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11-03-2010, 12:13 PM
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Increase in Cap?

Buccigorss at ESPN is speculating that the cap may increase anywhere from 3.5 to 4 million next season due to the new television contract.

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First of all, NHL revenues should slightly go up next season if the economy continues to improve. More importantly, a new U.S. television deal should be struck early next year. If the additional television revenue is pumped directly into the salary-cap number, the salary cap is expected to rise by at least $3.5-$4.5 million, since the new television deal should increase by at least $100 million a season. This will help give teams like the Devils some salary-cap solace.
http://espn.go.com/nhl/notebook/_/pa...course-staches

Thoughts on where the Rangers may spend their money?

Right now they would have about 17.1 million in cap space going into next season with the following players under contract:

_______-Christensen-Gaborik
_______-_________-________
Avery-Stepan-Drury
Prust-______-Boogaard

Staal-Girardi
MDZ-Rozsival
_____-______

Hank
Biron


RFA's:
Dubinsky
Callahan
Anisimov
Kennedy
Gilroy
Sauer
Boyle

http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=22

If the cap increases by 3.5 million, they will have over 20 million dollars to spend going into next season before they re-sign their RFA's. I would guess that those players will not collectively make 20+ million dollars AND if Rozsival is moved in the offseason you can add 5 million to that number.

Lots to think about IF this report is true.


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11-03-2010, 12:17 PM
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if true that would be great for us. that increase would possibly cover the raises we have to give to dubinsky, callahan and anisimov and then leave the rest of the cap space to fill out the rest of the team.

and you are missing drury who still has 1 year left on his deal

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11-03-2010, 12:21 PM
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David Backes fits the identity this team is developing. Save some money for him.

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Buccigorss at ESPN is speculating that the cap may increase anywhere from 3.5 to 4 million next season due to the new television contract.



http://espn.go.com/nhl/notebook/_/pa...course-staches

Thoughts on where the Rangers may spend their money?

Right now they would have about 17.1 million in cap space going into next season with the following players under contract:

_______-Christensen-Gaborik
_______-_________-________
Avery-Stepan-Grachev
Prust-______-Boogaard

Staal-Girardi
MDZ-Rozsival
_____-______

Hank
Biron


RFA's:
Dubinsky
Callahan
Anisimov
Kennedy
Gilroy
Sauer
Boyle

http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=22

If the cap increases by 3.5 million, they will have over 20 million dollars to spend going into next season before they re-sign their RFA's. I would guess that those players will not collectively make 20+ million dollars AND if Rozsival is moved in the offseason you can add 5 million to that number.

Lots to think about IF this report is true.
They need to decide how many years of UFA they want to pay for now with Callahan and Dubinksy.

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11-03-2010, 12:31 PM
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David Backes fits the identity this team is developing. Save some money for him.
Doubt he would be available, but if he is - by all means PLEASE.

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11-03-2010, 12:35 PM
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Lock em up, lock em up, lock em up.

Let Gilroy go and keep Sauer. re-sign the pack line.

???-EC/Stepan-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Avery-Drury-???
Boogaard-Boyle-Prust

Staal-Rozsival
Del Zotto-Girardi
Mcd/Vtank-Sauer

That leaves us with a hole at LW, and one at RW. If Dubinsky and Callahan both get, say, 4 mil, and Anisimov gets 2 mil, then thats 10 mil for line 2. Somebody needs to do the numbers for what that leaves us because my hands are full.

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11-03-2010, 12:41 PM
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Tier I - Dubi, Cally and AA get re-signed.

Tier II - Boyle and Sauer brought back.

Bye, Gilroy!

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The math relied upon by the article is faulty. First off, the salary cap for next year will be based upon this year's revenue. The NHL won't be paid under the new TV contract until next season, as the current deal remains in place for this season. Thus, that contract won't affect next year's cap, but the cap two year from now. The only exception to this would be if the contract is structured in a way that the NHL receives some payment under the contract this year, but that seems unlikely.

Furthermore, even if the contract is worth $100m more than the current deal (per year), the players do not get 100% of that sum. Currently, they get 57% (iirc, it varies between 54% and 57% under the CBA). Thus, instead of splitting $100m by 30 teams ($3.3m salary cap increase), the increase from that TV deal would only be $1.9m).

The salary cap could go up that much next year, but if it does, it's because of an improving economy, not the new TV deal.

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David Backes fits the identity this team is developing. Save some money for him.
Overrated, if you ask me. Besides, where does he fit in the lineup? He's a RW, so he's certainly not going to unseat Gaborik, and unless The Pack Line completely loses their chemistry, I don't think they're going to sub Backes in for Callahan.

Deal with the raises for the core players and let that be the end of it.

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11-03-2010, 12:45 PM
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Overrated, if you ask me. Besides, where does he fit in the lineup? He's a RW, so he's certainly not going to unseat Gaborik, and unless The Pack Line completely loses their chemistry, I don't think they're going to sub Backes in for Callahan.

Deal with the raises for the core players and let that be the end of it.
3rd line RW, perhaps. Gaborik, Callahan, Backes would be great down the right side.

Depends on the asking price.

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3rd line RW, perhaps. Gaborik, Callahan, Backes would be great down the right side.

Depends on the asking price.
By most accounts, if the Blues let him go, it will be because he's asking for too much money. North of $4MM for a guy to play on the 3rd line? No thanks.

Now, if he could play on the first line LW with Gaborik, that might be something I'd consider. That's the kind of "protection" we could use. However, the team needs to be careful to leave room for guys like Kreider, Grachev, and MZA. At least potentially.

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11-03-2010, 12:51 PM
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Semin (6 mil)- Stepan (800k) Gaborik (7.5 mil)
Dubinsky (4)- Anisimov (2)- Callahan (3.75)
Avery (1.9)- Drury (7)- Backes (3.5)
Boogaard (1.65)- Boyle (1)- Prust (800k)

Staal (4) Rozsival (5)
Del Zotto (1) Girardi (3.3)
Vtank (1) Sauer (1)

Lundqvist-Biron (7.5 total)

these are approximations. Put us at like 63 million for a 20 man roster. Higly unlikley but there it is.

Guy is likely to have his second meh season in a row, I cant believe hed get north of 4 mil.

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FORWARDS
XX UFA/trade / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($3.800m) / Artem Anisimov ($2.200m) / Ryan Callahan ($3.600m)
Chris Kreider ($2.500m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Evgeny Grachev ($0.816m)
Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Brian Boyle ($1.000m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)
Derek Boogaard ($1.625m), MZA/Weiss/Hagelin/vet

DEFENSEMEN
Michal Rozsival ($5.000m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
Daniel Girardi ($3.325m) / Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m)
XXX UFA/trade / Ryan McDonagh/Valentenko ($1.300m)
Michael Sauer ($0.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) /Martin Biron ($0.875m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $63,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,891,667; BONUSES: $1,650,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $8,158,333

2 positions to fill. Very interesting....

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11-03-2010, 12:56 PM
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Of course we could always re-sign Kennedy for a potential cheap 3rd line player, and let kids fight it out with him for a spot.

We do have the finances, potentially to go after Alex Semin, even re-signing the 2nd line if the cap goes way up. But so will everyone else and it might price gouge the market.

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Of course we could always re-sign Kennedy for a potential cheap 3rd line player, and let kids fight it out with him for a spot.

We do have the finances, potentially to go after Alex Semin, even re-signing the 2nd line if the cap goes way up. But so will everyone else and it might price gouge the market.
I really can't see a reason why Kennedy would want to re-sign here.

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I really can't see a reason why Kennedy would want to re-sign here.
I can't either. I think we own his rights as an RFA though, which was what caused me to bring it up as a possibility.

Kind of sucks that we never really gave him a chance.

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Buccigorss at ESPN is speculating that the cap may increase anywhere from 3.5 to 4 million next season due to the new television contract.



http://espn.go.com/nhl/notebook/_/pa...course-staches

Thoughts on where the Rangers may spend their money?

Right now they would have about 17.1 million in cap space going into next season with the following players under contract:

_______-Christensen-Gaborik
_______-_________-________
Avery-Stepan-Grachev
Prust-______-Boogaard

Staal-Girardi
MDZ-Rozsival
_____-______

Hank
Biron


RFA's:
Dubinsky
Callahan
Anisimov
Kennedy
Gilroy
Sauer
Boyle

http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=22

If the cap increases by 3.5 million, they will have over 20 million dollars to spend going into next season before they re-sign their RFA's. I would guess that those players will not collectively make 20+ million dollars AND if Rozsival is moved in the offseason you can add 5 million to that number.

Lots to think about IF this report is true.
You forgot Drury in your lineup.

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11-03-2010, 01:04 PM
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3rd line RW, perhaps. Gaborik, Callahan, Backes would be great down the right side.

Depends on the asking price.
4~5M, which is absurd for a third-line role. Unless he, or Gabs, or Cally can play on the left side it doesn't make sense.

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Overrated, if you ask me. Besides, where does he fit in the lineup? He's a RW, so he's certainly not going to unseat Gaborik, and unless The Pack Line completely loses their chemistry, I don't think they're going to sub Backes in for Callahan.

Deal with the raises for the core players and let that be the end of it.
My understanding is that Backes plays C more than RW.

So, playing him with Gaborik on the top line is probably a cheaper option than signing a guy like Richards.

Additionally, he will be four full years younger than Richards.

There's no debating that Richards is the better player, but as a UFA he's going to want buku dollars at more years than I want to extend for a 31 year old player. We did that with Drury and we are regretting it.

However, if we can find a home for one of (if not both) Rozy and/or Drury, we can attempt to get both Backes AND Richards and still have some scratch to get that defenceman we are missing.

Gone would be Drury, Rozy, Prospal, Frolov, EC, Gilroy, Eminger

coming in would be Richards, Backes, McDonagh, Grachev, MZA, Valentenko

major upgrade in terms of toughness and talent.

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I am not a rangers fan but I'll bet my bottom dollar that if he hits UFA Sather will go HARD after Brad richards

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Overrated, if you ask me. Besides, where does he fit in the lineup? He's a RW, so he's certainly not going to unseat Gaborik, and unless The Pack Line completely loses their chemistry, I don't think they're going to sub Backes in for Callahan.

Deal with the raises for the core players and let that be the end of it.
He can play center, has played some LW at the olympics, and obviously plays RW.

Backes-Stepan-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan

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No to Semin.....

Anyone have a list of the projected UFA defensemen? While Rozsival has been a lot better this season, I don't see him as part of the Rangers future core of players with only 1 year remaining on his contract... Would love to move him if we could find a good veteran replacement....

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He can play center, has played some LW at the olympics, and obviously plays RW.

Backes-Stepan-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Stepan doesn't appear to be anywhere close to ready for 1st line duty. Not really a knock on his skillset but a factor of his inexperience.

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Stepan doesn't appear to be anywhere close to ready for 1st line duty. Not really a knock on his skillset but a factor of his inexperience.
I'm with you on that, but I want to see more minutes whether it's up on the 1st line between Gabby this season or in Hartford before I say we search for a 1c next season.

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No to signing anybody until Sather re-signs Anisimov, Dubinsky, & Callahan, if the cap does go up that much.

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