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11-02-2010, 10:20 PM
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Parise is out for three months. lol. Combine that with Gaborik, Okposo, Streit, and Staal being out for the rest of our division, we're getting pretty lucky when it comes to injuries.
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Parise is out for three months. lol. Combine that with Gaborik, Okposo, Streit, and Staal being out for the rest of our division, we're getting pretty lucky when it comes to injuries.
Yeah but think of Walker and Leighton!

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Do not bring that war to our doorsteps please. No more injuries.
Agreed. I confess to a small panic when Bob was run over last game. Once he got up, I knew his ACL and MCL were ok.

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Checking the standings for the first time in a long time and it seems like the standings are a little out-of-whack due to a discrepancy in games played.

For instance, Montreal is in third place and Boston is in 7th...but Montreal's record is 7-4-1 with 12 GP while Boston's is 6-2-0 with 8 GP. I'd be very surprised if Boston didn't rocket up the standings once they catch up in GP. Boston also has the best goal differential out of the whole league at +13. So don't be surprised if Boston takes the division relatively soon.

Phoenix is 3-4-3 with a -6 goal differential. This is surprising to me. Didn't realize they were off to such a bad start. If it weren't for the loser point they'd be buried right now.

NJ is mind-blowingly bad. Most GP in the league at 13 and are running away with the worst goal differential in the league (-22 currently). Even despite leading the league in GP, they have back-to-back games tonight and tomorrow. Their schedule is also really tough for the first couple months.

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11-03-2010, 12:26 PM
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NJ also hasn't won at home yet. All three wins are on the road. The only other team that hasn't won at home yet is Buffalo.

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11-03-2010, 12:35 PM
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Well, standings are decided by points earned, not points possibly earned in the future. The standings aren't really out of whack, there is just a difference in games played that must be taken into consideration when looking at them.

Also, yesterday I've been calculating the average goal differential in any given game for each team. Boston's is about +1.68, which is ridiculous when for most teams it hovers somewhere around +/- 0.50. It also expresses how bad New Jersey is. They are at about -1.72. They are coming close to losing every game by 2 goals on average.

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NJ is mind-blowingly bad. Most GP in the league at 13 and are running away with the worst goal differential in the league (-22 currently). Even despite leading the league in GP, they have back-to-back games tonight and tomorrow. Their schedule is also really tough for the first couple months.
NJ plays tonight against Chicago(who also has played a lot, I think this will be their 15th game), NJ has the Rangers on Friday at home

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Also, yesterday I've been calculating the average goal differential in any given game for each team. Boston's is about +1.68, which is ridiculous when for most teams it hovers somewhere around +/- 0.50. It also expresses how bad New Jersey is. They are at about -1.72. They are coming close to losing every game by 2 goals on average.
thats what happens when you have 4 shutouts already this year

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11-03-2010, 12:46 PM
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Well, here are the current NHL pacings:

Atlantic:
Flyers - 102.5
Rangers - 96.9
Penguins - 88.8
Islanders - 74.5
Devils - 44.2

Northeast:
Bruins - 123.0
Canadiens - 102.5
Maple Leafs - 82.0
Senators - 75.2
Sabres - 54.7

Southeast:
Lightning - 123.0
Capitals - 104.4
Thrashers - 89.5
Hurricanes - 74.5
Panthers - 72.9

Central:
Blues - 127.6
Red Wings - 118.4
Predators - 106.6
Blue Jackets - 104.4
Blackhawks - 87.9

Northwest:
Canucks - 104.4
Avalanche - 96.9
Wild - 89.5
Flames - 89.5
Oilers - 65.6

Pacific:
Kings - 119.3
Stars - 98.4
Sharks - 90.2
Coyotes - 73.8
Ducks - 61.5

Conferences (In playoff seeds)
Eastern Conference
1. Bruins - 123.0
2. Lightning - 123.0
3. Flyers - 102.5
4. Capitals - 104.4
5. Canadiens - 102.5
6. Rangers - 96.9
7. Thrashers - 89.5
8. Penguins - 88.8
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9. Maple Leafs - 82.0
10. Senators - 75.2
11. Hurricanes - 74.5
12. Islanders - 74.5
13. Panthers - 72.9
14. Sabres - 54.7
15. Devils - 44.2

Western Conference
1. Blues - 127.6
2. Kings - 119.3
3. Canucks - 104.4
4. Red Wings - 118.4
5. Predators - 106.6
6. Blue Jackets - 104.4
7. Stars - 98.4
8. Avalanche - 96.9
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9. Sharks - 90.2
10. Wild - 89.5
11. Flames - 89.5
12. Blackhawks - 87.9
13. Coyotes - 73.8
14. Oilers - 65.6
15. Ducks - 61.5

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11-03-2010, 12:51 PM
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Well, standings are decided by points earned, not points possibly earned in the future. The standings aren't really out of whack, there is just a difference in games played that must be taken into consideration when looking at them.

Also, yesterday I've been calculating the average goal differential in any given game for each team. Boston's is about +1.68, which is ridiculous when for most teams it hovers somewhere around +/- 0.50. It also expresses how bad New Jersey is. They are at about -1.72. They are coming close to losing every game by 2 goals on average.
That just seems like semantics to me. That's what I meant by "out of whack". The discrepancy in games played is hiding the true order of how well the teams have been doing. Sure, you have to win the games first, but if you had to bet money on Boston winning three out of eight points in their next four games to catch up to Montreal, wouldn't you bet that they would?

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NJ plays tonight against Chicago(who also has played a lot, I think this will be their 15th game), NJ has the Rangers on Friday at home
You're right, NJ isn't leading the league in GP. Chicago is.

Still, that's another point I forgot to make. People expected Chicago to be a contender going into this season just because they won the Cup last year. Ignoring the fact that I didn't and don't think they're a contender, Chicago's record is actually kind of bad and the only reason they're up to second in their conference is due to GP.

Chicago is 7-6-1. So they're .500 in terms of wins and losses. Detroit has five less games played and is only two points behind. Nashville has four less games played and is only two points behind.

So, yeah, expect Chicago and possibly Montreal to lose their spots relatively soon.

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11-03-2010, 12:54 PM
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Well, here are the current NHL pacings:

Atlantic:
Flyers - 102.5
Rangers - 96.9
Penguins - 88.8
Islanders - 74.5
Devils - 44.2

Northeast:
Bruins - 123.0
Canadiens - 102.5
Maple Leafs - 82.0
Senators - 75.2
Sabres - 54.7

Southeast:
Lightning - 123.0
Capitals - 104.4
Thrashers - 89.5
Hurricanes - 74.5
Panthers - 72.9

Central:
Blues - 127.6
Red Wings - 118.4
Predators - 106.6
Blue Jackets - 104.4
Blackhawks - 87.9

Northwest:
Canucks - 104.4
Avalanche - 96.9
Wild - 89.5
Flames - 89.5
Oilers - 65.6

Pacific:
Kings - 119.3
Stars - 98.4
Sharks - 90.2
Coyotes - 73.8
Ducks - 61.5

Conferences (In playoff seeds)
Eastern Conference
1. Bruins - 123.0
2. Lightning - 123.0
3. Flyers - 102.5
4. Capitals - 104.4
5. Canadiens - 102.5
6. Rangers - 96.9
7. Thrashers - 89.5
8. Penguins - 88.8
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9. Maple Leafs - 82.0
10. Senators - 75.2
11. Hurricanes - 74.5
12. Islanders - 74.5
13. Panthers - 72.9
14. Sabres - 54.7
15. Devils - 44.2

Western Conference
1. Blues - 127.6
2. Kings - 119.3
3. Canucks - 104.4
4. Red Wings - 118.4
5. Predators - 106.6
6. Blue Jackets - 104.4
7. Stars - 98.4
8. Avalanche - 96.9
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9. Sharks - 90.2
10. Wild - 89.5
11. Flames - 89.5
12. Blackhawks - 87.9
13. Coyotes - 73.8
14. Oilers - 65.6
15. Ducks - 61.5
Thanks. I always find the on-pace records to be more accurate.

Case-in-point, Chicago is currently second in the conference and second league-wide in points yet they're on pace to finish last in their division and probably miss the playoffs.

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11-03-2010, 12:59 PM
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Garbage, what I was trying to say is that there isn't anything wrong with the standings, there is only something wrong with a superficial reading of them.

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Well, here are the current NHL pacings:

Atlantic:
Flyers - 102.5
Rangers - 96.9
Penguins - 88.8
Islanders - 74.5
Devils - 44.2

Northeast:
Bruins - 123.0
Canadiens - 102.5
Maple Leafs - 82.0
Senators - 75.2
Sabres - 54.7

Southeast:
Lightning - 123.0
Capitals - 104.4
Thrashers - 89.5
Hurricanes - 74.5
Panthers - 72.9

Central:
Blues - 127.6
Red Wings - 118.4
Predators - 106.6
Blue Jackets - 104.4
Blackhawks - 87.9

Northwest:
Canucks - 104.4
Avalanche - 96.9
Wild - 89.5
Flames - 89.5
Oilers - 65.6

Pacific:
Kings - 119.3
Stars - 98.4
Sharks - 90.2
Coyotes - 73.8
Ducks - 61.5

Conferences (In playoff seeds)
Eastern Conference
1. Bruins - 123.0
2. Lightning - 123.0
3. Flyers - 102.5
4. Capitals - 104.4
5. Canadiens - 102.5
6. Rangers - 96.9
7. Thrashers - 89.5
8. Penguins - 88.8
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9. Maple Leafs - 82.0
10. Senators - 75.2
11. Hurricanes - 74.5
12. Islanders - 74.5
13. Panthers - 72.9
14. Sabres - 54.7
15. Devils - 44.2

Western Conference
1. Blues - 127.6
2. Kings - 119.3
3. Canucks - 104.4
4. Red Wings - 118.4
5. Predators - 106.6
6. Blue Jackets - 104.4
7. Stars - 98.4
8. Avalanche - 96.9
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9. Sharks - 90.2
10. Wild - 89.5
11. Flames - 89.5
12. Blackhawks - 87.9
13. Coyotes - 73.8
14. Oilers - 65.6
15. Ducks - 61.5
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Garbage, what I was trying to say is that there isn't anything wrong with the standings, there is only something wrong with a superficial reading of them.
Well, yeah, that's my point too. If you look around people love to discuss how bad Anaheim or NJ or Calgary are, but for what I assume to be superficial reasons, people look at the standings and either don't realize or don't care to comment on how bad Chicago, San Jose, Pittsburgh etc. have been or how good Columbus (have a 7-4 record), Detroit, Nashville, and Boston are.

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Well, yeah, that's my point too. If you look around people love to discuss how bad Anaheim or NJ or Calgary are, but for what I assume to be superficial reasons, people look at the standings and either don't realize or don't care to comment on how bad Chicago, San Jose, Pittsburgh etc. have been or how good Columbus (have a 7-4 record), Detroit, Nashville, and Boston are.
The Flyers looked worse than they were last October because they had quite a few less games played than their division rivals. This year, they played the same number of games - with the same record - but because Pittsburgh and NJ struggled, the Flyers look better in the standings. Of course, the two points gained on Monday night help!

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Miller won't play tonight. I think the Sabres are screwed against Boston. Am I glad we don't play the Bruins for almost another month. Hopefully Thomas cools down until then.

Edit: Clarkie is going to be on the TSN Panel tonight.


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Miller won't play tonight. I think the Sabres are screwed against Boston. Am I glad we don't play the Bruins for almost another month. Hopefully Thomas cools down until then.

Edit: Clarkie is going to be on the TSN Panel tonight.
the sabres arent screwed, they're ****ed.

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Raffi Torres' hattrick, and his return north of the border has made this clip relevant again:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tu...eedom---canada

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I'm happy for him but I'm not going to miss him...unless of course he becomes a Flyer killer.

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I'm happy for him but I'm not going to miss him...unless of course he becomes a Flyer killer.
Most ex-Flyers are Flyer killers .

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You're right.

There's a Caps fan at the game tonight wearing a jersey with the number 8 and the last name as "The Great". So corny...

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You're right.

There's a Caps fan at the game tonight wearing a jersey with the number 8 and the last name as "The Great". So corny...
i spent the offseason researching great players of the past. compared to people who have come before, crosby and ovechkin really arent all that grand it seems.

but i guess theyre the best we've got now.

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Meh, matasumoto mever would have succeeded here. Too soft and weak defensively. ( I know Briere is too, but proven nhl player is not the same as an ahl scorer)


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