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View Poll Results: Which Choice Do you make?
Sign Giroux/Leino to contracts, trade Carter? 27 32.93%
Sign Giroux, and lock Carter into a Richards type deal? 25 30.49%
Sign Carter/Leino and trade Giroux? 0 0%
Move a Dman and sign all three including NTC/NMC's? 30 36.59%
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11-03-2010, 02:12 PM
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sign Giroux 2.75 over 3-4 years
sign Leino to 1.75 over 3-4 years
sign Carter to 5.75 over 5 years

total of 10.25 out of 11.95 next season

sign Torres

Let Z walk

Waive/Trade Walker
Waive/Trade Shelley

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11-03-2010, 02:12 PM
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Trade Carle, sign all 3

Not to mention waive Shelley, Waive Leighton, Waive Walker

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11-03-2010, 02:15 PM
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Trade Carle, sign all 3

Not to mention waive Shelley, Waive Leighton, Waive Walker
You are a wise man.

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11-03-2010, 02:26 PM
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sign Giroux 2.75 over 3-4 years
sign Leino to 1.75 over 3-4 years
sign Carter to 5.75 over 5 years

total of 10.25 out of 11.95 next season

sign Torres

Let Z walk

Waive/Trade Walker
Waive/Trade Shelley
I don't think any of those 3 signings are possible, let alone all 3.

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11-03-2010, 02:26 PM
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sign Giroux 2.75 over 3-4 years
sign Leino to 1.75 over 3-4 years
sign Carter to 5.75 over 5 years

total of 10.25 out of 11.95 next season

sign Torres

Let Z walk

Waive/Trade Walker
Waive/Trade Shelley
Yeah, I'm (probably overly) optimistic about our ability to resign our guys... but you won't get Leino and Giroux at that price for four years. I'd be very surprised at least.

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11-03-2010, 02:47 PM
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Waive Walker.
Waive Shelley.
Waive Leighton. (depending on his play, could be a good backup to Bob)

Trade Carle if necessary.

Sign all 3 of them. (Carter @5.75, Giroux @ 3.25 or 4.5 longer term, Leino @ 2)

Giroux-Richards-JvR
Leino-Briere-Hartnell
Powe-Carter-Wellwood
Carcillo-Betts-Nodl

Pronger-Meszaros
Timonen-Coburn
Bartulis-???

Bobrovsky
Leighton/xxxx

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11-03-2010, 02:50 PM
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11-03-2010, 02:53 PM
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I'll be on board with the moving of Carle and signing all 3 with the waivers of the dead wood.

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11-03-2010, 03:04 PM
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Why does the 4th option have to include NTCs/NMCs?

I'd move a defenseman and try to sign all three forwards without no trade/no movement clauses.
Because Cartsiephan wants to make no choice sound appealing.

How about option 4:

1. Sign Carter to a Richards-esque deal.
2. Give Giroux his damn money.
3. Keep Leino under 3.50m.
4. Waive Leighton and Walker.
5. Stay cap compliant, but if absolutely necessary, though it shouldn't be, trade Carle while letting Gustafsson, Lehtivuori, and Bartulis battle for NHL positions in Carle's spot with Pronger, as the 6th, and as the 7th.

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11-03-2010, 03:08 PM
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I think the best solution would be to trade Briere and keep the Leino Carter and Giroux. Also though he still has plenty left in the tank, the consideration of trading Timonen is something worth considering. Carle looked capable playing without Pronger, I'm not sure how good Coburn would look w/out Timonen though.
While I agree with this in theory the problem is if you are going to move a guy it should be to get the most value in return to help replenish the farm system or boost the roster in positions of need. Both Timonen and Briere have NMC's which make the ability to get the most return limited.

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11-03-2010, 03:14 PM
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Waive Walker.
Waive Shelley.
Waive Leighton. (depending on his play, could be a good backup to Bob)

Trade Carle if necessary.

Sign all 3 of them. (Carter @5.75, Giroux @ 3.25 or 4.5 longer term, Leino @ 2)

Giroux-Richards-JvR
Leino-Briere-Hartnell
Powe-Carter-Wellwood
Carcillo-Betts-Nodl

Pronger-Meszaros
Timonen-Coburn
Bartulis-???

Bobrovsky
Leighton/xxxx

Not trying to be a negative nancy here but Giroux has shown he needs to be at center and I think the coach agrees which is why Carter has been playing his wing and not at center prior to the Briere debacle.

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11-03-2010, 03:25 PM
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Not trying to be a negative nancy here but Giroux has shown he needs to be at center and I think the coach agrees which is why Carter has been playing his wing and not at center prior to the Briere debacle.
So, we should trade Carter right? ASAP?

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11-03-2010, 03:27 PM
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Giroux long deal is priority number one, I would have been trying to lock him down before the season started to be honest.

If Carter will take a deal that pays him roughly what he makes now (let's say it bumps to $5.5M a year) and can massage the cap number down a bit with some good ol' league-sanctioned circumvention, great, he comes back for sure.

Leino, hard to say, I mean how much is he going to want? I would not break the bank for him.

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11-03-2010, 03:28 PM
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So, we should trade Carter right? ASAP?
Nope, you retain Carter for the season so long as he is willing to play wing, then sign Carter to a $144million/12yr deal with a NMC.

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11-03-2010, 03:29 PM
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Went with the last option. So obvious that this is what needs to be done next summer. It will be so easy to trade one of Coburn , Carle or Mesz and replace them with Bart.
Why give NTC and NMC? I guess someone was trying to be sarcastic.

Waive Leighton and Walker.. Over 3M right there. Can you believe it?


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11-03-2010, 03:35 PM
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Sign all 3 (Carter no more then 5-6 Million) & dump Kimmo Timonen and his hefty salary while we can.

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Not trying to be a negative nancy here but Giroux has shown he needs to be at center and I think the coach agrees which is why Carter has been playing his wing and not at center prior to the Briere debacle.
Giroux has been awesome so far this year, but he was also great playing wing on that line with JvR and Richie the few games they had last year. He's also playing spectacularly well with Richards on the PK. It's not such an absurd idea to want to see them together on even strength as well.

Versatility is a good thing, you know. I'm thrilled that Carter finally seems to settle in somewhat at wing. That gives us four top class forwards who can play both center and wing. That's a great thing to have for a coach.

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While I agree with this in theory the problem is if you are going to move a guy it should be to get the most value in return to help replenish the farm system or boost the roster in positions of need. Both Timonen and Briere have NMC's which make the ability to get the most return limited.
My counter to that argument is you have a much smaller hole to fill trading Briere then you do trading Carter. Shaving off the defense certainly makes sense also, because you can't overlook Briere's playoff production.

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Sign all 3 (Carter no more then 5-6 Million) & dump Kimmo Timonen and his hefty salary while we can.
Don't forget Pronger, he's old as hell. I still think we can get a 2nd rounder for him. At least from some of the dumber GM's.

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Giroux has been awesome so far this year, but he was also great playing wing on that line with JvR and Richie the few games they had last year. He's also playing spectacularly well with Richards on the PK. It's not such an absurd idea to want to see them together on even strength as well.

Versatility is a good thing, you know. I'm thrilled that Carter finally seems to settle in somewhat at wing. That gives us four top class forwards who can play both center and wing. That's a great thing to have for a coach.
Giroux also has 6 points through 12 games at ES... good, but not exactly dominant.

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Trade Carle and sign all 3.

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Sign all 3 (Carter no more then 5-6 Million) & dump Kimmo Timonen and his hefty salary while we can.
Why stop at Timonen? Trade Pronger and that albatross of a contract Mike Richards' has, too. Perhaps also look into trading that worthless and unclutch waste of cap space known as Briere.

but keep Shelley, Leighton, and Carcillo though. We need those guys is we want to contend.

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If I were the Flyers GM I would trade Zherdev and Meszaros for a decent goalie, plus I would give a shot to get back Gagne.


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Hmmm. Let me work this out first:

If I'm GM. To start the season I'd have

Briere
Richards
Hartnell
JVR
Betts


Timonen
Pronger
Mezaros
Carle
Coburn
Bartulis

Bobrovsky
Leighton

all coming back and signed.

After bonuses that total is $44.6 mil

Nodl and Powe will get around $1.8 combined

New subtotal is $46.4

We now need 6 forwards and 1 D.

Lets say the other 3 forwards and the other d (for arguments sake) are Wellwood, Homlstrom, Testwuide and Gustafsson. They take $3.13 million for the 4. Even if it is cheapy camp walkon guy the number should be about right.

New subtotal is $49.53


Assuming a $60 million cap we'd have $10.5 to spend on the 3.


So yeah, I guess based on that it wouldn't be doable. I can't see the 3 fitting onto $10.


I guess then I vote that Carter goes but it better be one heck of a trade. We can't Gagne him out of here and we all know what going to thin on the blue line did to us.

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Giroux also has 6 points through 12 games at ES... good, but not exactly dominant.
True. Joe Thornton* also has 6 ES points.

Another one on that list is Jordan Leopold... so... it's a bit early in the season to draw any conclusions obviously.







*Thornton's only played 10 games though.

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I went with Giroux/Carter with Richie contract.

Unless, of course....we can move Walker...

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