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11-03-2010, 02:22 PM
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Premier resigns.

Without getting too political here, I'll give Campbell credit for having the self awareness and integrity to recognize when his own ambition to continue as Premier was at odds with his party's and the province's best interests. Too many leaders hang around too long (Vanderzalm) and wreck their party in the process.

But perhaps a lack of ego (or personal charisma) has been his issue all along? He has never been personally very popular, nor has he been very good at the whole vision / communication thing. But he is the first BC Premier since Bill Bennett to leave office without being forced out by fraud or scandal (Bennett's involvement in the Doman scandal came to light 2 years after he left office).

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11-03-2010, 02:23 PM
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Without getting too political I will say that this is a glorious day and the sun is shining.

But it is a horrible, horrible day for ugly sweaters.

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Before you give him too much credit, consider the rumours that his cabinet was about to ask him to step down...

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I just hope he's careful if he choses to celebrate his retirement with a celebratory drink or two. That new .05 limit is a killer.

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Before you give him too much credit, consider the rumours that his cabinet was about to ask him to step down...
Pretty much; no point in taking the entire party down with him. Last thing we need is another NDP fiasco. The provincial leadership prospect pool is pretty damn dry though, no real incumbent in the wings for either party.

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Before you give him too much credit, consider the rumours that his cabinet was about to ask him to step down...
Cabinet can ask the Premier to step down, but the Premier can replace the entire cabinet at his pleasure. I don't know the specifics of the BC Liberal Party constitution, but, generally, to replace a party leader without his consent would require a very public, organized and very damaging campaign.

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Gordon Campbell's ego swelled about hearing how someone thinks he doesn't have an ego.


So I guess it's Carol James turn now.





I expect to see her resign shortly.

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So what happens now? Do we have another vote or do the Liberal party just appoint somebody?

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Cabinet can ask the Premier to step down, but the Premier can replace the entire cabinet at his pleasure. I don't know the specifics of the BC Liberal Party constitution, but, generally, to replace a party leader without his consent would require a very public, organized and very damaging campaign.
Sure, but I'm saying it didn't take much self-awareness or integrity this far in. He essentially was forced out, and it was his ego that made him make the move before the public shaming of his cabinet calling him out.

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Gordon Campbell's ego swelled about hearing how someone thinks he doesn't have an ego.


So I guess it's Carol James turn now.





I expect to see her resign shortly
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I am an ardent supporter of the NDP and I can't wait for her to step down. I don't know anyone, outside of her hardcore NDP supporters, who has any faith in James.

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This immedietely brought to mind one question in my mind:

How will this impact the HST.

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Campbell was a fantastic premier. Hopefully the Liberals choose another good leader to stop the NDP from gaining ground.

btw, this is gonna get moved to the politics board soon.

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This immedietely brought to mind one question in my mind:

How will this impact the HST.
Probably ditched by the new leader to try to stop the bleeding before the election. I can't see anybody running a successful leadership campaign with a "keep the HST" platform.

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i think we are stuck with the hst regardless.

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I believe GC's approval rating was pegged at 9% recently. That isn't even an above average shooting percentage, let alone approval rating.

(Keep things topical to hockey)

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Gordon Campbell's sweater collection rivals the Canucks' in terms of barfiness.

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Goofy mittens stock just upticked on the NYSE.

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I wonder who the Liberal party will draft next. Some great options are available at their position.

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If the Liberals want to win the next election, they are best off seeking a candidate known as someone willing to sit and make tough compromises with different sectors of society.

People like Falcon or Coleman would put another nail in the Liberal coffin.

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He resigned one day before his caucus was going to tell him to go.

Translation: he was forced out.

It will be interesting to see who they replace him with. His inner circle is tainted; they will get slaughtered.

If they go to an outsider, maybe someone like Diane Watts or Carole Taylor, they could have a fighting chance. It's not like Carole James is going to be that much of a challenge in the next election; her party is almost as divided as the Liberals are.

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Cabinet can ask the Premier to step down, but the Premier can replace the entire cabinet at his pleasure. I don't know the specifics of the BC Liberal Party constitution, but, generally, to replace a party leader without his consent would require a very public, organized and very damaging campaign.
Like the one going on right now?

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Like the one going on right now?
Could be much, much, much worse. Remember Chretien/Martin?

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If the Liberals want to win the next election, they are best off seeking a candidate known as someone willing to sit and make tough compromises with different sectors of society.

People like Falcon or Coleman would put another nail in the Liberal coffin.
My feeling exactly.

Carole Taylor would be a godsend, but she just took a three-year appointment as SFU's Chancellor, Dianne Watts I think has time and if she's to be believed, she wants to finish what she's doing in Surrey.

Colin Hansen is unfortunately tainted by the HST and rumour is he wasn't interested in the big job anyway, but he's got a good temperment, George Abbott has the reputation of working well with stakeholder groups and was Canada's longest serving Health Minister in recent years (not an easy portfolio), but he'll probably need to raise his profile. How he handles Education may boost his chances.

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