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View Poll Results: Which Choice Do you make?
Sign Giroux/Leino to contracts, trade Carter? 27 32.93%
Sign Giroux, and lock Carter into a Richards type deal? 25 30.49%
Sign Carter/Leino and trade Giroux? 0 0%
Move a Dman and sign all three including NTC/NMC's? 30 36.59%
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11-03-2010, 05:14 PM
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Really? No option to just sign Giroux and Carter to normal contracts?

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11-03-2010, 05:18 PM
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Really? No option to just sign Giroux and Carter to normal contracts?
where's the fun in that?

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11-03-2010, 06:33 PM
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The idea of letting Carter walk because you can't fit him and Leino in is laughable. Sign Giroux, sign Carter assuming his demands are reasonable, bring back Leino if the price is right.

I'd consider moving a D-man, and while I'm a huge fan of Timonen I'd move him in the right situation (they get something back, not a salary dump, and he's willing to waive his NMC). This is contingent upon Meszaros playing like a top-4 D this year.

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11-03-2010, 06:38 PM
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True. Joe Thornton* also has 6 ES points.

Another one on that list is Jordan Leopold... so... it's a bit early in the season to draw any conclusions obviously.







*Thornton's only played 10 games though.
He's also minus at even strength, I believe. And I'm not trashing Giroux here, he's been strong... but all of this talk about how it's so clear that he should be a center. Yeah, don't see it. He's been effective as both a wing and a center.... and his high goal scoring thus far is built off the PK and PP.

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11-03-2010, 06:46 PM
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Sign all three and trade Carle waive Leighton and have a backup goalie for cheap, even if it's Boucher again, I guess.

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11-03-2010, 07:24 PM
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Sign all three and trade Carle waive Leighton and have a backup goalie for cheap, even if it's Boucher again, I guess.
If Bob plays a ton this year... we may have a serious cap problem next year.

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11-03-2010, 07:26 PM
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He has a 3 year deal doesnt he?

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11-03-2010, 07:28 PM
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where's the fun in that?
Judging by the moves he's made, HOlmgren probably does consider "fun" as one of the key elements of making a trade.

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11-03-2010, 07:31 PM
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Not voting because of cartsiephan's obvious baiting and flawed poll choices

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11-03-2010, 07:33 PM
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He has a 3 year deal doesnt he?
Expiring Contracts

2011
RFA - Giroux, Carter, Powe, Nodl, Carcillo, Kalinski, Legein, Klotz, Stewart, Laliberte, Clackson, (Maroon)
UFA - Zherdev, Leino, O'Donnell, Boucher, Moore

2012
RFA - vanRiemsdyk, Testwuide, Rowe, Bourdon, Lehtivuori, Marshall, Holmstrom
UFA - Laperriere, Betts, Carle, Coburn, Leighton, Backlund, Jancevski

2013
RFA - Wellwood, Bartulis, Bobrovsky, Gustafsson, Pither, Harper, Rinaldo, Hostetter*
UFA - Hartnell, Shelley, Timonen, Walker

2014
UFA - Meszaros

2015
UFA - Briere

2017
UFA - Pronger

2020
UFA - Richards

Bold = Important to re-sign
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Jester, I guess you are worried about Bobo's Bonuses right?

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11-03-2010, 08:32 PM
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Why does the 4th option have to include NTCs/NMCs?

I'd move a defenseman and try to sign all three forwards without no trade/no movement clauses.
I voted for that option more but would've preferred it without that part.

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11-03-2010, 09:58 PM
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If Bob plays a ton this year... we may have a serious cap problem next year.
He's at 1.75 until 2013.

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Sign Shelley to a 10 year 100 million extension, take that Kovalchuk.

all jokes aside though, The most viable option at this point in time would to trade a defenseman (or waive walker ) I hope we can lock Leino up for several years at this rate, the guy is a total work horse, he may be slow, but he brings it every shift and he's amazing fighting along the boards, which seems to be something we were lacking for several games from what I saw.

Although if the rumors are true about the salary cap going up, Holmgren may very well not need to make a trade at all (at which point he'd go off and **** it up.)


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11-03-2010, 11:03 PM
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hahahaha seems pretty split EXCEPT trading Giroux. Kid isn't going anywhere.



The question/thread should say "What would we do the the GM if we don't bring back Giroux?"

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11-03-2010, 11:53 PM
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Signing giroux is the first thing id do.

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11-03-2010, 11:55 PM
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hahahaha seems pretty split EXCEPT trading Giroux. Kid isn't going anywhere.



The question/thread should say "What would we do the the GM if we don't bring back Giroux?"
go to philadelphia, cut off his head, and **** down his throat.

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11-04-2010, 12:49 AM
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The question/thread should say "What would we do the the GM if we don't bring back Giroux?"
do this to homer for about a week straight:


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11-04-2010, 01:04 AM
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Sign Roo. Sign Leino. Sign Carter.

Waive Walker. Waive Leighton. Retain the services of his Booshness.

Do something with Shelley involving cement shoes and a tall bridge.

Wellwoodsy - Richardssy - JvRsy
Hartnellsy - Brieresy - Leinosy
Powesy - Cartsy - Roosy
Nodlsy - Bettsy - :not Shelley:

Prongersy - Carlesy
Coburnsy - Timonensy
Mezsy - Gustafsonsy
Bartulissy

Bobobobobobobobobrovskysy
The Mighty Booshsy

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11-04-2010, 01:18 AM
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what are the bonuses for Bobrovsky?
Havent made up my mind on the voting part yet. Not a fan of the choices.

Sign Carter 3 years/5.5 per.
Not sure yet if Giroux is worth over 3 million. I want him resigned obviously but I am a bit torn on the dollar amount right now.
Sign Leino 2 years 2.25 per.

trade Carle.
trade Boucher
let Zherdev walk back to the KHL.

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11-04-2010, 01:39 AM
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Meszaros can replace Carle and honestly, I think we should re-sign O'Donnell and bring up Gustafsson next season. Have Bartulis as our 6th/7th or trade him and bring up another farm system d-man. Sign Carter to 5.5M. Giroux to 5M (4M if he only gets at most 60 to 69 points). Leino to 3M. Let Boosh and Carcillo go. Re-sign Powe and Nodl as well to less than 1M contracts each. Waive Walker and Shelley. Keep Wellwood and Nodl up.

Wellwood-Richards-Giroux
Hartnell-Briere-Leino
JVR-Carter-Nodl
Powe-Betts-Lappy

Pronger-Meszaros
Timonen-Coburn
O'Donnell-Gustafsson/Bartulis
Gustafsson/Bartulis

Bobrovsky
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11-04-2010, 01:41 AM
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Meszaros can replace Carle and honestly, I think we should re-sign O'Donnell and bring up Gustafsson next season. Have Bartulis as our 6th/7th or trade him and bring up another farm system d-man. Sign Carter to 5.5M. Giroux to 5M (4M if he only gets at most 60 to 69 points). Leino to 3M. Let Boosh and Carcillo go. Re-sign Powe and Nodl as well to less than 1M contracts each. Waive Walker and Shelley. Keep Wellwood and Nodl up.

Wellwood-Richards-Giroux
Hartnell-Briere-Leino
JVR-Carter-Nodl
Powe-Betts-Lappy

Pronger-Meszaros
Timonen-Coburn
O'Donnell-Gustafsson/Bartulis
Gustafsson/Bartulis

Bobrovsky
Leighton
I'm not a fan of re-signing 40 year olds who are already way too slow.

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11-04-2010, 02:10 AM
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It was a toss up between 1 and 4 for me... although id like to see them do some other stuff, like get rid of shelley for starters.

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11-04-2010, 03:17 AM
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I'm not a fan of re-signing 40 year olds who are already way too slow.
I don't think he's that slow. Hell, I think he has more mobility than Walker or even what Hatcher and Rathje had.

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I don't think he's that slow. Hell, I think he has more mobility than Walker or even what Hatcher and Rathje had.
Aye. There was a moment against the Canes where one of our defensemen had to race one of their forwards back to the line for icing. All I could think was "Wow who is that? He's fast" It could've been anyone, because none of our defensemen are particularly swift, save Coburn and Timonen occasionally. Low and behold, it was O'Donnell. If anything, he's done an exceptional job hiding his age with this team thus far. I can appreciate that.

I'm hoping Homer suddenly becomes a genius with cap management and finds a way to keep all our boys, so I didn't vote. All of them deserve a spot on this team.

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