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11-04-2010, 12:29 PM
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Okay so how do we snag Byfuglien from the Thrashers?

There's your bomb from the point on the PP and increased physicality on the back-end and in front of Henke.
Would be perfect!

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11-04-2010, 01:50 PM
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Okay so how do we snag Byfuglien from the Thrashers?

There's your bomb from the point on the PP and increased physicality on the back-end and in front of Henke.
Now he's someone I'd want the Rangers to pick up. Love his attitude.

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Okay so how do we snag Byfuglien from the Thrashers?

There's your bomb from the point on the PP and increased physicality on the back-end and in front of Henke.
I'd love to get him. If he keeps this up, though, he'll command an upwards of 4 mil this summer. But I'd gladly give up a 1st or two to get the Big Man.

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11-04-2010, 02:00 PM
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I'd love to get him. If he keeps this up, though, he'll command an upwards of 4 mil this summer. But I'd gladly give up a 1st or two to get the Big Man.
No way. Think about the Rangers past 1st rounders. Woudl you give up MDZ + Staal? Kreider + MDZ? Hell, would you give up Staal + Sanguinetti(the only 1st rounder not given time to make it and not)? I wouldnt. I trust Clarke and Gorton to get the Rangers 2 players who will help this team both now and in the future.

Now, if he was an UFA, that is a different story.

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11-04-2010, 02:15 PM
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No way. Think about the Rangers past 1st rounders. Woudl you give up MDZ + Staal? Kreider + MDZ? Hell, would you give up Staal + Sanguinetti(the only 1st rounder not given time to make it and not)? I wouldnt. I trust Clarke and Gorton to get the Rangers 2 players who will help this team both now and in the future.

Now, if he was an UFA, that is a different story.
He might actually be better than Staal ... /blasphemy

And yea I'd give up a 1st and something else for him absolutely...a long term RD partner for MDZ, though as nails, booming shot, versatility - he'd be great!

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11-04-2010, 03:08 PM
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Everyone's in agreement that Kreider won't be at BC next year, yeah? It's just a matter of where he's going to be able to play. In before "don't break up the Pack/BAR/Homegrown line" also.

Not picking up any UFAs

RFA
New Contract

2011-2012

Dubinsky-Stepan-Gaborik
Kreider-Anisimov-Callahan
Avery-Drury-Prust
Zuccarello-Boyle-Grachev
Boogaard
Christensen

EDIT: WAH WAH WAH, I forgot Drury.

Staal-Rozsival
McDonagh-Girardi
Del Zotto-Sauer
Valentenko

Lundqvist
Biron

What's going to be an even bigger question is 2012, when we look like this (with my signings)

2012-2013

Dubinsky-Stepan-Gaborik
Kreider-Anisimov-Callahan
?-?-?
?-Boyle-Grachev
?

Staal-Girardi
McDonagh-?
Del Zotto-?
Valentenko


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11-04-2010, 03:13 PM
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Everyone's in agreement that Kreider won't be at BC next year, yeah? It's just a matter of where he's going to be able to play. In before "don't break up the Pack/BAR/Homegrown line" also.

Not picking up any UFAs

RFA
New Contract

2011-2012

Dubinsky-Stepan-Gaborik
Kreider-Anisimov-Callahan
Avery-Christensen-Prust
Zuccarello-Boyle-Grachev
Boogaard
Kennedy/Whalepacker

Staal-Rozsival
McDonagh-Girardi
Del Zotto-Sauer
Valentenko

Lundqvist
Biron
This is exactly what I want the team to look like. Hopefully it all shakes up like this.


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11-04-2010, 03:16 PM
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I'd love to get him. If he keeps this up, though, he'll command an upwards of 4 mil this summer. But I'd gladly give up a 1st or two to get the Big Man.
Best case scenario, he goes to arbitration with the Thrashers and gets a 1 year deal and will become UFA upon it's expiration.... But yeah, I agree he'll get around $4 mil and if he can play the way he's playing now, that will be well worth it for his services...

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What's Cam Barker up too anyway... Still on the Hawks?

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11-04-2010, 03:28 PM
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Everyone's in agreement that Kreider won't be at BC next year, yeah? It's just a matter of where he's going to be able to play. In before "don't break up the Pack/BAR/Homegrown line" also.

Not picking up any UFAs

RFA
New Contract

2011-2012

Dubinsky-Stepan-Gaborik
Kreider-Anisimov-Callahan
Avery-Christensen-Prust
Zuccarello-Boyle-Grachev
Boogaard
Kennedy/Whalepacker

Staal-Rozsival
McDonagh-Girardi
Del Zotto-Sauer
Valentenko

Lundqvist
Biron

What's going to be an even bigger question is 2012, when we look like this (with my signings)

2012-2013

Dubinsky-Stepan-Gaborik
Kreider-Anisimov-Callahan
?-?-?
?-Boyle-Grachev
?

Staal-Girardi
McDonagh-?
Del Zotto-?
Valentenko
Dont mean to burst your bubble but where's drury?

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11-04-2010, 03:32 PM
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Dont mean to burst your bubble but where's drury?
Yeahhh I knew I forgot someone when I re-read it a few times. Doesn't ruin it too much though, just means that we don't have a resign for a 14th forward, and EC takes that spot.

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Yeahhh I knew I forgot someone when I re-read it a few times. Doesn't ruin it too much though, just means that we don't have a resign for a 14th forward, and EC takes that spot.
Yea I always do that when I put effort into writing out the home lineup, I didn't notice it at first but I did say to myself that I'd rather a veteran center in the 3c spot he he fits right in there perfectly and I I don't think there'd be any cap problems with that lineup. Do you think kreider will slide right into the 2 line lw spot? I don't know much about him i am confident stepan will be ready for the first line center and I think dubs will mature even more and take on the first line lw spot

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11-04-2010, 03:59 PM
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Yea I always do that when I put effort into writing out the home lineup, I didn't notice it at first but I did say to myself that I'd rather a veteran center in the 3c spot he he fits right in there perfectly and I I don't think there'd be any cap problems with that lineup. Do you think kreider will slide right into the 2 line lw spot? I don't know much about him i am confident stepan will be ready for the first line center and I think dubs will mature even more and take on the first line lw spot
I honestly don't know myself. I do know that Avery nor MZA would be a 2nd line LW, and I don't think we have anyone in the Pack that could play it. Like everyone else already pointed out, it's going to be a hole that needs to be filled.

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What's Cam Barker up too anyway... Still on the Hawks?
Minnesota.

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11-04-2010, 04:08 PM
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We should all be hoping the cap goes up.

The path to true contenders stems from developing (and paying) a young core, but also from using the Drury/Rozsival money to obtain a true #1 center, and first pairing defenseman in 2 offseasons.

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I honestly don't know myself. I do know that Avery nor MZA would be a 2nd line LW, and I don't think we have anyone in the Pack that could play it. Like everyone else already pointed out, it's going to be a hole that needs to be filled.
Yea but our biggest need would be a second line left wing which is a hell of a lot better than a first line lw or center. I like Avery but don't think he's used enough pp/pk etc but I think third line lw is where he fits in best next to drury and maybe grachev next year who knows. But a lot of people do seam to be high on kreider which is good.

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Yea but our biggest need would be a second line left wing which is a hell of a lot better than a first line lw or center. I like Avery but don't think he's used enough pp/pk etc but I think third line lw is where he fits in best next to drury and maybe grachev next year who knows. But a lot of people do seam to be high on kreider which is good.
Our biggest need, by far, is a 1st line center.

If Stepan or Anisimov develops into one, thats great, but I wouldnt bet on it.

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11-05-2010, 01:53 PM
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I don't know if this has been mentioned or not yet, but if the cap does go up by $3-4 million, and a deal can be pulled for Rozsival or Drury (not that I hate them or the way they play, just would need the extra cap in this scenario, and I realize Drury is a very, very, long-shot trade), would anyone be opposed to throwing $9+ mil, 10-year deal at an RFA Stamkos (haven't heard anything lately about contract extension in Tampa) and saying goodbye to Christ, Gilroy, Frolov, Feds (barring a very low-paying deal to stay), and a couple of draft picks that would likely be very late with a top line involving Stamkos-Gaborik? I know that would leave the team short on LWs, but I believe Dubinksy played relatively well there last season, even if that would break up the Pack line, and I'm sure there are some other options (Feds on a low deal) that could happen, as I don't know the entirety of the UFA market this upcoming season.

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