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11-04-2010, 04:23 PM
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Buffalo and Flames

From Buffalo:
Derek Roy $4m 3 years
Steve Montador 1.55m 1 year
= 5.55m

Calgary:
David Moss 1.3m 2 Years
Steve Staios 2.7m 1 year
T.J Brodie 0.733m 3 Years
Greg Nemisz 1.045m 3 Years
4th Round
= 5.778m

Staios is just a dump.
4th for Montador, nice physical simple dman, not overly fast and sometimes prone to make mistakes in his own zone.

Moss, Brodie and Nemo for Roy young players that could take another year of seasoning but if the Sabres are planning on tanking then its not a bad thing for them as Brodie and Nemo can be called up to play for them. Roy is a perennial just under ppg game player but is widely considered to be a top line center man. He never seemed to have clicked with Vanek the way Briere and Vanek did though. Moss lines up as a hard working winger so you don't need to have Mike Grier as your 2nd line winger and move Ennis to the middle where he has played for most of his junior career.

So this is of course assuming we think we can make for a long playoff run here. Obviously if we are going to be losing, I would consider moving out players and getting younger instead of acquiring older players. Roy is 27 years old so you are looking at him entering the good years of his career hopefully.

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take brodie out, put pelech in

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take brodie out, put pelech in
Brodie is the higher value. I doubt they want Pelech. Its either that or we put in our 1st rounder

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Why would the sabres do that?

They would be looking for a trade that would be beneficial to them making the playoffs this year.

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Why would the sabres do that?

They would be looking for a trade that would be beneficial to them making the playoffs this year.
Miller is injured with a hip flexor and he has stated he is having problems with his knee since training camp. They are in last place right now with more games played by the Oilers.

Looks like a retooling year, give Miller surgery give Ennis experience among other things.

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Brodie is the higher value. I doubt they want Pelech. Its either that or we put in our 1st rounder
Ok, so no deal with the way Brodie played in preseason, I am almost 100% sure he's sticking around. so maybe negrin and pelech?

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Ok, so no deal with the way Brodie played in preseason, I am almost 100% sure he's sticking around. so maybe negrin and pelech?
The question isn't whether they will stick around or not, but if they are high enough value. If you think Roy is a top center man then Negrin/Pelech is not likely enough. If you think Roy is a 2nd line center, then yes you don't need Brodie.

Its quite obvious I'm not looking to trade for a 2nd line center, therefore I'll be treating as if we're going for a 1st line center

Though with the way Iggy plays now im not sure if a first line center will do him any good.

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Iggy and White for Roy and Myers

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Iggy and White for Roy and Myers
Why would Buffalo do that?

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Even if Buffalo retools this year, Roy isn't going anywhere, with 3 years left on his contract.

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I highly doubt buffalo does that. And I think we woud need to send a center back the other way as we would have Stajan, Roy, Jokinen and Backlund.

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I do not like this proposal at all. I think Roy is overrated, and then we give up Brodie, Nemisz, a 4th and take Montador back? I'll pass, stopped reading right there.

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Even if Buffalo retools this year, Roy isn't going anywhere, with 3 years left on his contract.
Bingo.

The trade proposal doesn't make any sense for Buffalo. Quantity doesn't equal quality and there's not much quality going to Buffalo. Brodie has the highest value in the trade, but his potential is that of a top-4 defenceman. Staois has negative value. Nemisz's value is quite low, as he projects to be a third-line forward. Moss has little value to Buffalo, and that fourth-round pick is virtually zero value.

If the Sabres are going to deal Roy, they're going to be looking at acquiring a top-end forward prospect and a high draft pick.

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This is a horrible trade proposal.
The Flames should not be dealing away high end prospects.
Hands off players like Nemisz and Brodie.

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