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11-05-2010, 06:46 PM
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Pacioretty, one-dimensional?

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11-05-2010, 06:47 PM
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Whatever you think of him, he's simply not going to yield an established player around the same age.

When guys like Grabner are hitting the waiver wire, you know teams aren't exactly lining up for similarly-aged, relatively one-dimensional prospects.



Ugh. How on earth is that a trade for a contender, Jags?
Contender? (he says in a Jim Mora voice)

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11-05-2010, 07:01 PM
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Whatever you think of him, he's simply not going to yield an established player around the same age.

When guys like Grabner are hitting the waiver wire, you know teams aren't exactly lining up for similarly-aged, relatively one-dimensional prospects.



Ugh. How on earth is that a trade for a contender, Jags?
this thread was created by a pens fans. only one or two delusional hab fans on here have made threads dealing him. we don't want or need someone like Kennedy and fully believe in pacioretty's potential.
he'll get his shot here...there will be room for him in the top 6 - esepcially if a guy like pouliot doesn't seize his opportunities. he's the habs best scoring winger / prospect with size who's close to being ready. he's not getting dealt for a bottom six plumber right now

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11-05-2010, 07:40 PM
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Paciorrety+ vs Depres.

maybe like Pacman + webber vs Depres + 2nd
Webber is worth a 2nd, and Depres is worth more then Pax, so that doesn't seem very fair. Maybe something like

Pax and Webber for Letang

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Contender? (he says in a Jim Mora voice)
Mm-hmm.

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Pacioretty, one-dimensional?
Yes. He's not the sort who can thrive in a bottom 6 role if the top 6 thing doesn't pan out.

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this thread was created by a pens fans. only one or two delusional hab fans on here have made threads dealing him. we don't want or need someone like Kennedy and fully believe in pacioretty's potential.
he'll get his shot here...there will be room for him in the top 6 - esepcially if a guy like pouliot doesn't seize his opportunities. he's the habs best scoring winger / prospect with size who's close to being ready. he's not getting dealt for a bottom six plumber right now
That's fine.

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11-05-2010, 07:48 PM
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Webber is worth a 2nd, and Depres is worth more then Pax, so that doesn't seem very fair. Maybe something like

Pax and Webber for Letang
Two players who can't crack an NHL roster for a player who's only a year older, but is an established big league player who's logged 20 minutes a night on a Cup winner and is currently tied for 4th among defensemen in NHL scoring?

Sounds fair.

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11-05-2010, 10:19 PM
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What about Tyler Kennedy for Pacioretty>?
Tyler Kennedy? The guy who was not good enough for the Sabres and was not-resigned for MaxPac?

How about Dustin Boyd for Tangradi?

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Tyler Kennedy? The guy who was not good enough for the Sabres and was not-resigned for MaxPac?

How about Dustin Boyd for Tangradi?

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Patches can't yeild a top 6 forward in a trade but he is going to probably be a top 6 forward so it would be dumb to trade him.

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we don't want your garbage, just as when all of you start to cry when hab fans make dumb proposals. his 'star' hasn't faded. he had a good first year, was injured last year and finished in the A...and this year has begun as a pt + a game player...we'll keep our 6'2 winger prospects who can skate and score. thanks for Kennedy anyway. but no thanks
Kennedy's a good third liner. He's not "garbage." He's been a part for the last two years of probably the best third line in hockey. So, he's not garbage. And I wasn't proposing a straight-up swap. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but be a little more rational next time.

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Tyler Kennedy? The guy who was not good enough for the Sabres and was not-resigned for MaxPac?

How about Dustin Boyd for Tangradi?
That was Tim Kennedy

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Kennedy's a good third liner. He's not "garbage." He's been a part for the last two years of probably the best third line in hockey. So, he's not garbage. And I wasn't proposing a straight-up swap. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but be a little more rational next time.
we don't need anymore 'good third liners' and i appreciate your enthusiasm. Kennedy and a mid pick still wouldn't do it but thanks for coming out.

as mentioned by a fellow hab fan trade us tancredi for dustin boyd and a 4th.

interested? didn't think so

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Two players who can't crack an NHL roster for a player who's only a year older, but is an established big league player who's logged 20 minutes a night on a Cup winner and is currently tied for 4th among defensemen in NHL scoring?

Sounds fair.
He is 1st now.

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Paciorrety+ vs Depres.

maybe like Pacman + webber vs Depres + 2nd
If PacMan is the centerpiece for Despres Shero tells you:

Do.Not.Want.

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Out of curiosity what would we have to add in order to land Letang and no I am not opposed to moving Eller or any of our picks.

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we don't need anymore 'good third liners' and i appreciate your enthusiasm. Kennedy and a mid pick still wouldn't do it but thanks for coming out.

as mentioned by a fellow hab fan trade us tancredi for dustin boyd and a 4th.

interested? didn't think so
If you're going to condescend (even more than I did), at least get the names right.

No, I wouldn't be interested in a such a trade. However, Tangradi's better than Pacioretty and Kennedy's better than Boyd, so your example doesn't really apply.

Kennedy and a 2nd for Pacioretty isn't unreasonable. Look at what Dan Carcillo fetched for Phoenix.

Keep him, fine, but don't make it out like that was so unreasonable.

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Despres isn't getting moved unless its an extreme overpay.

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we'll keep our 6'2 winger prospects who can skate and score.
Patches can score? News to me. Last time I checked his professional career high in goals was 6 AHL + 3 NHL = 9. Last season he scored total of 5 goals in 70 games (52 NHL, 18 AHL)

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Despres isn't getting moved unless its an extreme overpay.
He isn't getting traded, Period. Our other D prospects should go for Forward prospects. We will be using Despres after next season. He should go to the AHL for a full season, we need to take our time on him, he is going to be a BEAST! and with our D we don't need to rush him to the lineup when we can use that sweet sweet low cap hit for when we really need it. We lack a prospect pool, atleast a good one so we can't bve trading our prospects at the deadline for a rental every year, the potential value they will bring for that small cap hit will be good for us down the road. We are built to win right now, and in the future aswell.

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Després is really the only player that would fit a big need.

As it won't happen, it's pretty obvious they aren't the best trading partners.

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He isn't getting traded, Period. Our other D prospects should go for Forward prospects. We will be using Despres after next season. He should go to the AHL for a full season, we need to take our time on him, he is going to be a BEAST! and with our D we don't need to rush him to the lineup when we can use that sweet sweet low cap hit for when we really need it. We lack a prospect pool, atleast a good one so we can't bve trading our prospects at the deadline for a rental every year, the potential value they will bring for that small cap hit will be good for us down the road. We are built to win right now, and in the future aswell.
I have a feeling we won't be holding on to one of our top 5, Despres will be in next year, unless....he has a complete meltdown.

Pac shouldn't be a hard target for this team, he provides absolutely nothing they need right now, and that's being a stud on the top lines. Pens need a scoring winger who is already developed scoring now.

Do not want.

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I have a feeling we won't be holding on to one of our top 5, Despres will be in next year, unless....he has a complete meltdown.

Pac shouldn't be a hard target for this team, he provides absolutely nothing they need right now, and that's being a stud on the top lines. Pens need a scoring winger who is already developed scoring now.

Do not want.
Well what i said only refers to players like Pacioretty....if we can get a LONG term cap friendly elite winger he would probably be dealt. There are exceptions when it comes to this because they can really help right now AND the future when we need the help then aswell. I'd be pretty effin stupid if i refused Despres to be dealt for say Ryan/Perry in a deal for them, or some long term sexy winger. Cap space is pretty important for us but the wingers i speak of can help now and the future, prospects are question marks at the NHL level even if they have had alot of success in non NHL play. Of course Despres is not the main piece in a deal for a long term elite winger so i wont say so and so for Despres+.

But if Despres is the main piece for pacman, hell NO!

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Out of curiosity what would we have to add in order to land Letang and no I am not opposed to moving Eller or any of our picks.
A 23 year old forward with 14 or more points this year.

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Pac shouldn't be a hard target for this team, he provides absolutely nothing they need right now, and that's being a stud on the top lines. Pens need a scoring winger who is already developed scoring now.

Do not want.
I disagree. Nobody's going to hand you an established, already developed scorer. That is why we need to be creative and find a scoring winger somewhere that isn't obvious. Pacioretty is exactly the type of player who could bust out if placed in a good situation. Kinda like Guillaume Latendresse last year.

Not saying it'll happen again for sure, but we don't have tradeable assets to acquire an already established scorer. So we need to try SOMETHING, and looking for a scorer who is currently down in the AHL is a good place to look.

It might not be Pacioretty, but the idea is good.

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