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11-06-2010, 01:34 PM
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Would be interesting to see the other side - last place teams and their HOF'ers.
Absolutely!
But... Not now

On top of my head, past WHA/NHL merger, I can name at least two of them

- Peter Forsberg with the Flyers in 06-07 (he isn't in the Hall yet, but we can safely say he's a lock to make it)
- Steve Yzerman with the Neale/Park coached team.

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I hope this doesn't derail the thread, but does anyone know which Stanley Cup winning team has the least amount of HHOFer's on it? Obviously recent teams are exempt...let's say pre-1990.
Hard to believe I am saying this because these teams were truly great teams but the Flyers only have three HHOFers. Barber, Clarke and Parent. Leach unfortunately drank too much and MacLeish is in without his injuries.

Other than that, the 1989 Flames come to mind. Only McDonald and MacInnis are in right now. Gilmour should be in there and Vernon has as good of a case as any non HHOF goalie. That leaves Fleury and the odd homer likes Nieuwendyk. But as it stands now, just two.

Other than that you have some great dynasty teams who were always chalk full with HHOFers.

This isn't an official count, but I have only 2 HHOFers on the 1943 Red Wings.

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Would be interesting to see the other side - last place teams and their HOF'ers.
Only going since expansion (obviously), the winner would have to be the 1989/90 Nordiques. 12-61-7, 31 points. Roster includes Guy Lafleur, Michel Goulet, Peter Stastny, and Joe Sakic.

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Hard to believe I am saying this because these teams were truly great teams but the Flyers only have three HHOFers. Barber, Clarke and Parent. Leach unfortunately drank too much and MacLeish is in without his injuries.

Other than that, the 1989 Flames come to mind. Only McDonald and MacInnis are in right now. Gilmour should be in there and Vernon has as good of a case as any non HHOF goalie. That leaves Fleury and the odd homer likes Nieuwendyk. But as it stands now, just two.

Other than that you have some great dynasty teams who were always chalk full with HHOFers.

This isn't an official count, but I have only 2 HHOFers on the 1943 Red Wings.
don't forget joe mullen. it's three, but three with a good number of legitimate maybes (gilmour, vernon, nieuwendyk, fleury). i mean "legitimate" here in the sense that there is an excellent chance that, if they don't get in, we will hear a lot about how each of these four guys should be in the HHOF for years and years, rightly or wrongly.

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Hard to believe I am saying this because these teams were truly great teams but the Flyers only have three HHOFers. Barber, Clarke and Parent. Leach unfortunately drank too much and MacLeish is in without his injuries.

Other than that, the 1989 Flames come to mind. Only McDonald and MacInnis are in right now. Gilmour should be in there and Vernon has as good of a case as any non HHOF goalie. That leaves Fleury and the odd homer likes Nieuwendyk. But as it stands now, just two.

Other than that you have some great dynasty teams who were always chalk full with HHOFers.

This isn't an official count, but I have only 2 HHOFers on the 1943 Red Wings.
Abel, Syd Howe, and Stewart are in for them 1943 Wings, giving them three. Goodfellow and Quackenbush played a few regular season games, but none in the playoffs.

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Only going since expansion (obviously), the winner would have to be the 1989/90 Nordiques. 12-61-7, 31 points. Roster includes Guy Lafleur, Michel Goulet, Peter Stastny, and Joe Sakic.
Damn, with my Forsberg post, that was pretty much missing the forest because of the trees...

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Absolutely!
But... Not now

On top of my head, past WHA/NHL merger, I can name at least two of them

- Peter Forsberg with the Flyers in 06-07 (he isn't in the Hall yet, but we can safely say he's a lock to make it)
- Steve Yzerman with the Neale/Park coached team.
1988-'91 nords: sakic, stastny, goulet, lafleur, and possibly/probably sundin.

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Absolutely!
But... Not now

On top of my head, past WHA/NHL merger, I can name at least two of them

- Peter Forsberg with the Flyers in 06-07 (he isn't in the Hall yet, but we can safely say he's a lock to make it)
- Steve Yzerman with the Neale/Park coached team.
Francis and Brind'Amour with the 02-03 Hurricanes.

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While Barasso is certainly amongst the best goalies not in, the guy had some major consistency problems (from one season to another), and was not a very likeable person. He isn't a guy that "screams" HHOF -- I'm sure the commitee sees Curtis Joseph as a better candidate than Barasso (and let's not get there...).

I'm gonna consider him a shot in the dark - but he's a guy that has been retired for a while, and there WERE weak classes since then. Would be nice to see the "voting results"...



I'm probably gonna add both as shots in the dark. Beezer probably has the best "case" between the three guys. I think Richter is seriously overrated, but he has a resume, so...
barrasso is one of those cases where i think when enough time passes, the people he pissed off will either stop caring, forget, or cease to be relevant. plus, with enough distance (rightly or wrongly), people will probably gloss over his season-to-season consistency and his very impressive resume will become a bigger factor.

vernon and nieuwendyk are two other guys who will look a lot better as time passes and we forget the abysmal playoff years and the lack of elite regular seasons.

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Interesting research. It prompts the question of whether having many HHOFers ensures playoff success, or if winning Cups ensures HHOF induction.

Should there be a distinction made between how many HHOFers a team had compared to how many HHOFers in the prime of their career that a team had?

For example, the '96 Blues had 7 (Hull, MacInnis, Gretzky, Pronger, Fuhr, Hawerchuk, Anderson), but nobody would suggest that they were anything close to a legendary team.

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don't forget joe mullen. it's three, but three with a good number of legitimate maybes (gilmour, vernon, nieuwendyk, fleury). i mean "legitimate" here in the sense that there is an excellent chance that, if they don't get in, we will hear a lot about how each of these four guys should be in the HHOF for years and years, rightly or wrongly.
right, forgot about him

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right, forgot about him
Joe Mullen is easy to forget.

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