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10-30-2010, 10:47 AM
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Why exactly does this board always need to have 3 or 4 people that they f**king hate?

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10-30-2010, 10:57 AM
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wonder what Carter+Maroon package can garner
A 2nd round pick and a signed puck from Stevie Y.

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Cartsiephan's feet are always in his mouth, so you can see how that gets mixed up.
Dude is a hater period

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11-01-2010, 09:17 AM
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Just thought I would bump this so no one gets the wrong impression......Carter had two very good games and looks like he may be able to handle playing wing with Giroux, it certainly works for the better, maybe once Zherdev come back he can fit on the opposite wing and we can watch Claude work his magic. Props to Carter for putting together some good games. Keep raising his trade value..

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Let's see, solid two-way player that plays two positions and is an RFA unlikely to cost much more than he's making now or package of scraps from another team ... tough decision!

Look at teams that have made a decision to trade players who are roughly as good or better than Carter lately. First off, why they made them. In the cases of Hossa and Kovalchuk, the guys were flat out not coming back. That isn't the case with Carter. With Phaneuf, he was a locker room cancer who was underproducing. Neither really applies to Carter. Second, look at the return they got. Calgary got a bunch of castoffs from Toronto, one of whom was actually worth keeping (White). Atlanta got two huge packages and while Bergfors and Oduya are good players they will ultimately cost more than Kovalchuk per annum and are replaceable for less money (where, at least arguably, he is not).

If there were a steal out there to be had, sure, if the Flyers REALLY need a goalie as the season progresses and a legitimate stud (e.g. Backstrom) becomes available, OK. But to actively shop him? I just don't see that being a good move and I think keeping him would be wise.

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11-07-2010, 07:08 PM
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It would be nice if he pulled his head out of his ass soon, he's pretty awful out there.

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It would be nice if he pulled his head out of his ass soon, he's pretty awful out there.
He centered the best line on the ice yesterday against the Islanders...

Why didn't Giroux lead that line to success today?

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11-07-2010, 07:42 PM
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He centered the best line on the ice yesterday against the Islanders...

Why didn't Giroux lead that line to success today?
Obviously because Carter was too busy being lazy, skating to the right, shooting high and wide, and murdering small animals during intermission.

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Carter didn't show up again tonight.

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I do want Carter to lose the tripping/slashing penalties, same with most our team

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Carter didn't show up again tonight.
Neither did Giroux. They both played like crap

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11-07-2010, 07:46 PM
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I do want Carter to lose the tripping/slashing penalties, same with most our team
I've come to accept that lazy stick penalties are the nature of the beast with this group.

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11-07-2010, 07:48 PM
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Can't be bothered to look it up...but the Caps announcers said all his goals are at home this year? I think he looks bad on the wing no matter which building he's in, but he has to find a way to contribute on the road if that's true.

Weird roster decisions are being made in the early going. Carter can't play wing.

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Carter didn't show up again tonight.
Neither did more then half the team.

I honestly can't be mad about him not producing when he's being constantly forced to play out of position either.

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Can't be bothered to look it up...but the Caps announcers said all his goals are at home this year? I think he looks bad on the wing no matter which building he's in, but he has to find a way to contribute on the road if that's true.

Weird roster decisions are being made in the early going. Carter can't play wing.
While I would prefer him at center, if he's going to be a wing, he needs to be playing LW.

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11-07-2010, 08:50 PM
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Carter didn't show up again tonight.
You also complained about Kimmo and a couple of others. Wanna trade him too? The fact remains that Carter is not a winger and the coach needs to put him back at centre. His line against the Isles was fantastic and that's because he was playing centre.

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He centered the best line on the ice yesterday against the Islanders...

Why didn't Giroux lead that line to success today?
Are we going to count how many games each player has turned up to this season?

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I still wonder if that Giroux-Carter thing might work at some point. I did complain about this earlier, but the fact that we have Powe playing on what is supposed to be a scoring line is just asinine.

We've gotten away with it for a while (also with the Nodl/Wellwood experiments), but that's not going to keep happening. I mean honestly, why the heck not try out a JVR-Carter-Roo line? JVR hasn't been the bee's knees, but he's a better ES player than Powe.

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11-07-2010, 09:05 PM
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It would be nice if he pulled his head out of his ass soon, he's pretty awful out there.
*Spoken after Carter just had his 5-7 best games of the season.*

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Are we going to count how many games each player has turned up to this season?
*Spoken while defending Giroux.*




Just great, no double standards on the Flyers board!

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11-07-2010, 09:26 PM
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Don't complain about Carter. We looked tired on the ice tonight. Effort in short bursts throughout the game but nothing consistent. It's a miracle we came away with a point.

I will say that there was a brilliant effort for the last four minutes of the game.

Carter, Giroux, Powe, Hartnell, Richards, and Leino all looked REALLY tired though pretty much the entire game. A game before, and decent trip, and an early arrival was obvious.

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*Spoken after Carter just had his 5-7 best games of the season.*



*Spoken while defending Giroux.*




Just great, no double standards on the Flyers board!
i think you can say giroux seems to be working harder than carter/having more success without counting any games "shown up to" or points, and with no bias. Love or hate carter, comparing him to giroux is almost always gonna favor the roo.

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11-07-2010, 09:29 PM
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*Spoken after Carter just had his 5-7 best games of the season.*

*Spoken while defending Giroux.*

Just great, no double standards on the Flyers board!
We're 15 games in, having the best 7 games of your season isn't that big an achievement.

He's got 8 points in 9 games, but all of those points have come in 3 games against the Canes, Sabres and Isles. Two of whom are in the bottom 4 and the other 19th. In fact, he's not scored a single point yet this season against a team in a play-off position right now.

If that's good enough for you then fair enough, but it's not for me.

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11-07-2010, 09:38 PM
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We're 15 games in, having the best 7 games of your season isn't that big an achievement.

He's got 8 points in 9 games, but all of those points have come in 3 games against the Canes, Sabres and Isles. Two of whom are in the bottom 4 and the other 19th. In fact, he's not scored a single point yet this season against a team in a play-off position right now.

If that's good enough for you then fair enough, but it's not for me.
As opposed to Giroux's massive 3 points against PO teams one of which was an assist to Zherdev he didn't know jack**** about, wow what a divide there.

My whole point is that you criticize Carter after 4-5 really strong games and then immediately rush to Roo's defense because Jester pointed out that he wasn't at his best tonight (which was true for both of them).

I mean Jesus, the team had a rough game at the end of a long stretch where they won 6 of 7 and took 13 of 14 points and people want to jump right back on the same tired dead horses as before.

EDIT: In case this isn't clear, I will reemphasize my opinion that saying "Player A had points against Team 1 and Player B had points against Team 2" is really ****ing dumb. A goal is a goal and 2 points are 2 points no matter who the hell you're playing against.

2 points against the Islanders count just the same as 2 points against the Capitals.

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11-07-2010, 09:44 PM
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i think you can say giroux seems to be working harder than carter/having more success without counting any games "shown up to" or points, and with no bias. Love or hate carter, comparing him to giroux is almost always gonna favor the roo.
Carter has never had to move like other guys to show his effort. People mistake that for lazy. The guy just doesn't need to move like that...it's a deceptive talent. It's not that he isn't trying, it's that he doesn't look the same when exerting that effort.

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