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11-01-2010, 05:45 PM
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I dont like it whenever there is a leg injury of some sort. I hope they arent rushing Suter

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I dont like it whenever there is a leg injury of some sort. I hope they arent rushing Suter
Suter did not skate today. He's not being rushed.

Bouillon left practice early because he was not cleared for contact drills today.

Legwand took a "maintanence" day.

Erat did not skate and judging by the new lines at practice today, if Goc is ready for Wednesday, then Erat's likely not going to be, but will know more tomorrow.

Tootoo and Goc did skate, but both did a conditioning drill instead of contact on the first 2 v 2 contact drill. They did participate in the rest of practice though and Goc was practicing faceoffs afterwards with Trotz and Spaling (a good sign for anyone with a shoulder injury).

Lombardi remains totally shutdown and is scheduled to be re-evaluted next Tuesday. He is now listed as out indefinitely (which really isn't a change from being week to week honestly).

Let's see, I just seemed to name half our roster...did I miss anyone?

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11-01-2010, 07:33 PM
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Suter, Bouillon, Goc, Erat, Tootoo, Lombardi, Rinne. Seems Leggy is banged up, too. And we're just ten games in.

Had we not stockpiled the depth this year we would be looking at twenty nine teams ahead of us. This is getting ridiculous.

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11-01-2010, 08:13 PM
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Suter did not skate today. He's not being rushed.

Bouillon left practice early because he was not cleared for contact drills today.

Legwand took a "maintanence" day.

Erat did not skate and judging by the new lines at practice today, if Goc is ready for Wednesday, then Erat's likely not going to be, but will know more tomorrow.

Tootoo and Goc did skate, but both did a conditioning drill instead of contact on the first 2 v 2 contact drill. They did participate in the rest of practice though and Goc was practicing faceoffs afterwards with Trotz and Spaling (a good sign for anyone with a shoulder injury).

Lombardi remains totally shutdown and is scheduled to be re-evaluted next Tuesday. He is now listed as out indefinitely (which really isn't a change from being week to week honestly).

Let's see, I just seemed to name half our roster...did I miss anyone?
Thanks for all the updates and thanks for all the twitters also.

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11-01-2010, 09:06 PM
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Suter, Bouillon, Goc, Erat, Tootoo, Lombardi, Rinne. Seems Leggy is banged up, too. And we're just ten games in.

Had we not stockpiled the depth this year we would be looking at twenty nine teams ahead of us. This is getting ridiculous.
Not to mention Coach H. Cue up the Nancy Kerrigan WHY? WHHHHHHHY?

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Thanks for all the updates and thanks for all the twitters also.
No problem. Always happy to talk Predators hockey!

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Well, at least you know the guys will be well rested towards the end of the year.

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Well, at least you know the guys will be well rested towards the end of the year.
Yes, but at this rate, will we have enough healthy bodies to get us through to a meaningful end-of-year?

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Any news on Suter?

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11-09-2010, 09:17 AM
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Any news on Suter?
Was re-evaluated Monday. Will likely get update today from practice. Team got back at 3:17 AM Monday morning and were off yesterday.

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Forechecker It does look like Suter & Erat will practice today, a hopeful sign for the Preds. #nhl

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They wore red non-contact jerseys and left midway through practice when they switched rinks.

It was actually a standard first day back. Will see how they react and progress from there...

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They wore red non-contact jerseys and left midway through practice when they switched rinks.

It was actually a standard first day back. Will see how they react and progress from there...
Is SK still on the team?
Was he at practice?
Any comments on his scratch?

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They wore red non-contact jerseys and left midway through practice when they switched rinks.

It was actually a standard first day back. Will see how they react and progress from there...
My hopes aren't up too high but I'm so happy he's back on skates.

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Is SK still on the team?
Was he at practice?
Any comments on his scratch?
Yes, he is still on the team.

Yes, he was at practice and skated on a line with Goc and Tootoo at ES and was skating with PP2 as well.

No. Officially, it is being listed as a coach's decision and that's the end of it. Obviously, he was punished and now we move forward...

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They wore red non-contact jerseys and left midway through practice when they switched rinks.

It was actually a standard first day back. Will see how they react and progress from there...
Hooray. If they come back healthy in a week, I'll be ecstatic...

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Was re-evaluated Monday. Will likely get update today from practice. Team got back at 3:17 AM Monday morning and were off yesterday.
Thanks man! Looking forward to his return. Best of luck to you guys.

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What was the overall mood/tone of the team during practice; was there any additional work to "motivate" these guys or fix a horribly broken PP?????

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What was the overall mood/tone of the team during practice; was there any additional work to "motivate" these guys or fix a horribly broken PP?????
Wasn't as upbeat as earlier this year, but a much more workmanlike atmosphere with an occasional joke and smile mixed in. Trotz was quick to stop and correct things that went wrong.

By "additional work" I assume you mean a bag skate. No, that was pretty much off the table when they had yesterday off. Lots of work on the basics, trying to establish flow in transition, correcting d-zone breakdowns on entry, etc.

As for the PP, Trotz ran the guys through again the 3 different looks (1-3-1, overload, umbrella) and all four options off of each look. With the ever changing lineup due to injuries, it's been hard to build any chemistry with the units. It takes time and repitition to master, but I don't think you can blame Trotz for the failure of the PP. He's certainly giving them plenty of instruction and multiple options to work within. Unfortunately, he can't go out there and do it himself...

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Wasn't as upbeat as earlier this year, but a much more workmanlike atmosphere with an occasional joke and smile mixed in. Trotz was quick to stop and correct things that went wrong.

By "additional work" I assume you mean a bag skate. No, that was pretty much off the table when they had yesterday off. Lots of work on the basics, trying to establish flow in transition, correcting d-zone breakdowns on entry, etc.

As for the PP, Trotz ran the guys through again the 3 different looks (1-3-1, overload, umbrella) and all four options off of each look. With the ever changing lineup due to injuries, it's been hard to build any chemistry with the units. It takes time and repitition to master, but I don't think you can blame Trotz for the failure of the PP. He's certainly giving them plenty of instruction and multiple options to work within. Unfortunately, he can't go out there and do it himself...
Then who is to blame if it's not the coach? Then it must be the asst coach. How long can you blame injuries when the PP wasn't good last year. What is it going to take for the PP to work? Trotz is a defensive coach so maybe he doesn't have the solution to PP so why not bring another asst coach to infuse some new ideas into the PP. Don't you think it's time?

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Then who is to blame if it's not the coach?
The GM

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Is SK still on the team?
Was he at practice?
Any comments on his scratch?
they traded him to toronto. if you dig deep enough in their forums i am sure you can find it. if you don't see it on the first page, or second or 80th, keep looking. it is there somewhere. lemme know when you find it.

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Wasn't as upbeat as earlier this year, but a much more workmanlike atmosphere with an occasional joke and smile mixed in. Trotz was quick to stop and correct things that went wrong.

By "additional work" I assume you mean a bag skate. No, that was pretty much off the table when they had yesterday off. Lots of work on the basics, trying to establish flow in transition, correcting d-zone breakdowns on entry, etc.

As for the PP, Trotz ran the guys through again the 3 different looks (1-3-1, overload, umbrella) and all four options off of each look. With the ever changing lineup due to injuries, it's been hard to build any chemistry with the units. It takes time and repitition to master, but I don't think you can blame Trotz for the failure of the PP. He's certainly giving them plenty of instruction and multiple options to work within. Unfortunately, he can't go out there and do it himself...
Well, the players have been different over the years and it's been a problem for a while now. Do we blame the GM since he's giving Trotz the roster? At some point, someone has to be accountable. Not saying it has to be Trotz and his staff but those have been the only constant, other than the PP sucking. It's time to bring in a new voice, assistant coach, who knows something about a PP. It's killing us. If we can get our PP percentage up to a respectable level and have it consistent, this team would be dangerous, especially when it makes it to the playoffs. It's not that we're outmanned, it's that we're out special teamed. You win at many phases and if one phase isn't working, you're usually going to lose.

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do any of you think it is the culture we have and the type of players we have. all hard hat hard working guys. on the pk, you see it because our guys all hustle and work hard and you can see what trotz calls the detail in games becasue you don't have to think at all with it, you just react. Same as in 5 v 5. not a whole lot of thinking going on with dump, chase, cycle cycle open man shoot. or carry the puck in, find open man, open man shot, or if it isn't there cyclle cycle cylce. With the PP there is more time to think and I think that is where our pp gets lost.Every team runs the ame 3-4 looks, it is about processing the game quicker rather than reacting. It seems like when we get a pp, the game slows and we can't adjust from going 100 mph to 50 mph and reacting to what the pks are giving us. And that is a between the ears problem for our playmakers-the guys on the halfboards and the dman puck mover. now certainly, suter being injured hurts our pp terribly. we obviosly have point shots in weber and franson and net presence in hornquist. but it is along the boards where the great pp passes come from. this is where I think we need to have wilson developing.

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do any of you think it is the culture we have and the type of players we have. all hard hat hard working guys. on the pk, you see it because our guys all hustle and work hard and you can see what trotz calls the detail in games becasue you don't have to think at all with it, you just react. Same as in 5 v 5. not a whole lot of thinking going on with dump, chase, cycle cycle open man shoot. or carry the puck in, find open man, open man shot, or if it isn't there cyclle cycle cylce. With the PP there is more time to think and I think that is where our pp gets lost.Every team runs the ame 3-4 looks, it is about processing the game quicker rather than reacting. It seems like when we get a pp, the game slows and we can't adjust from going 100 mph to 50 mph and reacting to what the pks are giving us. And that is a between the ears problem for our playmakers-the guys on the halfboards and the dman puck mover. now certainly, suter being injured hurts our pp terribly. we obviosly have point shots in weber and franson and net presence in hornquist. but it is along the boards where the great pp passes come from. this is where I think we need to have wilson developing.
That's exactly where I've said there's a problem the past few years. When we set up and try to use the open space our lack of true offensive talent is exposed...

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