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11-08-2010, 11:39 PM
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Was about time.

Now bring some fresh blood from Hamilton.

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11-08-2010, 11:49 PM
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Let's wait and see. Still fighting an injury he had previously. While we all think he won't amount to anything, we all know what trades can do to players. Sergei has talent. Needs to start to be a professional and then use it. But I remember we had a whole lot of expectations for him and thought he might have in him to become better than his bro. So let's wait and see there. Truly, he didn't have a lot of value then. I just wished we would have gotten rid of him before he had less than zero value....
Isn't that our trademark already?

We either trade for nothing, or worse, bigger problems... or let them walk away in their prime.

I know blaming the management is easy and trendy.. but.. uhh.

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11-09-2010, 12:08 AM
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He had to have demanded a trade.

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11-09-2010, 12:24 AM
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If he clears waivers, my guess would be Boyd is off to play for the Manitoba Moose.

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11-09-2010, 12:28 AM
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Just to be clear with everyone, Justin Boyd is not an asset.

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11-09-2010, 12:37 AM
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Didn't read the 11 pages

I could see three reasons why Boyd was waived

-JM and/or PG think that he has no future with the Habs
-The management wants to call up a player from Hamilton and they want to make room on the 23 man roster
-Boyd is only 24 and might still have some potential. It might be better for him to play with the Dogs rather than sitting in the stands.

Reason 1 and 2 are kinda connected though. But if we recall a player he has to take Darche, Pyatt or Eller's spot or else it won't make sense to recall a prospect just to let him sit in the stands.

I think it's an odd timing to waive Boyd. We only have 13 forwards with the club and it's not like we are desperatly close to the salary cap. Boyd isn't a great player but he still is good enough to play in the NHL. If he gets claimed, I'm sure that we will miss him if 2 or 3 of our forwards get injured.

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11-09-2010, 12:43 AM
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Didn't read the 11 pages

I could see three reasons why Boyd was waived

-JM and/or PG think that he has no future with the Habs
-The management wants to call up a player from Hamilton and they want to make room on the 23 man roster
-Boyd is only 24 and might still have some potential. It might be better for him to play with the Dogs rather than sitting in the stands.

Reason 1 and 2 are kinda connected though. But if we recall a player he has to take Darche, Pyatt or Eller's spot or else it won't make sense to recall a prospect just to let him sit in the stands.

I think it's an odd timing to waive Boyd. We only have 13 forwards with the club and it's not like we are desperatly close to the salary cap. Boyd isn't a great player but he still is good enough to play in the NHL. If he gets claimed, I'm sure that we will miss him if 2 or 3 of our forwards get injured.
I believe that there is at least 3 players from hamilton who would be more useful than Boyd... and Bergeron is coming!!!!!!!!

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11-09-2010, 12:48 AM
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Didn't read the 11 pages

I could see three reasons why Boyd was waived

-JM and/or PG think that he has no future with the Habs
-The management wants to call up a player from Hamilton and they want to make room on the 23 man roster
-Boyd is only 24 and might still have some potential. It might be better for him to play with the Dogs rather than sitting in the stands.

Reason 1 and 2 are kinda connected though. But if we recall a player he has to take Darche, Pyatt or Eller's spot or else it won't make sense to recall a prospect just to let him sit in the stands.

I think it's an odd timing to waive Boyd. We only have 13 forwards with the club and it's not like we are desperatly close to the salary cap. Boyd isn't a great player but he still is good enough to play in the NHL. If he gets claimed, I'm sure that we will miss him if 2 or 3 of our forwards get injured.

"Si personne ne le réclame, il fera partie de notre équipe de la même façon et on continuera à travailler avec lui."

Martin said that Boyd will not go to AHL
so cant recall a player. 2 and 3 are not ok
the 1 is also false... if they see no future... they cant waste a spot

im wondering the strategy

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11-09-2010, 12:51 AM
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"Si personne ne le réclame, il fera partie de notre équipe de la même façon et on continuera à travailler avec lui."

Martin said that Boyd will not go to AHL
so cant recall a player. 2 and 3 are not ok
the 1 is also false... if they see no future... they cant waste a spot

im wondering the strategy
I'm pretty sure he ment that only if requirement number 1 is met does the second stands.

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11-09-2010, 12:54 AM
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I don't believe JM and PG don't know if he someone will claim him...I heard there is a kinda ''gentleman rule'' between GMs....if you want to claim someone , you have to call the organisation before to make sure eveything is ok.

I don't believe the let's put him on the waiver and let's see what happen, they know what they are doing.

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11-09-2010, 12:55 AM
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don't you have two weeks to send a player down after they cleared waivers? (and after clearing waivers they can still play for your team during those two weeks)

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11-09-2010, 01:13 AM
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don't you have two weeks to send a player down after they cleared waivers? (and after clearing waivers they can still play for your team during those two weeks)
not sure about the timeframe but yes, the said player is still part of the team and he can play.

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11-09-2010, 01:20 AM
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I have been hearing rumblings alll day that a "new" player will be coming to MTL shortly. What I am gathering by all this is that IF Dustin Boyd gets claimed, something else will get done in the following hours? days? something like that. I am pretty sure the Habs management know that someone will claim him. I have been hearing Bergeron for a while now. But my bet would be on Billy Guerin.

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11-09-2010, 05:13 AM
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Seems that the move is just for Boyd to be happier if possible. Unless a trade is in the works, calling back somebody from Hamilton doesn't seem what they have in mind. So the idea is to let other teams pick him so it would mean he'd play more. That's it. We love to see guys being happy.

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11-09-2010, 08:53 AM
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Seems that the move is just for Boyd to be happier if possible. Unless a trade is in the works, calling back somebody from Hamilton doesn't seem what they have in mind. So the idea is to let other teams pick him so it would mean he'd play more. That's it. We love to see guys being happy.
lol

We work really hard on making players happy by trading or waiving them, but forget to make players who stay here happy ...

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11-09-2010, 08:57 AM
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We're making room for Cheechoo.
Why are you making toy train noises?

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11-09-2010, 09:46 AM
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He has until 12:00 today to be claimed right?

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11-09-2010, 09:47 AM
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I think the reasoning for this is that once he passes waivers, they then have the flexibility to send him down if needed without going back on waivers...from what I understand.

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11-09-2010, 09:59 AM
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He has until 12:00 today to be claimed right?
Yes around 12.15 we should know if he cleared or not

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11-09-2010, 10:02 AM
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The fact is, the Canadiens have a glut of young centers about whom decisions have to be made in the near future. Next year, all of Maxwell, White, and Desharnais would need to go through waivers to be sent to Hamilton. You'll also have Engqvist who will have completed a full season in the AHL and looks to be a potential very good shutdown centerman, and Leblanc entering his Hamilton rookie season. Not to mention Pacioretty and Palushaj tearing it up on the wings.

It's nice to have signed Boyd and Halpern and had the luxury of seeing who would perform for us, but some decisions are going to have to be made looking ahead. Totally in favour of letting Boyd go to give an audition to one of the Bulldogs at this point.

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11-09-2010, 10:15 AM
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Now I really hope he gets claim by others to see our next move from our great GM PG.

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The fact is, the Canadiens have a glut of young centers about whom decisions have to be made in the near future. Next year, all of Maxwell, White, and Desharnais would need to go through waivers to be sent to Hamilton. You'll also have Engqvist who will have completed a full season in the AHL and looks to be a potential very good shutdown centerman, and Leblanc entering his Hamilton rookie season. Not to mention Pacioretty and Palushaj tearing it up on the wings.

It's nice to have signed Boyd and Halpern and had the luxury of seeing who would perform for us, but some decisions are going to have to be made looking ahead. Totally in favour of letting Boyd go to give an audition to one of the Bulldogs at this point.
I have a feeling that since we have so many potential NHL ready players next season, we're going to be shipping some of them away. Teams will get rid of players they feel can have an impact elsewhere but can't fit into their own line-up.

I'm not good at predictions but I'm thinking that Desharnais, Pacioretty and Engqvist will all be shipped off. I don't like it but we don't have room for 6 rookies next season.

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11-09-2010, 10:32 AM
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I have a feeling that since we have so many potential NHL ready players next season, we're going to be shipping some of them away. Teams will get rid of players they feel can have an impact elsewhere but can't fit into their own line-up.

I'm not good at predictions but I'm thinking that Desharnais, Pacioretty and Engqvist will all be shipped off. I don't like it but we don't have room for 6 rookies next season.
Trading a couple of prospects and maybe a roster player for a true top 6-player would be a dream, but definitely easier said than done.

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I have a feeling that since we have so many potential NHL ready players next season, we're going to be shipping some of them away. Teams will get rid of players they feel can have an impact elsewhere but can't fit into their own line-up.

I'm not good at predictions but I'm thinking that Desharnais, Pacioretty and Engqvist will all be shipped off. I don't like it but we don't have room for 6 rookies next season.
Quote, I think you are on to something - there is a wealth of prospects now in Hamilton. At least 7 forwards and 3 D who are likely to get a shot somewhere either this year or next. Not all can make it in Montreal and some may not make it at all but are likely to be given the shot.

LW - Pacioretty
C - Desharnais
C- Engqvist
C - Maxwell
RW - Avtsin
RW - Palushaj
RW - White
D - Nash
D - Weber
D - Carle

Personnally, I hope we retain at least Nash, Avtsin, White and Pacioretty but with the possible exception of Avtsin all are expendable for the right price.

I would like to see more grit and size in out bottom six but obviously some of the above will have to make it elsewhere as I can't see the team carrying more than 3 or 4 rookies, if that.

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I don't believe the let's put him on the waiver and let's see what happen, they know what they are doing.
Did you hear the short press conference/scrum yesterday with Martin. If he knows what he is doing he is sure doing a lousy job of making in appear that way.

They asked him what the purpose was of putting Boyd on waivers - he said: "There is no purpose - the purpose is to put him on waivers". He said that the rationale behind the move was to make the team better, when reporters pressed him about how exactly it would make the team better he basically had no answer.

Its actually one of the most inept sound bites you will ever hear from our coach. It left me wondering - where is Gauthier? Why wasn't he in front of the media answering those questions, especially when Martin was so obviously unprepared to answer them.

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