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11-10-2010, 02:40 PM
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I'll tell you what i hate. I use the centre ice online from them and they seem to consider me watching an edmonton, vancouver or calgary game a local market game. WTF is wrong with them?? They black them out on their own website because of it. they are the NHL FFS!!!, and should have exclusive rights to all games regardless of TV deals ( who gives them the right to force me to have cable or satellite TV?? ) ALSO, just because it MAY be available if i pay for specialty channels, doesn't mean that they are available to me. I have basic cable so i DON'T have them!!!! if they want to use the fact that i may have access to them if i want to pay extra, then technically speaking i should be blacked out of 80% of NHL games because i can buy enough specialty channels to get out of market channels which cover games too!!!!!


It's the first and last time i sign up with them, because my rants and others in my position will obviously go on deaf ears.
One word: Refund

My dad paid for the service and found this out the hard way and he got Bell to refund him for it. (Wasn't online but center ice via Expressvu)

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11-10-2010, 08:23 PM
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One word: Refund

My dad paid for the service and found this out the hard way and he got Bell to refund him for it. (Wasn't online but center ice via Expressvu)
i'm considering it. the straw that breaks the camels back is if i get a habs game blacked out for the same local market reasoning.

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11-11-2010, 12:11 AM
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Ever since the more recent Flash Updates mine has been ****** on all computers whether it's at the office, friends houses whatever.

It isn't that it freezes every 5 seconds. For me it's that I'll be watching a video and then suddenly the video will freeze and the audio continues. (This is on full screen mode)

Only thing is it never catches up. Every time it happens I have to exit full screen and go back in. Happens on youtube sometimes, other sites all the time especially TSN's site. It's just damn annoying. It doesn't halt the stream it's just the video seems to stop feeding while the audio continues. Simple exiting of full screen mode fixes it, it's just annoying when you just did that 30 seconds ago and it happens again.

No real method to the madness either, sometimes it'll happen 10 seconds later sometimes it won't happen in an hour.

This only started happening to me in more recent versions of flash
Yeah that's it, exactly, audio continues, video freezes. I think for me it's happening even in small screen mode too.

Flash is a nightmare. They release new versions every week, other soft wares are dependent on it, (even some CAD software!) if they change something it often screws up other software too, and half the time I can't download it on a PC. On Mac it's easy...

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11-11-2010, 12:14 AM
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Nevermind the fact that OS X never crashes and manages ram more efficiently than any OS on the market since it launched.

Nevermind the fact that they never break down.

Nevermind the fact that they've had intel processors for about 4 years and can run whatever OS you want if necessary on boot, not emulation.

uh huh....

And for the OP: it's NHL.com, it isn't on your end.
Exactly. Macs are friggin great the last few years...believe me, it's not my Mac. By the way, my PC at work takes at least 3 minutes to shut down, more if 'this program is not responding' My macbook pro takes 1 second to shut down, every time, and about 5 seconds to start.

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11-11-2010, 12:28 AM
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Yeah because the hardware provided by the motherboard magnufacturer and intel is far superior in a mac than another rig

No offense as I normally dig most of your posts but this is the kind of blatant mac fanboyism that gives mac their pretentious name in the first place. Mac people are just unwilling to accept that Mac/Apple are anything less than just good. A lot of companies make good rigs and laptops dude. Apple uses the same components as everyone else they just "optimize" it to increase the price tag.

Intel processors for 4 years.... I fail to see how that's a tribute to them as I've had intel processors for years and yeah my rigs were better than what mac offered then to. I mean really the fact that it's only been 4 years is pitiful, not sure I would use that as a way to compliment Apple or their decisions.

Look Apple is a good company, the only difference is they're good at marketing and they have gimmicks. This is what makes them better than a lot of other comparable companies in terms of popularity etc. That doesn't make them better in terms of the actual OS or hardware at hand. MacOS is a major pain in the ass if you ask me, never been a fan and have always been a windows or linux guy. I can admit Microsoft has made some ****** operating systems like Windows ME.

Guess what though? 2k Vista and 7 all say hi. This isn't 1995 anymore where you can blatantly say Mac > Windows and have people be naive enough to eat it up. Windows has come a very long way while Mac has stuck to gimmicks and marketing. Microsoft doesn't need to market windows any more than they have they already control the entire business sector of the market and a vast majority of the home users as well. There's a reason Mac only has a niche market in the computer world and anyone thinking otherwise good for you I'm glad you love your mac and I'm happy you enjoy the Apple products you paid for but don't bash and expect people just to eat it up like it's actually truth. With a couple free software choices that you can make Windows is even better than it already is.

Plus a huge part of the reason Mac is so much more stable than windows is because it's used far less. Known fact that people who make spyware and viruses do so for windows not just because it's easier but because it can infect 10x the amount of people. Why even bother with Mac that really would affect 10% of computer users. Even if you check sites the mac browsers are used to view these sites at less than 10%. I guess some of them are using Firefox for mac??? Either way it's not a huge portion of the market. People who do Denial of Service type stuff do it for whichever OS they can inflict more damage upon. Just like when linux servers were being used for hosting web servers mail servers and all that other fun stuff exploits started to basically pop up almost over night. If Mac were to be useful for hosting or using as a work related OS maybe it would be the same for them, problem is they aren't and are only really penetrating a very niche market of people who basically like Apple because they like Apple.



It's funny cause lately on my home rig I've been having issues with lag all of the sudden. I quickly realized flash runs an exe in the background when in use that was taking up like 400mb of RAM! Now I only have like 4gb of ram and it's Vista and this piece of **** is taking up all that ram to the point where my quadcore with 4 gigs of ram is lagging? I've never had PC lag really before on this machine and it's pretty old too. But when their dumb little app bugs up it drains all my resources.

I usually wind up having to end task it and Firefox which by then is like 400mb of ram as well. it seems like the flash is causing it in FF cause as long as I don't watch videos ever it seems okay. The memory usage is just an upwards line too. It never seems to fluctuate/go down just up... Flash On my work PC it seems SVCHOST.exe gains a **** load of ram usage when I use flash but at home it's a different EXE. Meanwhile I'm on the same version of Windows AND Flash...

Can't speak for how good it is on mac but honestly Flash sucks balls.
Thank you!!!!!! You just saved me a good 5 minutes of typing.

Btw I studied graphic design and worked with both macs and pcs. I've seen windows grash, but HAVE seen macs crash as well. And when they crash, there's no alt + ctrl + del. They become totally unresponsive.

I have windows 7 now, and have absolutely zero problems with viruses, stability, and speed. Please mac fan boys, find other reasons why mac > windows.

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11-11-2010, 05:31 AM
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All I gotta say is it's how the internet works. I run a small streaming site myself (on a 100mbit unmetered dedicated server) and I get my own share of complaints. Quick example: my server is located in Chicago and my users in Singapore/Philippines/Australia cannot get a stable stream no matter what. Is it because my server sucks? No. It's due to distance and latency. Because they are so far from the stream server their latency is 250+ ms and cannot sustain even half a megabit consistently (video stream is 1mbit Flash H264). The only way to fix this is to use a CDN (Content Delivery Network). Big name ones are Akamai and Limelight.

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11-11-2010, 06:09 AM
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Sorry others have the problem but I'm also glad to see that I'm not the only one. Game Center is very frustrating right now. I'll watch a game and like others have said the frame freezes and then goes through some kind of hiccup sequence until it gets back on track. Granted my computer at work seems to handle Game Center much better than my home computer but it too can get the hiccups. It's bothersome because I really enjoy watching and re-watching games to analyze a series of plays. Right not that isn't much to fun and I try to refrain from using any of the nifty features.

And generally speaking I've always found the NHL site to be frustrating to load. There's just too much on it I guess. IDK.......I'm not very computer savvy to begin with but I don't think I should have to be just to visit a site.

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10-14-2011, 07:50 AM
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I'm running a brand new Macbook Pro. I have a very good internet connection. But NHL.com video highlights just absolutely suck. The stream pauses every 5 seconds. Last year no problem. This year? Awful.

I've submitted 3 complaints to them with no result, or even an answer.

Sorry to complain, But I live very far away, and I want to see Habs highlights that don't pause every 5 seconds for 2 seconds.

I used to rip NHL vids as .FLV files, but they've stopped that one.

God it pi-sses me off. The NHL wants to promote hockey, and keep fans happy, yet the retards who run the site can't produce high quality streaming highlights, and don't even bother to answer e-mails from loyal fans.

WTF? Is anyone else having this problem?

Please advise guys.

It is some time since this thread was created, but I still have the same problem.

I have done some checking of waht can cause this problem.

The problem is just located to viewing NHL "Game highlights" (on nhl.com) It is not seen this problem in "quick picks".

The problem is not seen on my computer at work(tested with both wireless and wired network)

The same computer as used at work (laptop dell Latitude d830, XP)
is used at home. The problem shows only when I use wireless at home (wireless router Dlink DIR 655). The problem is not shown when I use wired ethernet conn. to the same router.

I started to think that the wireless router had some bad setup, but I have tried many different setups, but nothing helps. Distance from router has nothing to do with it. My internet conn is 15Mbit down, 4 Mbit up.

Anyone with the same experience?

Since the thread has not been active for several months, maybe someone got a fix for this problem?

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10-14-2011, 08:30 AM
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Only thing I can think of is do your windows updates, do your flash updates, do your firefox/explorer/whatever you use updates.

This problem stopped happening to me for a while now and considering I use TSN quite frequently it would have happened again by now if it were still a current issue.

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Only thing I can think of is do your windows updates, do your flash updates, do your firefox/explorer/whatever you use updates.

This problem stopped happening to me for a while now and considering I use TSN quite frequently it would have happened again by now if it were still a current issue.
Wow, a bump of an old thred of mine....interesting.

Rant begins:

NOTHING has improved.

This is what I've learned since then: Speaking only re Macs. Good old Steve J was determined to kill flash. And he was right. Flash sucks on Macs. End of. They blah blah about why, but it is inexcusable in 2011 that the default internet video software would suck on any system. Absolutely inexcusable. Mac should not have to adjust for Flash, Flash should adjust for Mac.

Jobs has already killed flash anyway, by refusing to use it on the I-phone. Absolute genius, god rest his soul.

Oh, and to you guys who do this all the time, don't bother defending PCs, and attacking Mac. Flash sucks big giant balls, it sucks giant balls on PC too, and it needs to be replaced on the internet. Stop making this a PC VS Mac issue. This is a competence issue. It is 2011. Flash should work perfectly on ANY sytem, or Web designers should stop using it. End of. And Flash facks up other software all the time also, on both PC and Mac platforms. It"s a bit fat stupid software.

Flash sends ''updates" every week to my PC at work, and they never ever download properly. Every single week they update. My god.

NHL and especially TSN web designers are retards. And lazy. They went 100% Flash, and their video sucks totally because of it. They have let down a huge number of users on Macs, big time.

I'm really pissed at the TSN and NHL sites for seemingly not even understanding this. They will though, when they realize that no one can watch anything they produce on their I phone at all.

We have to wait until responsible web designers stop depending on Flash, that's all.

Oh, and Flash and websites that use flash: Why did you stop .FLV ripping? Unreal. At least I used to be able to rip the Habs highlights and watch a **** 2 minutes of a game I cannot stream because it's 9 AM here and I'm at work. You think I'm going to pay you or something? Absolute *********.

2011, and I cant watch Habs highlights at all without problems, on a superb computer with a perfect internet connection.

How should I put this? Fack of Flash, and every site that uses it.

Flash is **** beyond belief. It's the Internet Cancer.

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10-14-2011, 10:27 AM
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Only thing I can think of is do your windows updates, do your flash updates, do your firefox/explorer/whatever you use updates.

This problem stopped happening to me for a while now and considering I use TSN quite frequently it would have happened again by now if it were still a current issue.
NONE of what you suggest works for thousands of people. I have tried. And why the FACK should I have to work that hard to see a 2 minute bloody video without interruptions every 3 seconds?

Users should be asking far more of video providers on the internet. We shouldn't be downloading ****** 3rd party software, changing browsers, updating every 2 days.

Doesn't anyone realize show truly ****** this is? Flash is ****. Get it through your head. You should not have to work so hard because they won't.

Try this on: I just bought a new car, with one small chip in it that causes all the problems I'm having. The car company, which is excellent, is forced to use that one small chip because there are no others available.

Because of this one chip, to keep the engine running I have to download new software every 3 days, and change my fuel mix every week. And I have to buy parts from disreputable small companies to deal with this ****** chip.

Think not right? The automotive industry would correct this problem in one second. They'd stop using the one small ****** chip. Get it? That's what web designers have to do too: Stop using Flash.

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Just found this thread googling around. I can barely watch the videos on NHL.com these days. I have a good PC and all updated and its just ridiculous.

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NHL.com 's video part needs to redesigned. It's awful.

- it uses flash, yeah, but quality could still be much better

- there are way too many advertisements, and its always the same one (every 3 clips, really?)

- kicks you out of full screen mode repeatedly

-sometimes they dont even bother showing a replay from multiple angles

The NHL should ask itself if it's selling hockey or Dove soap for men. The video section of their site is rather embarassing.

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All I gotta say is it's how the internet works. I run a small streaming site myself (on a 100mbit unmetered dedicated server) and I get my own share of complaints. Quick example: my server is located in Chicago and my users in Singapore/Philippines/Australia cannot get a stable stream no matter what. Is it because my server sucks? No. It's due to distance and latency. Because they are so far from the stream server their latency is 250+ ms and cannot sustain even half a megabit consistently (video stream is 1mbit Flash H264). The only way to fix this is to use a CDN (Content Delivery Network). Big name ones are Akamai and Limelight.
No, it's because you use Flash for video on your site, like all ****** sites do.

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No, it's because you use Flash for video on your site, like all ****** sites do.
you talk the talk, but do you even know what the flash alternative is?

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I'm really pissed at the TSN and NHL sites for seemingly not even understanding this. They will though, when they realize that no one can watch anything they produce on their I phone at all.
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Funny because I watch Habs highlights on my iPhone more than I do on my computer..

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