People have to remember he is still a kid...and from past expiriences kids *uck up. I hope people don't bash this kid because he is a very extremely talented hockey player and from what I have seen in interviews a really nice down to earth kid.
Let me get it straight... You are suggesting we take it easy on Heatley because "he is a very extremely talented hockey player"? You've got to be kidding me...
Dany made a terrible mistake. He will pay a price for it. He may be convicted of a crime. He even may go to jail. He will never be seen as the same person by the fans. He will deal with emotional aftermath of injuring a friend. Talented hockey player or not, good kid or not - he will face the consequences of his actions.
Heatley will have to obtain a waiver if he's convicted of a crime or he won't be allowed to reenter the USA from Canada. Customs isn't going to let him reenter when it's a well publicized case they should know about, or they'll be on the hook if Heatley has another accident. Whether a waiver is granted depends on the seriousness of the conviction, and who's willing to take the heat if he has another accident. I can't imagine him being deported, but the reentry issue is serious. Having spent 2 glorious summers working for US Customs at the Peace Bridge, I can tell you that I would not let him reenter without a waiver.
"If you have a criminal record, no matter how minor or how long ago the offence, you may be refused entry to the United States… Under U.S. law, a pardon issued by Canadian authorities is not recognized for purposes of entry into the United States." "U.S. ports of entry are computerized and connected to a centralized database. Information is readily available on criminal convictions in both Canada and the United States. Even though you may have entered the United States without hindrance in the past, you could run into difficulty if your record shows a criminal conviction or a previous denial of entry. Attempting to gain entry without a waiver could result in several weeks of detention at a USINS facility." "If you have a criminal record, you should contact one of the USINS ports of entry well in advance of travel to the United States." http://www.accmontreal.ca/border.html#usa16
People have to remember he is still a kid...and from past expiriences kids *uck up. I hope people don't bash this kid because he is a very extremely talented hockey player and from what I have seen in interviews a really nice down to earth kid.
I am not knocking Snyder but people always tend to make someone with major injuries in a same vehicle car crash a victim and the driver a villian.
This is, bar none, the dumbest thing I have ever read on these boards.
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As soon as snyder stepped into the Ferrari do you think he was saying "hey Danny make sure you do the speed limit"...no he wanted to ride in a ferrari...you know what I mean.
thanks. This is what I thought. He may be like stephen ames and bob probert. Well known athletes whose careers were side-tracked a little because of immigration issues.
This is, bar none, the dumbest thing I have ever read on these boards.
I take that back. This is.
I would agree, although IMO alot of the stuff that's being said about this situation is idiotic. I think Heatley is getting off EXTREMLY easy in alot of people's minds around here.
Heatley will have to obtain a waiver if he's convicted of a crime or he won't be allowed to reenter the USA from Canada. Customs isn't going to let him reenter when it's a well publicized case they should know about, or they'll be on the hook if Heatley has another accident. Whether a waiver is granted depends on the seriousness of the conviction, and who's willing to take the heat if he has another accident. I can't imagine him being deported, but the reentry issue is serious. Having spent 2 glorious summers working for US Customs at the Peace Bridge, I can tell you that I would not let him reenter without a waiver.
"If you have a criminal record, no matter how minor or how long ago the offence, you may be refused entry to the United States… Under U.S. law, a pardon issued by Canadian authorities is not recognized for purposes of entry into the United States." "U.S. ports of entry are computerized and connected to a centralized database. Information is readily available on criminal convictions in both Canada and the United States. Even though you may have entered the United States without hindrance in the past, you could run into difficulty if your record shows a criminal conviction or a previous denial of entry. Attempting to gain entry without a waiver could result in several weeks of detention at a USINS facility." "If you have a criminal record, you should contact one of the USINS ports of entry well in advance of travel to the United States." http://www.accmontreal.ca/border.html#usa16
Good info. Heatley will likely get probation considering the seriousness of the injuries if he doesn't do jail time. That certainly puts him in the situation Buffaloed describes. Having read quite a bit like everyone else about Heatley I'm guessing that is the least of his worries right now next to the health of his teammate and friend.
For everyone who does not see the point to my post...I am not saying forgive him because he is a hockey player...all I am saying is cut him a little slack because he is still a kid...If Snyder was not laid up in the hospital right now you guys would not be so harsh with your criticisms towards him.
As I know it is also mandatory to wear your seatbelt and Snyder obviously was not wearing his...I understand Heatley faces all types of charges...the law is the law and I understand that but I heard someone saying the Snyders familly should file a civil suit...typicall american always quick to sue someone.
Heatly is a nice kid I have seen him play hockey since his days in junior...he was always polite and down to earth when he was interviewed...All I am saying is give the kid a little compassion because he will need after the events that occured.
And no I do not beleive athletes should get a break and for that matter should not face stiffer penalties either.
Someone else above saying he should rot in jial...for what speeding and losing control...holy **** thank god you dončt run the country I would probably get 2 years for J walking.
I hope both players have a speedy recovery and that Snyder is able to play hockey again
Since the point of the criminal justice system is basically to punish and rehabilitate 'criminals', I'm betting that, unless a judge/jury is particularly draconian, Dany may be considered to have already 'served his time' between knee/jaw rehab, impact on career/earnings and mental anguish. What would society gain by putting him behind bars?
For everyone who does not see the point to my post...I am not saying forgive him because he is a hockey player...all I am saying is cut him a little slack because he is still a kid...If Snyder was not laid up in the hospital right now you guys would not be so harsh with your criticisms towards him.
As I know it is also mandatory to wear your seatbelt and Snyder obviously was not wearing his...I understand Heatley faces all types of charges...the law is the law and I understand that but I heard someone saying the Snyders familly should file a civil suit...typicall american always quick to sue someone.
Heatly is a nice kid I have seen him play hockey since his days in junior...he was always polite and down to earth when he was interviewed...All I am saying is give the kid a little compassion because he will need after the events that occured.
And no I do not beleive athletes should get a break and for that matter should not face stiffer penalties either.
Someone else above saying he should rot in jial...for what speeding and losing control...holy **** thank god you dončt run the country I would probably get 2 years for J walking.
I hope both players have a speedy recovery and that Snyder is able to play hockey again
First off:
Snyder may be living the rest of his life wearing a helmet and having full time nursing care. The chances of him playing hockey in the NHL at this point are not good at all. At this point, I'd call it a pipe dream. This is going to sound brutal and blunt, but you don't seem to be getting it, so here goes:
Snyder is more likely to play hockey in the Special Olympics than the NHL.
Second:
If Snyder wasn't hurt, of course people would be cutting Heatley a lot more slack. The fact of the matter is that Snyder did get hurt, very severely. The fault for this (unless some crazy event occured, like a malfunction of the car, or Snyder putting his foot on the gas pedal) lies with Heatley, and ONLY with Heatley. He was the one in control of the car at the time of the crash.
Third:
He's not a kid. He's in his early 20's, he went to college, I'm sure he was smart enough to realize what happens when you crash a car at 80mph on a winding suburban road.
Fourth:
Snyder may have been wearing his seatbelt. Did you see the photos of the wreck? The passenger side seatbelt is ripped in half. This was not a little fender bender here. The car was absolutely devastated.
Fifth:
If I'm right (and I hope I'm not, I hope Dan Snyder has a beats the odds and has a great recovery) about the medical situation, the Snyder family is going to be paying for this for the rest of Dan Snyder's life. A civil suit in this situation would make perfectly logical sense.
Since the point of the criminal justice system is basically to punish and rehabilitate 'criminals', I'm betting that, unless a judge/jury is particularly draconian, Dany may be considered to have already 'served his time' between knee/jaw rehab, impact on career/earnings and mental anguish. What would society gain by putting him behind bars?
Other people's lives won't be threatened by his reckless driving.
So if someone kills someone else, if they feel bad (mental anguish), they should get off?
