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11-12-2010, 06:59 PM
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utter nonsense. If the caps go down in the first or second round, you really think they are going to put their cap dollars into the same lineup as last year?
I think the point is just that they have more then enough room to lock up Semin and Laich. Sure they could let them walk but considering how weak the FA market is, I wouldn't bet on it. It's a lot easier to can Boudreau then it is to make substantial roster changes through FA.

How long have we been hearing about this huge advantage we'd have in the summer of 2011 to sign UFA's. Yet week by week we've seen Koivu, Bergeron, Chara and Backes locked up. Imo we'll be lucky to see Richards, Vokoun and Bryz make it to July 1st.


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11-12-2010, 07:00 PM
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These are the upcoming RFAs at the forward position:

Steven Stamkos
Zach Parise
Jeff Carter
Kyle Okposo
T.J Oshie
Dustin Byfuglien

Anyone think Ottawa could make a move for one of them? Byfuglien might be the only one that's possible since the other teams are likely to hold on to them (I'd love to get Okposo with the Senators).

What does everybody think?

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11-12-2010, 07:09 PM
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These are the upcoming RFAs at the forward position:

Steven Stamkos
Zach Parise
Jeff Carter
Kyle Okposo
T.J Oshie
Dustin Byfuglien

Anyone think Ottawa could make a move for one of them? Byfuglien might be the only one that's possible since the other teams are likely to hold on to them (I'd love to get Okposo with the Senators).

What does everybody think?
RFA offer sheets only really make sense if your organization is strong from top to bottom with a bright future, LA comes to mind. I just don't think we can afford to be giving up first rounders right now.

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These are the upcoming RFAs at the forward position:

Steven Stamkos
Zach Parise
Jeff Carter
Kyle Okposo
T.J Oshie
Dustin Byfuglien

Anyone think Ottawa could make a move for one of them? Byfuglien might be the only one that's possible since the other teams are likely to hold on to them (I'd love to get Okposo with the Senators).

What does everybody think?
no. those guys wont be traded and if they are their return will be too high.


no offer sheet either.

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11-12-2010, 07:10 PM
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This team is in no position to be giving up draft picks. Seriously, we're a middle of the pack team with an aging core. We're closer to a rebuild than a cup and you want to give up draft picks?

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11-12-2010, 08:30 PM
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These are the upcoming RFAs at the forward position:

Steven Stamkos
Zach Parise
Jeff Carter
Kyle Okposo
T.J Oshie
Dustin Byfuglien

Anyone think Ottawa could make a move for one of them? Byfuglien might be the only one that's possible since the other teams are likely to hold on to them (I'd love to get Okposo with the Senators).

What does everybody think?
It's too early to talk about this, they have all year to sign an extension and they most likely will since the Dustin Penner rfa singing incident a few years ago.

If somehow someway Stamkos is not signed, offer him Kovalchuk type money

$100 mil over 10 years

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11-12-2010, 08:33 PM
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I think you will see Penner in Ottawa before the year is out. Just a guess.

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11-12-2010, 08:41 PM
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I think you will see Penner in Ottawa before the year is out. Just a guess.
if any deal is made with Edmonton, he will be included

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11-12-2010, 08:42 PM
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Brooks Laich would be ideal, but I don't really see it happening.

Tim Connolly wouldn't be a bad option for a 2nd line centre, if he can stay healthy.


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11-12-2010, 08:45 PM
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if any deal is made with Edmonton, he will be included
Ottawa is definatly missing a player like Penner on the top 2 lines. Would love to see him on the other side of Spezza, probably one of the best wingers he could get in The NHL to open up space for him and put in a lot of garbage in front of the net.

I absolutely love Penner's game.

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11-12-2010, 08:50 PM
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This team is in no position to be giving up draft picks. Seriously, we're a middle of the pack team with an aging core. We're closer to a rebuild than a cup and you want to give up draft picks?
I'm not big on giving up picks either but if the right circumstances come along I'd be ok with it.
Just trying mix it up a little bit.

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I think Ottawa might be able to make some trades with Philly seeing as they are close to the cap and need to resign Carter, Leino, Carcillo, and Zherdev with around 7 million left under the cap. The cap is going to go up but not enough to fit all these guys in.

Foligno and a 4th

for Zherdev.

Only if we could get an extension because it would suck if he left at the end of the season. Playing on our 2nd line would be a great improvement seeing as he is capable of getting 60 points. He is not getting the ice time in Philly and at 26 is still young enough to improve.

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11-12-2010, 10:19 PM
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This team is in no position to be giving up draft picks. Seriously, we're a middle of the pack team with an aging core. We're closer to a rebuild than a cup and you want to give up draft picks?
Totally agree.

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Stamkos - 15 Years - 90 milliion...

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11-12-2010, 10:34 PM
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Next season, Add toughness, Grit, Speed, Tenacity, a bit more youth

Ben Eager - $1.0-1.3million
Brooks Laich - $ 4.5-5.0million
Mark Stuart - $2.0 -3.0million ...to be honest, unsure of his value league wise, but really like his game a lot.

Laich - Spezza - Alfredsson
Regin - Fisher - Michalek
Eager - Kelly - Butler
Smith - Winchester - Neil

Phillips - Gonchar
Stuart - Karlsson
Cowen - Carkner

Now this is a fast, skilled, tough team


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11-12-2010, 10:39 PM
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Next season, Add toughness, Grit, Speed, Tenacity, a bit more youth

Ben Eager - $1.0-1.3million
Brooks Laich - $ 4.5-5.0million

Laich - Spezza - Alfredsson
Regin - Fisher - Michalek
Eager - Kelly - Butler
Smith - Winchester - Neil
No way we pay Laich $5 mil but...

Regin-Spezza-Alfredsson
Michalek-Laich-Moulson/Upshall
Eager-Fisher-Butler
Ruutu-Kelly-Neil

Nice line-up. Seems like a pipe-dream though.


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Next season, Add toughness, Grit, Speed, Tenacity, a bit more youth

Ben Eager - $1.0-1.3million
Brooks Laich - $ 4.5-5.0million

Laich - Spezza - Alfredsson
Regin - Fisher - Michalek
Eager - Kelly - Butler
Smith - Winchester - Neil


LOL i rather keep Kovy at 5 for another year then Brooks Laich for 5

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11-12-2010, 10:41 PM
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Brooks Laich would be ideal, but I don't really see it happening.

Tim Connolly wouldn't be a bad option for a 2nd line centre, if he can stay healthy.
You're joking right? Right? Tim Connolly is incredibly overrated. If anyone hates Fisher as a 2nd line centre, Connolly would be a frigging nightmare. He's basically Kyle Wellwood, only as fragile as Pascale Leclaire. Furthermore, he's in a contract year and he's playing like garbage. This is the time when he should be playing his best, and he's coming out with straight-up awful efforts.

I hope to god that Murray avoids Connolly like he's a herpes-infested hooker.

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You're joking right? Right? Tim Connolly is incredibly overrated. If anyone hates Fisher as a 2nd line centre, Connolly would be a frigging nightmare. He's basically Kyle Wellwood, only as fragile as Pascale Leclaire. Furthermore, he's in a contract year and he's playing like garbage. This is the time when he should be playing his best, and he's coming out with straight-up awful efforts.

I hope to god that Murray avoids Connolly like he's a herpes-infested hooker.
Yeah, not at his current contract though. Something like a short-term deal under $3 mil if Murray can't get anything else done. Doubtful though.

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11-12-2010, 10:52 PM
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In other news, I've heard a couple of times now that rumours out of Jersey are that Parise is unhappy. I would literally trade just about anyone (and any pick), short of Spezza and Alfie to get him. I honestly think he is a top 10, arguably top 5 or 6 forward in the league.

With Jersey in cap hell, and struggling as they are, I'd be contacting Lou every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

The UFA crop this upcoming year is terrible, but the RFAs are straight-up sexy. I'd target them with trades.

Let's face it, this Sens team probably isn't going to win this year, but they have a good opportunity to do some damage next year, and they should really go for it.

I'd start with an offer of something like this, and see where it goes:

Michalek, Wiercioch, Lee (one can only hope!), 1st, 5th

for

Parise


Michalek can somewhat fill the void on the top line in NJ.
Wiercioch fills an organizational need for NJ.
Lee is a toss in because any self-respecting Sens fan will do anything to get rid of him (Pizza anyone?)
1st is because Parise is that good
5th for fun…and to sweeten the deal a little.

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LOL i rather keep Kovy at 5 for another year then Brooks Laich for 5
He's going to get within that range of 4.5 - 5.0.

Look at Malone and Backes Contracts as comparable, unless he takes a discount to stay with Washington. But as a UFA he will command a lot of interest and that's what he will get.

Great team player, kills penalties, roughs it up in corners and in front of the net. He's capable of 50-60 points and he's a great defensive presence.

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He's going to get within that range of 4.5 - 5.0.

Look at Malone and Backes Contracts as comparable, unless he takes a discount to stay with Washington. But as a UFA he will command a lot of interest and that's what he will get.

Great team player, kills penalties, roughs it up in corners and in front of the net. He's capable of 50-60 points and he's a great defensive presence.
he could get 60 pts but one a heavy offensive team. he is nothing more than a tweener like Fisher.

Rather make a deal ie Penner.

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11-12-2010, 11:34 PM
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Yeah, not at his current contract though. Something like a short-term deal under $3 mil if Murray can't get anything else done. Doubtful though.
That's a stupid thing to say. I'd hate for Murray to pull a Burke-type move and make a move for the sake of making a move (and to get yourself in the news). Sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something.

There isn't a single player in the top 6 on the Sens roster that I would replace with Connolly.

I'm actually shocked that he was even brought up. The guy is a complete waste of a roster spot because he easily misses 40+ games a season.

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To get Parise you would have to start with Karlsson and add.... quite a bit more..

I'm not ready to do that when we already have a #1 center..


I would REALLY like JVR

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To get Parise you would have to start with Karlsson and add.... quite a bit more..

I'm not ready to do that when we already have a #1 center..


I would REALLY like JVR
Trades aren't what they used to be. If Parise really isn't happy, his value drops quite a bit.

Heatley went for nothing because he wanted out.
Kaberle wasn't traded because no one offered what Burke thought he was worth. No one would offer a quality forward AND a 1st round pick, but that is what all sorts of fans and "experts" were saying.
Thornton went for nothing.
Kovalchuck and Hossa (deadline deals are different…but they are still trades) went for less than what I put in my offer for Parise.

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