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11-12-2010, 09:38 AM
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IIHF official 2011 Media Guide & Record Book

Does somebody this book?

It is worth to buy?

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Already getting it ordered for Christmas.

But from what I read of it, it sounds like an IIHF version of Total Hockey, what with the full stats of every international player ever, something I've been wanting for a long time.

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Already getting it ordered for Christmas.

But from what I read of it, it sounds like an IIHF version of Total Hockey, what with the full stats of every international player ever, something I've been wanting for a long time.
Whoa boy. Now I'm interested.

This is not just some "media guide"!

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Whoa boy. Now I'm interested.

This is not just some "media guide"!
No media guide I've ever known has 600+ pages, and results of every international tournament (not just IIHF games).

I'm so excited to see this book in 6 weeks.

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I’m sure this is a fine book, but in a year or two from now – the ultimate Player Media Guide will hopefully be available.

The work is underway at the moment and will most likely be released in several volumes (3000 + pages).
This Player Media Guide will have tournament stats dating back to 1910 for every single player that appeared in the Olympics, European Championships, World Championships, LIHG-Championships (more prestigious than the EC tournaments of that time), Canada Cup and World Cup.

Some of the features in this A to Z player register will include:

- Player stats for the European Championships [1910-32], LIHG-Championships [1912-14], World Championships [1930-], Olympics [1920-], Canada Cup [1976-91], World Cup [1996-2004]

- Short biographies for the majority of players, with background info, style of play, playing positions etc

- Date and place of birth, as well as death

- Headshots for thousands of players

- Early statistics have been carefully researched and include assists - these have never before been researched or published and are of course unofficial (Assists did not become official until the 1950s)

- World Championship stats for the lower pools (i.e. B and C-Pools) are included for those who appeared in these tournaments. (only if they played in the A-pool or Olympics at one time)


It has taken many years of research to gather much of the early info of players and stats. With somewhere between 8-9000 players it is of course impossible to gather relevant biographical information on all of them, but the register will be much more indepth than the 2011 Media Guide ever will be, or any other publication to this date for that matter.

Some of the stuff that one will be able to find out about is:

- Adolf Hitler’s favourite player
- Only player to appear on the Forbes list as a billionaire
- Players who went to prison
- Players who were killed in action during WW I and WW II
- Prisoners of war making daring escapes
- War Heroes, both on the ground and in the air
- Various nobilities – including Dukes, Earls, Counts and a Prince or two
- Those who became politicians – including Senators and Mayors
- Youngest and oldest players to appear in a game
- The only two former players who reached the respectable age of 100
- Players that won World Championship and Olympic medals in other sports
- First goaltender to wear a mask in a World Championship game (before Honma in 1936)
- The two Swedish goaltenders that faced 110 shots in a game
- Players that were personal friends as well as doctors of Royalties (Kings) and stars such as: Charlie Chaplin, Laurel & Hardy, Greta Garbo, Fred Astaire, Jimmy Stewart, Gary Cooper etc
- The only spectator/fan playing in a game

…and it goes on and on, hopefully making this playing register an interesting read, as well as a reference work for the future. The complexity for this type of book is obvious. Many different countries are involved. This have required the authors to travel extensively, visiting several continents in order to do research in local libraries. Now after almost 20 years of researching and gathering information, it is time to release this in book form, but there is still some work to do before it is completely finished. One thing is for sure - it will become a benchmark for future publications on this subject.
So in other words, it's the lovechild of Kings Of the Ice and the IIHF Official Media Guide, on steroids and growth hormones, mutated to obscene proportions?


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Well, hopefully the book(s) will serve as a quality source for the above mentioned tournaments and its players. The general knowledge of (mostly) older European players today is weak at best, although it is getting better.
This book is going to be a must-have for anyone in the all-time drafts and MLD/AAA.

Is there somewhere I can read more about the project?

And are you involved?

By the way, love the end to end rushes.

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This book is going to be a must-have for anyone in the all-time drafts and MLD/AAA.
I'm salivating already! Gotta get this book!

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Some of the stuff that one will be able to find out about is:

- Adolf Hitler’s favourite player
His least favorite player was German Jew Rudi Ball, whom Hitler wanted off the team but relented when the team threatened not to play without him at the Berlin Games; drafted for my ATD10-AA team:

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... a 500-goal scoring Jew who even Hitler had to let the team captain play for Germany at the 1936 Olympic Games because of his reputation as one of the best and his role in the nation's winning a medal (Bronze) at the '32 Olympics.

Rudi Ball, scoring right winger



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A real artist at skating and stick handling.. combined with a 'deadly shot'...
http://www.azhockey.com/Ba.htm

- was voted as the best European ice hockey player in a French Sports Magazine in 1930
- was considered one of the most popular and dreaded European ice hockey players prior to the Second World War.



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... While reasonably short, Ball was considered extremely fast on the ice and was admired as having much skill and ability.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudi_Ball

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In 1936, having Jewish heritage, Ball (the 25-year-old captain) was initially overlooked for selection in the German ice hockey team. ... Ball also believed a deal could be struck to save his family in Germany if he returned to play in the games. The German selectors also realized that without Ball.. the team would not stand a chance of winning. Another factor was that the Nazi party could not overlook the fact that Ball was without doubt one of the leading athletes in his sport. With much controversy Ball was included in the German team to play at the 1936 Olympic games. The deal for Ball's family to leave Germany was also agreed. After Ball was injured, the Germans took 5th place in the Olympic tournament. Ball played four matches and scored two goals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudi_Ball

Olympic Bronze (1932)
World Championship Silver (1930)
European Championship Gold (1930)
World Championship Bronze (1932)
European Championship Bronze (1936 & 1938)
8 German Championships (1928 - 1944)
Spengler Cup (1928-29, 1934-35 & 1935-36)
IIHF Ice Hockey Hall of Fame (2004)


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Who even cares about who Hitlers favorite player was? Damn WWII nostalgia.

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Ordered this book yesterday.IIHF official 2011 Media Guide & Record Book

Cannot wait for this book (the ultimate Player Media Guide)

Robert Gordon Orr please keep us updated on the progress.

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Looking forward to getting this book. Not available yet on the Chapters site but hopefully it will soon. As others have said a must-have for any hockey fan.

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Looks great.

Please hurry and get it out.

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