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11-20-2010, 12:57 PM
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OP, great GDT but I had a request and I'm hoping the Leafs do this as well.

Would it be possible to change the GDT in honour of Pat Burns, since he coached both teams, to show some respect I think it would be nice to make todays GDT (both Habs and Leafs) based on Pat Burns and his achievements.

Also possibly using something like the following pics that I found online, If you have better ones please feel free:

HABS

(I could not find a bigger picture)

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LEAFS

(I could not find a smaller pic and not good at personnally modifying them)
I added both pictures near the top, and I edited the Leafs one to be the same size. Thanks!

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11-20-2010, 12:58 PM
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Beauty GDT. Good luck guys.

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These Leaf games are starting to become a huge nuisance. No matter how hilariously bad that franchise is, it's still a complete toss up when we play and we never seem to beat them in regulation.

Lapierre is not a second liner in any league and it's getting pretty frustrating watching him out there with Gomez and Kostitsyn. Hopefully Martin isn't afraid the change things up if the first period goes bad.
When will Martin play Cammy with Gomez ?

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We need this win, some momentum for Monday's game.

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We often lose versus the Leafs because these games become way too chaotic. The Habs need to focus on the game and play the system.

The Leafs are a terrible hockey team, their weaknesses will show rapidly if this doesn't turn into a massive random game. This is an easy win if we deliver the shutdown sauce on Kessel and MacArthur like we did to much better players in the past. They have no offensive depth whatsoever and a bad defense.

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11-20-2010, 01:36 PM
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You know the Leafs will be pumped and will throw everything at us tonight. The Habs will need to reach that same level of intensity despite the standings. These are always dangerous games...

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11-20-2010, 02:06 PM
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Are we certain that Weber will play as forward and not as 7th D ? Would make more sense - less time for the Spacek/Hammer line, train Weber in a position we will have to fill, should he graduate...

It's not like the 4th line (whichever becomes the 4th line during the game) plays that much anyway with JM as coach.

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11-20-2010, 02:11 PM
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Are we certain that Weber will play as forward and not as 7th D ? Would make more sense - less time for the Spacek/Hammer line, train Weber in a position we will have to fill, should he graduate...

It's not like the 4th line (whichever becomes the 4th line during the game) plays that much anyway with JM as coach.
I've read a combo type thing, 7th D plus spot duty on the 4th line.

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11-20-2010, 02:24 PM
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it's very simple if the habs have a high compete level, our talent should win out, if not, it is what it is

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Line 1

C T.Bozak (24): 18gms, 2gls, 5pts, -2, 4pim, 19:19 (82gms, 9gls, 23pts, -9, 18pim)
C T.Plekanec (28): 18gms, 7gls, 20pts, +5, 12pim, 20:18 (82gms, 32gls, 91pts, +23, 55pim)

W P.Kessel (23): 18gms, 9gls, 13pts, -3, 6pim, 20:07 (82gms, 41gls, 59pts, -14, 27pim)
W M.Cammo (28): 18gms, 5gls, 13pts, +9, 14pim, 18:50 (82gms, 23gls, 59pts, +41, 64pim)

W N.Kadri (20): 3gms, 0gls, 3pts, +2, 0pim, 19:17 (82gms, 0gls, 82pts, +55, 0pim)
W B.Gionta (31): 19gms, 5gls, 11pts, +1, 4pim, 19:05 (82gms, 22gls, 48pts, +4, 17pim)


Line 2

C M.Grabovski (26): 18gms, 5gls, 14pts, +3, 8pim, 18:05 (82gms, 23gls, 64pts, +14, 36pim)
C S.Gomez (30): 19gms, 2gls, 6pts, +1, 6pim, 18:19 (82gms, 9gls, 26pts, +4, 26pim)

W C.MacArthur (25): 18gms, 7gls, 17pts, +2, 12pim, 17:26 (82gms, 32gls, 77pts, +9, 55pim)
W A.Kostitsyn (25): 19gms, 7gls, 14pts, +4, 12pim, 16:17 (82gms, 30gls, 60pts, +17, 52pim)

W N.Kulemin (24): 18gms, 5gls, 11pts, -1, 4pim, 17:11 (82gms, 23gls, 50pts, -5, 18pim)
W M.Lapierre (25): 19gms, 2gls, 3pts, -3, 55pim, 11:49 (82gms, 9gls, 13pts, -13, 237pim)


Line 3

C T.Brent (26): 18gms, 2gls, 3pts, -2, 2pim, 12:38 (82gms, 9gls, 14pts, -9, 9pim)
C J.Halpern (34): 19gms, 4gls, 10pts, +7, 7pim, 13:18 (82gms, 17gls, 43pts, +30, 30pim)

W K.Versteeg (24): 17gms, 5gls, 10pts, -7, 13pim, 20:12 (82gms, 24gls, 48pts, -34, 63pim)
W B.Pouliot (24): 19gms, 5gls, 9pts, +4, 8pim, 12:20 (82gms, 22gls, 39pts, +17, 35pim)

W F.Sjostrom (27): 18gms, 1gls, 2pts, -5, 2pim, 14:04 (82gms, 5gls, 9pts, -23, 9pim)
W M.Darche (33): 15gms, 3gls, 5pts, +6, 6pim, 9:36 (82gms, 16gls, 27pts, +33, 33pim)


Line 4

C J.Mitchell (25): 9gms, 0gls, 1pts, -2, 6pim, 14:10 (82gms, 0gls, 9pts, -18, 55pim)
C L.Eller (21): 18gms, 0gls, 1pts, -3, 8pim, 9:40 (82gms, 0gls, 5pts, -14, 36pim)

W M.Brown (25): 18gms, 1gls, 2pts, +0, 36pim, 9:58 (82gms, 5gls, 9pts, +0, 164pim)
W T.Moen (28): 19gms, 2gls, 5pts, +3, 20pim, 12:08 (82gms, 9gls, 22pts, +13, 86pim)

W C.Orr (28): 18gms, 2gls, 2pts, +2, 26pim, 5:16 (82gms, 9gls, 9pts, +9, 118pim)
W T.Pyatt (23): 17gms, 0gls, 0pts, -4, 2pim, 12:18 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, -19, 10pim)







Pair 1

D T.Kaberle (32): 18gms, 0gls, 10pts, +2, 0pim, 23:39 (82gms, 0gls, 46pts, +9, 0pim)
D R.Hamrlik (36): 17gms, 1gls, 8pts, +3, 12pim, 20:50 (82gms, 5gls, 39pts, +15, 58pim)

D L.Schenn (20): 18gms, 1gls, 5pts, +4, 14pim, 22:53 (82gms, 5gls, 23pts, +18, 64pim)
D P.K.Subban (21): 19gms, 1gls, 8pts, +6, 20pim, 20:48 (82gms, 4gls, 35pts, +26, 86pim)


Pair 2

D F.Beauchemin (30): 18gms, 1gls, 5pts, +1, 4pim, 24:20 (82gms, 5gls, 23pts, +5, 18pim)
D J.Gorges (26): 19gms, 1gls, 7pts, -1, 8pim, 22:06 (82gms, 4gls, 30pts, -4, 35pim)

D M.Komisarek (28): 18gms, 1gls, 6pts, +1, 14pim, 16:01 (82gms, 5gls, 27pts, +5, 64pim)
D H.Gill (35): 19gms, 0gls, 1pts, -5, 13pim, 19:16 (82gms, 0gls, 4pts, -22, 56pim)


Pair 3

D C.Gunnarsson (23): 10gms, 0gls, 1pts, +0, 2pim, 14:20 (82gms, 0gls, 8pts, +0, 16pim)
D J.Spacek (36): 19gms, 1gls, 7pts, +2, 14pim, 19:39 (82gms, 4gls, 30pts, +9, 60pim)

D K.Aulie (21): 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, -2, 0pim, 11:59 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, -55, 0pim)
D A.Picard (25): 11gms, 1gls, 1pts, +8, 0pim, 15:00 (82gms, 8gls, 8pts, +60, 0pim)





Starting Goalies

G J.Gustavsson (25): 7gms, 2-3-1, 2.55gaa, 0so, .913sv%
G C.Price (23): 18gms, 11-6-1, 2.11gaa, 3so, .928sv%

Backup Goalies

G J.Reimer (22): 0gms, 0-0-0, 0.00gaa, 0so, .000sv%
G A.Auld (29): 1gms, 1-0-0, 1.00gaa, 0so, .968sv%



Injured/Suspended

W C.Armstrong (27): 8gms, 1gls, 1pts, -2, 11pim, 13:00 (82gms, 10gls, 10pts, -21, 113pim)
D D.Phaneuf (25): 11gms, 0gls, 4pts, -6, 17pim, 22:44 (82gms, 0gls, 30pts, -45, 127pim)
G J.S.Giguere (33): 12gms, 5-5-2, 2.78gaa, 0so, .895sv%

D A.Markov (31): 7gms, 1gls, 3pts, +2, 4pim, 22:54 (82gms, 12gls, 35pts, +23, 47pim)

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11-20-2010, 02:25 PM
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A win keeps us ahead of the 'Ruins if they beat LAK tonight (Big if).
A win gets revenge for losing the first game.
A win gets the ball rolling for another win in the Flyers rematch.

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11-20-2010, 02:39 PM
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I like seeing Weber put in that type of situation right now. It's going to reduce pressure on him somewhat and hopefully get him to handle the puck in offensive situations a little so he's game-ready for the PP when the situation arises. Worked wonders with Mark Streit a few years ago. Smart move.

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Man, you guys place way to much emphasis on what the lines are composed of.

We have a very versatile forward corps, it really doesn´t matter much who plays with who, concentrate more on what they are doing rather than who they are doing it with.

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11-20-2010, 02:46 PM
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Line 1

C T.Bozak (24): 18gms, 2gls, 5pts, -2, 4pim, 19:19 (82gms, 9gls, 23pts, -9, 18pim)
C T.Plekanec (28): 18gms, 7gls, 20pts, +5, 12pim, 20:18 (82gms, 32gls, 91pts, +23, 55pim)

W P.Kessel (23): 18gms, 9gls, 13pts, -3, 6pim, 20:07 (82gms, 41gls, 59pts, -14, 27pim)
W M.Cammo (28): 18gms, 5gls, 13pts, +9, 14pim, 18:50 (82gms, 23gls, 59pts, +41, 64pim)

W N.Kadri (20): 3gms, 0gls, 3pts, +2, 0pim, 19:17 (82gms, 0gls, 82pts, +55, 0pim)
W B.Gionta (31): 19gms, 5gls, 11pts, +1, 4pim, 19:05 (82gms, 22gls, 48pts, +4, 17pim)


Line 2

C M.Grabovski (26): 18gms, 5gls, 14pts, +3, 8pim, 18:05 (82gms, 23gls, 64pts, +14, 36pim)
C S.Gomez (30): 19gms, 2gls, 6pts, +1, 6pim, 18:19 (82gms, 9gls, 26pts, +4, 26pim)

W C.MacArthur (25): 18gms, 7gls, 17pts, +2, 12pim, 17:26 (82gms, 32gls, 77pts, +9, 55pim)
W A.Kostitsyn (25): 19gms, 7gls, 14pts, +4, 12pim, 16:17 (82gms, 30gls, 60pts, +17, 52pim)

W N.Kulemin (24): 18gms, 5gls, 11pts, -1, 4pim, 17:11 (82gms, 23gls, 50pts, -5, 18pim)
W M.Lapierre (25): 19gms, 2gls, 3pts, -3, 55pim, 11:49 (82gms, 9gls, 13pts, -13, 237pim)


Line 3

C T.Brent (26): 18gms, 2gls, 3pts, -2, 2pim, 12:38 (82gms, 9gls, 14pts, -9, 9pim)
C J.Halpern (34): 19gms, 4gls, 10pts, +7, 7pim, 13:18 (82gms, 17gls, 43pts, +30, 30pim)

W K.Versteeg (24): 17gms, 5gls, 10pts, -7, 13pim, 20:12 (82gms, 24gls, 48pts, -34, 63pim)
W B.Pouliot (24): 19gms, 5gls, 9pts, +4, 8pim, 12:20 (82gms, 22gls, 39pts, +17, 35pim)

W F.Sjostrom (27): 18gms, 1gls, 2pts, -5, 2pim, 14:04 (82gms, 5gls, 9pts, -23, 9pim)
W M.Darche (33): 15gms, 3gls, 5pts, +6, 6pim, 9:36 (82gms, 16gls, 27pts, +33, 33pim)


Line 4

C J.Mitchell (25): 9gms, 0gls, 1pts, -2, 6pim, 14:10 (82gms, 0gls, 9pts, -18, 55pim)
C L.Eller (21): 18gms, 0gls, 1pts, -3, 8pim, 9:40 (82gms, 0gls, 5pts, -14, 36pim)

W M.Brown (25): 18gms, 1gls, 2pts, +0, 36pim, 9:58 (82gms, 5gls, 9pts, +0, 164pim)
W T.Moen (28): 19gms, 2gls, 5pts, +3, 20pim, 12:08 (82gms, 9gls, 22pts, +13, 86pim)

W C.Orr (28): 18gms, 2gls, 2pts, +2, 26pim, 5:16 (82gms, 9gls, 9pts, +9, 118pim)
W T.Pyatt (23): 17gms, 0gls, 0pts, -4, 2pim, 12:18 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, -19, 10pim)







Pair 1

D T.Kaberle (32): 18gms, 0gls, 10pts, +2, 0pim, 23:39 (82gms, 0gls, 46pts, +9, 0pim)
D R.Hamrlik (36): 17gms, 1gls, 8pts, +3, 12pim, 20:50 (82gms, 5gls, 39pts, +15, 58pim)

D L.Schenn (20): 18gms, 1gls, 5pts, +4, 14pim, 22:53 (82gms, 5gls, 23pts, +18, 64pim)
D P.K.Subban (21): 19gms, 1gls, 8pts, +6, 20pim, 20:48 (82gms, 4gls, 35pts, +26, 86pim)


Pair 2

D F.Beauchemin (30): 18gms, 1gls, 5pts, +1, 4pim, 24:20 (82gms, 5gls, 23pts, +5, 18pim)
D J.Gorges (26): 19gms, 1gls, 7pts, -1, 8pim, 22:06 (82gms, 4gls, 30pts, -4, 35pim)

D M.Komisarek (28): 18gms, 1gls, 6pts, +1, 14pim, 16:01 (82gms, 5gls, 27pts, +5, 64pim)
D H.Gill (35): 19gms, 0gls, 1pts, -5, 13pim, 19:16 (82gms, 0gls, 4pts, -22, 56pim)


Pair 3

D C.Gunnarsson (23): 10gms, 0gls, 1pts, +0, 2pim, 14:20 (82gms, 0gls, 8pts, +0, 16pim)
D J.Spacek (36): 19gms, 1gls, 7pts, +2, 14pim, 19:39 (82gms, 4gls, 30pts, +9, 60pim)

D K.Aulie (21): 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, -2, 0pim, 11:59 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, -55, 0pim)
D A.Picard (25): 11gms, 1gls, 1pts, +8, 0pim, 15:00 (82gms, 8gls, 8pts, +60, 0pim)





Starting Goalies

G J.Gustavsson (25): 7gms, 2-3-1, 2.55gaa, 0so, .913sv%
G C.Price (23): 18gms, 11-6-1, 2.11gaa, 3so, .928sv%

Backup Goalies

G J.Reimer (22): 0gms, 0-0-0, 0.00gaa, 0so, .000sv%
G A.Auld (29): 1gms, 1-0-0, 1.00gaa, 0so, .968sv%



Injured/Suspended

W C.Armstrong (27): 8gms, 1gls, 1pts, -2, 11pim, 13:00 (82gms, 10gls, 10pts, -21, 113pim)
D D.Phaneuf (25): 11gms, 0gls, 4pts, -6, 17pim, 22:44 (82gms, 0gls, 30pts, -45, 127pim)
G J.S.Giguere (33): 12gms, 5-5-2, 2.78gaa, 0so, .895sv%

D A.Markov (31): 7gms, 1gls, 3pts, +2, 4pim, 22:54 (82gms, 12gls, 35pts, +23, 47pim)
This means absolutely nothing. A forward corps job is not just to put up points.

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Nice GDT.

Gio with the hatty tonight.

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I'm also not convinced Darche is the least of our forwards. But then, hmm, come to think of it I don't know who actually is. Pyatt more likely.

Well, I'd rather see this experiment rolled out now, against the Leafs, than maybe in some other matches.

One thing I like about the 7th PP D is that it helps us keep the icetime/fatigue factor in check for Hamrlik and Spacek. Or at least, potentially it could. But since both those guys might be looking at PP time with Markov out, then shaving the 2-5 mins of icetime per game back and giving some chunk of it to Weber could help on that front.

Thats a very logical explanation. I'm really worried in the long run about the hard minutes that hammer and spacek have to endure now that markov is shelved. Maybe shaving off a couple minutes here or there will add up in the long run. I'd rather see 7 D and 11 forwards rather than weber playing forward, so i hope your theory is correct.


It also gives the habs the added dimension on the PP of a cannon on the blueline. Not that Subban doesn't have a good shot, but weber gets it off much quicker, thus he can be more effective as the trigger guy.

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Everyone should be screaming ''Thank You Pat, Thank You Pat'' at the beginning of the game.

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has weber improved his defensive play or gained some muscle since last year?

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Thanks for reminding me: you were the fellow who felt I was ludicrous to believe Montreal had a stronger roster than Toronto's a few years back, the year that Montreal topped the East. This is neither here nor there, just was trying to place your name.

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and here I thought some of you would have appreciated the roster and numbers comparisons.

ah well. guess not.

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and here I thought some of you would have appreciated the roster and numbers comparisons.

ah well. guess not.
For whatever it's worth, I did..

Thanks Zeke.

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Someone on the leafs GDT said that if they beat us they have a good chance to make the playoffs.

I'm not kidding.

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