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Z40's top 100 list, 40h overall

View Poll Results: who should be 40th?
Shea Weber 6 11.54%
Alex Perezhogin 14 26.92%
Andrej Meszaros 3 5.77%
Chuck Kobasew 10 19.23%
Anton Babchuk 2 3.85%
Carlo colaiacovo 4 7.69%
Corey Perry 6 11.54%
Pierre-Marc Bouchard 0 0%
Ryan Kesler 2 3.85%
Alexander Radulov 0 0%
Mikko Koivu 3 5.77%
Mike Cammelleri 2 3.85%
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05-29-2005, 05:35 PM
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Z40's top 100 list, 40h overall

The Top 100 list:

1. Ilya Kovalchuk.............43......74.14% (2001)
2. Alexander Ovechkin......20......33.90% (2004)
3. Kari Lehtonen..............22......41.51% (2002)
4. Rick Nash...................22.......55.00% (2002)
5. Jason Spezza..............29.......51.79% (2001)
6. Jay Bouwmeester........18.......31.03% (2002)
7. Tuomo Ruutu..............23.......43.40% (2001)
8. Evgeny Malkin.............15.......26.79% (2004)
9. Joni Pitkanen..............16.......30.19% (2002)
10. Nikolai Zherdev..........20.......35.71% (2003)
11. Eric Staal.................24........41.38% (2003)
12. Dion Phaneuf............21........50.00% (2003)
13. Marc-Andre Fleury.....21........40.38% (2003)

14. Dan Hamhuis............17........31.48% (2001)
15. Ryan Suter..............18........36.00% (2003)
16. Nathan Horton..........17........34.00% (2003)
17. Thomas Vanek..........13........27.08% (2003)
18. Patrice Bergeron.......11........26.19% (2003)
19. Jeff Carter...............13........28.26% (2003)

20. Cameron Barker........12........27.91% (2004)
21. Hannu Toivonen.......14........32.56% (2002)
22. Dustin Brown...........17........39.53% (2003)
23. Ryan Getzlaf............12........24.00% (2003)

24. Joffrey Lupul...........15.........31.91% (2002)
25. Alexander Semin......23.........54.76% (2002)
26. Rostislav Olesz........16.........38.10% (2004)
27. Milan Michalek.........8..........20.00% (2003)
28. Mike Komisarek........9..........23.08% (2001)
29. Ales Hemsky...........12........26.67% (2001)
30. Zach Parise............19........34.55% (2003)
31. Braydon Coburn.......19........42.22% (2003)

32. Stephen Weiss........15........32.61% (2001)
33. Andrei Kostitsyn.......9.........18.00% (2003)
34. Denis Grebeshkov.....12......23.53%(2002)
35. Ryan Whitney.........8......17.02% (2002)
36. Fedor Tyutin............11.....24.44% (2001)
37. Stanislav Chistov.....10......23.26% (2001)
38. Lauri Tukonen..........14 .........25.00% (2004)
39.Mike Richards.........14.........34.15% (2003)


remember to say who you wanna add in the next one...
Im picking: Chuck Kobasew
Next added: Mike Cammelleri
Im gonna say add: Igor Grigorenko

Possible picks to be added, four from each draft:
Igor Grigorenko, Marcel Goc,Teff Woywitka,Tim Gleason,
Matthew Stajan, Alexander Steen, Steve Eminger, Sean Bergenheim
Eric Fehr, Pat, M-A Pouliot, Brent Seabrook, Mark Stuart
Alexander Picard, Petteri Nokelainen, Ladislav Smid, A.J. Thelen

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boy grigorenko is underrated now hugely. He went from a top 10 HF prospect, to getting hurt to getting no respect at all.

so everyone knows, he did struggle early this year and have no pts son a horrrrrrrrible team then when he got traded he had 18 pts in 30 games, and i think a huge hot streak at the end of the season.. The year before his injury he was 30 pts in 47 gm, not too far off, i dont understand why hes not getting any votes since hes completely shown hes back since his injury, finishing the year STRONG, and what some scouts have said ive heard, maybe in better shape then he was before the injury.

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boy grigorenko is underrated now hugely. He went from a top 10 HF prospect, to getting hurt to getting no respect at all.
Actually, he went from a marginal prospect, to a top 10 prospect, to having a career in doubt, to getting no respect at all.

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he did struggle early this year and have no pts son a horrrrrrrrible team
Lada is one of the best.

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i dont understand why hes not getting any votes since hes completely shown hes back since his injury, finishing the year STRONG, and what some scouts have said ive heard, maybe in better shape then he was before the injury.
Contrary to his strong finish, all reports I read stated he looked slow, sluggish and less engaging than the Grigorenko of old, who wasn't exactly a future superstar to begin with. I don't think anyone can state for a fact that he is back to normal yet, let alone that he is better than he's ever been.

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Kobasew. Was one of the best players in the AHL this year. He'll take the next step in the NHL next year. I still think he can be a Ryan Smyth type.

Add the most underrated prospect on HF Boards: Cam Ward.

I don't have concerns about Grigorenko's talent. I have concerns about the year of development he lost due to the car accident. Traditionally, young players who miss a full season or the majority of a season due to injury don't reach their upside. Every year before a player turns 21 or 22 is critical. That lost year will haunt Grigorenko.

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Robyn Regehr was in a serious car accident also...........................

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Chuck Kobasew. Because nobody seems to want to add Seabrook aside from me, how about adding Nokelainen? He's proven himself to be as good or better than Lauri Tukonen.

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Robyn Regher's accident took place in the spring, thus he missed just over a quarter of the 1999-2000 season. I'm not talking about mental/emotional scars, I'm talking about young players missing most of or all of a full season, like Grigorenko did.

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Quote:
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Actually, he went from a marginal prospect, to a top 10 prospect, to having a career in doubt, to getting no respect at all.


Lada is one of the best.


Contrary to his strong finish, all reports I read stated he looked slow, sluggish and less engaging than the Grigorenko of old, who wasn't exactly a future superstar to begin with. I don't think anyone can state for a fact that he is back to normal yet, let alone that he is better than he's ever been.
if im correct, they also had a lot of NHLers on there as well this year

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Chuck Kobasew. Because nobody seems to want to add Seabrook aside from me, how about adding Nokelainen? He's proven himself to be as good or better than Lauri Tukonen.
actually i want him added next

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Kobasew. Was one of the best players in the AHL this year. He'll take the next step in the NHL next year. I still think he can be a Ryan Smyth type.

Add the most underrated prospect on HF Boards: Cam Ward.

I don't have concerns about Grigorenko's talent. I have concerns about the year of development he lost due to the car accident. Traditionally, young players who miss a full season or the majority of a season due to injury don't reach their upside. Every year before a player turns 21 or 22 is critical. That lost year will haunt Grigorenko.

18 pts in his last 30 gms to finish off the year.

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The 21-year-old prospect had two goals and three assists in four games this week, upping his totals to 10 goals and five assists in the past 20 games...

Grigorenko had 19 goals and 10 assist in 47 games in his last full season of hockey. His pace in the past 20 games pro-rates to 24 goals and 12 assists over the same 47-game stretch.
doesnt mean he'd get that, but the finish off that strong, i dont think that year was completely hurt anymore...

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