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11-02-2010, 07:38 PM
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Bauer ONE100/TotalONE skates break in times

With these new boots that are supposedly completely moldable to your foot, have break in times changed? Those two skates have the same boots I think, wondering if they're any easier/harder to break in than other skates.

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One100 is an updated One95. Totalone is an entirely new skate.

And what do you mean by "other skates"?

Bake them and they'll break in pretty quickly, that's really all there is to it. If you don't bake them, they may not ever break in.

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11-02-2010, 09:22 PM
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Well I thought the totalONE and one100 boots were very similar?

I was told by a few hockey shop guys that if you're not on the ice practically every day, the totalONE/one100 boots would take forever to break in.

I meant the rest of the Bauer supreme line up (ones without the full composite boot)

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If you don't bake them, they may not ever break in.


This is only true if you're not an advanced skater...

OP, how long have you been skating?

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A dozen years or so

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By "breaking in" do you mean fitting really well and eliminating any painful spots on the foot, or softening up/getting easier to flex? I haven't personally skated in either one, but I have head that TOs are significantly less stiff than one100s, which are extremely stiff.

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This is only true if you're not an advanced skater...
The foam may break in, but the 'Alive' composite shell that you're paying several hundred extra for won't. Modern composite skates simply do not work the same as traditional skates.

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By "breaking in" do you mean fitting really well and eliminating any painful spots on the foot, or softening up/getting easier to flex? I haven't personally skated in either one, but I have head that TOs are significantly less stiff than one100s, which are extremely stiff.
I mean getting rid of the painful spots when you first start skating in them.

I tried the one100's and the Totalone's on and they both felt pretty damn stiff. I didn't get a chance to skate in either though.

Upon doing some quick searching, it seems like the TO's and the one100's uppers are both built from bauer's "ALIVE" composite. Going through the bauer website and the listed specs, it seems like the TO and one100's are pretty darn similar save for the Fusion runner, adjustable tongue, liner, and the vented outsole.

Now I've heard this one100 = updated one95 thing from multiple sources as well, so what makes the totalONE's so different from the rest of the supreme lineup? I'm not questioning that it is, I'm curious

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The boot is configured differently, and they have a system similar to what easton has been doing that transfers energy otherwise wasted in the first part of the stride while straining against the tongue back into the skate and into the stride. Basically storing energy in the skate and releasing it back into the stride later. Easton calls it coil, Bauer is calling it reflex or something like that. similar concept, different execution. Bauer does it with a composite insert on the tongue of the skate, easton does it just with the body of the skate itself.

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The foam may break in, but the 'Alive' composite shell that you're paying several hundred extra for won't. Modern composite skates simply do not work the same as traditional skates.
ahh, I see.

But how does the shell really "break in"? does it flex easier? make it less stiff?

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ahh, I see.

But how does the shell really "break in"? does it flex easier? make it less stiff?
It changes shape to form to the shape of your foot better.

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I never had "break in pain" in my one95s, the baking was enough to make the boot fit perfectly.

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Well I hope I have the same luck...


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Well I hope I have the same luck...
Can I ask what skates you decided to go with? I've been thinking about getting the One100's.

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Can I ask what skates you decided to go with? I've been thinking about getting the One100's.
I got the One100s. Came down mostly to a $$$ thing. I haven't had a chance to skate in them yet

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I got the One100s. Came down mostly to a $$$ thing. I haven't had a chance to skate in them yet
Cool. I've been contemplating getting a pair of those for the last 6 months. Let me know how they feel after a few skates. Any info would be great!

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Well I've been in them a few times now, pretty much got them set up as I like. The biggest thing was figuring out how I lace them - coming from low-cut grafs, it's very weird. I'm still changing my skating a little bit to get the most out of them, but so far I'm delighted. Just the sheer weight difference is amazing. Right now, I feel like I'm not getting full power out of my stride (I don't know if it makes any sense, but that bite into the ice at the end of the stride isn't quite fully there).

This could be in my head, but I swear my feet are just physically moving quicker with the lighter skates.

I didn't find there was any discomfort the first few times, which was almost shocking. But I don't think I was lacing them up very tightly. I usually don't lace up skates very tightly to begin with. But last time I tried really tightening it and I felt like it resulted in better skating but it was starting to make my foot cramp up.



Now some odd things I noticed:

- It seems like the skates out of the box are profiled to lean you very forward. It's either that, or my old grafs/t-blades were very flat or leaning backwards so I'm not used to this at all. This has caused me to fall forwards quite a few times already
- I'm not exactly sure how to pinpoint this issue but when I'm doing a very tight turn, the bottom outside edge of my inside skate boot is starting to touch the ice and causing me to fall sometimes. I never had this issue before with my old skates, so I'm not sure what's going on here.

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- It seems like the skates out of the box are profiled to lean you very forward. It's either that, or my old grafs/t-blades were very flat or leaning backwards so I'm not used to this at all. This has caused me to fall forwards quite a few times already
I'd say you got some other issue going on causing you to fall because the Supreme skate is VERY much backwards/on the heels compared to Grafs or any other skate out there honestly.

I went from Grafs to TotalOnes and had to have the steel profiled forward twice and had a 3mm heel lift put in under the holder as well to get them close to what the Grafs felt like.

You may be over compensating for the severe rear lean of the Supremes which is causing you to go over forward, but there is no way they are more forward than your Grafs unless they were severely altered to begin with.

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I'd say you got some other issue going on causing you to fall because the Supreme skate is VERY much backwards/on the heels compared to Grafs or any other skate out there honestly.

I went from Grafs to TotalOnes and had to have the steel profiled forward twice and had a 3mm heel lift put in under the holder as well to get them close to what the Grafs felt like.

You may be over compensating for the severe rear lean of the Supremes which is causing you to go over forward, but there is no way they are more forward than your Grafs unless they were severely altered to begin with.
I think it might've been because I had them laced all the way up before and that was causing me to lean the whole skate forward when I tried to bend my knees (and consequently the ankle, which was being held very firmly by the skate because of the lacing).

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Stiffer skates generally have longer break in times, this is normal and a consequence of a stiffer boot. The reality is, longer break in, longer lifespan. BTW, if you try to bake a skate 4 or 5 times, you can shave months of it's lifespan each time.

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i've been playing hockey for 16 years, and ive used alot of skates.

last month i picked up the new bauer totalones, and they are BY FAR the best skates i have ever used.
there was virtually no break in time for me, and they feel like you're skating in sneakers. incredible response and feel.

i would very highly reccomend them.

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i've been playing hockey for 16 years, and ive used alot of skates.

last month i picked up the new bauer totalones, and they are BY FAR the best skates i have ever used.
there was virtually no break in time for me, and they feel like you're skating in sneakers. incredible response and feel.

i would very highly reccomend them.
That's what a guy wearing the TOne's told me, and I was expecting the same from the one100s since they share the same boot.

Weird thing is, first 2-3 times I skated in them, no pain at all. But the next few times, it was a little painful, and last time I got a blister on my toe. So I have no idea what's going on.

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The TO and the One100 are not the same boot. There is a slightly different liner and foam in the TO and it is also slightly softer. Bauer denies this, but if you take both side by side, you can squeeze the TO boot together much easier than the One100 boot.

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That's what a guy wearing the TOne's told me, and I was expecting the same from the one100s since they share the same boot.

Weird thing is, first 2-3 times I skated in them, no pain at all. But the next few times, it was a little painful, and last time I got a blister on my toe. So I have no idea what's going on.
the one100s are essentially the same boot, but a few different material components. they are significantly softer and they are a little lighter as well.

the problems you had might be attributed to your foot type. different skate companys make their skates differently, and for different shaped feet. thus, the break-in time will be different for everyone. as for me, i've used bauer for a long time now, because they fit my feet the best. not to say that they won conform to your foot, it might just take a bit longer.

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The TO and the One100 are not the same boot. There is a slightly different liner and foam in the TO and it is also slightly softer. Bauer denies this, but if you take both side by side, you can squeeze the TO boot together much easier than the One100 boot.
yeah there are considerable differences between the two. i had the one100s before these and the boots are essentially the same, but with a slightly more felxible exterior and a considerably softer interior. there is more cushion inside the totalones, i got a half size up from my one100s

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