You are so far off it's sad. Hickey wouldn't even have a shot at displacing someone from our lineup. The only way he'd even get a shot in the NHL with Toronto is if the Leafs had 2 puckmoving defencemen go down to injury (Lebda would draw in first), and even then, he'd have to beat out Holzer/Gysbers/Mikus/Lashoff/Aulie. He'd likely fall below Jesse Blacker aswell, who was very good in pre-season and has continiously gotten significantly better since being drafted.
Gunnarsson & Hickey aren't even in the same league. (literally) One is an NHLer that was able to succeed lead his team in +/- as a rookie while playing over 21 minutes a night, the other is a former high draft pick who's development basically stopped, while being surpassed in the Kings system and rotting away in the minors while Peter Harrold plays games for the Kings.
Aulie & Hickey are comparable level prospects (i.e. dime a dozen irrelevant to most teams systems), they've had about the same amount of success in the last few years, and if Aulie continues to play well at the NHL level, his value as a player will skyrocket compared to Hickey's. Both have to show some success at the NHL level this year to not be viewed as complete busts.
Last edited by seanlinden: 11-22-2010 at 11:01 PM.
Hickey has great credentials on his resume, and a high ceiling. Yes, 4 years and he hasnt made the NHL. An injury kept him out most of last year, or Im sure he would have seen time in the NHL.
And yes, Gunnarsson has made the NHL. One major difference. Kings have one of, if not the most talented D corps in the league, and the Leafs have one of the very worst. With the likes of Finger, Frogen, Exelby, injured Komisarek, et al..
The Leafs had Kaberle, Beauch, Schenn, (White/Phaneuf).... Not what Id call a killer depth chart in the AHL either... Compare that to the Kings and you may find your answer...
Ill take Hickey any day over Gunarsson.
What are you smokin? Frogen?? Exelby?? Finger?? Not one of these guys plays for the Leafs...
After watching last nights game Kulemin really impressed me. He has speed and is not afraid to crash the net. Obviously to get Richards out off Dallas Toronto would have to offer a robust package but i would like to see Kulemin be involved in it. I think a line of Morrow - Ribeiro - Kulemin would be a pretty solid. Ribeiro is an assist machine and has the uncanny ability to thread passes that Kulemin would benefit from.
The East and West play different styles that makes it really hard to compare. Would Doughty be better in the East than he is in the West? Would JJ also have the same physicality in the East than he has in the West?
Where do you think Hickey would fit into the ever so deep Leafs prospect pool?? Because I have him making Kaberle expendable, and more then likely being a top 4 in the current lineup.
Hickey's a garbage prospect, he was an extremely good puckmover in his draft year who's development basically stopped after being drafted 4th overall. In today's world of developing young players, guys who dominate a CHL League at 18 (like Hickey did) and make it to the NHL, don't take 5 seasons to make it while showing only marginal improvement in his overall game. They either make it in their 2nd or 3rd season, or not at all. He's had 4 opportunities to make an NHL team that was extremely lacklustre on the blueline, and has now been surpassed by some pretty crappy defenceman. The other general rule of prospects -- you take the guy who's been imrpoving, if anything, it looks worse for a guy that was great 4 years ago to still be that same player than one who's grown since being drafted.
If anything, the offers will come up near the trade deadline, but like Kovalchuk, everyone's going to be surprised at how low his value is because he might be a rental.
Everyone just thinks of how good the player is but a team is a business, and no business is willing to trade away a lot of their talent for potentially a few months and a playoff run.
The longer it drags on the lower his value will drop because once FA comes around he's up for grabs.
This is all assuming that he doesn't get re-signed, and I think he will get signed.
Richards is actually one of those players who's value problably increases as we approach the deadline. He's still not worth clearing out all that salary and there isn't a team in the league that has room to add $7m in their budget and cap. As the deadline approaches, he becomes more attractive to a few select teams that have teh space to add him.
to make the deal work cap wise could the Rangers not move Frolov and Rozsival plus prospect like Grachev, guys like Christensen, Gilroy and 2- 2nd rounders while the Starts turn around and move Frolov and even Rozsival for assets?