the sad part is if we trade him i BET he goes on to be the player we'd wish we had later..
the same one CBJ and the Ranger fans thought they were getting? I remember Ranger fans thinking they stole him from CBJ when they gave up Tyutin.
the guy is here just for the paycheck, that it. You would think he would be busting his ass seeing as this might be it for him. We are getting what we saw in CBJ and with the Rangers. A guy with all world talent, but with a lousy work ethic. What kind of value you get for Zherdev now? a 4th round pick? As much as I dont like him, I say its better to keep him and let him walk on July 1
What I find entertaining is that you're focusing on 19 games when Zherdev has 384 games in the league... and exasperated some other coaches as well. Lavi is trying to get him to play a certain way -- a way that Zherdev needs to learn in order to be the player he can be independent of any future with the Flyers.
19 games and limited ice time is squat... the cream rises, and it'll bear out over time.
What I don't understand with your argument, Jester, is what merit you give to small sample sizes. I would think that a 19-game view is good for short-term planning. "Playing the hot hand" is the often-used cliché. I mean, we see all the time that decisions are made on the smallest sample size possible; ie, a player has a good shift, so the coach bumps him up a line or plays the line more. And as the shifts stay impressive, he gets more ice time throughout that game. Then, with a good game probably comes more ice time.
I'm not saying that his performance to date this year should prompt Holmgren to offer Zherdev an extension. But to say that these 19 games means nothing in terms of the day to day seems extreme, as does closing the book on a player after 384 games in the league.
Recent callup Eric Wellwood also practiced with the club, lending to speculation the Flyers may be listening to offers for RW Nikolay Zherdev, who saw some ice time on a line with Jeff Carter on Monday night . .
Didn't you use Carters projected goal total earlier this year to justify his existence on this team?
Edit: just saying
There's a fundamental difference between outlier arguments and "guy is producing just fine" arguments.
Small sample size isn't reliable to prove a point, regardless of what the point or context of the argument it's being used in happens to be. Granted, Carter's production this year matches up with what he's been doing the last few, but once you cite those seasons you're not really relying on a small sample size anymore.
What's more, while the sample size we have for Zherdev this year is small, it isn't really that comparable to the rest of his career really. This is a very very different situation than he's been in before. So we don't really know if his performance this season (at least statistically) is as anomalous as it might seem, or if that is close to how he would produce on this team over a longer period of time.
But he has 7 goals in the first quarter of the season. 2M is a bargain for that. And he's keeping his +/- fairly decent.
You should really compare apples to apples. Zherdev is tied for team lead and tied for nineth in the league in ESG. And his ESTOI is very limited. This is more than decent goal production -- it is outstanding.
His ESGA is also more than decent. It might be even the best on the team. If he actually had played horrible defense, it would have shown on his ESGA over 20 games, really. So sorry, I am not buying this "horrible defense" thing.
What is off -- is his assists column. It just looks like he has no place on this team, and is forced to play alone.