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11-28-2010, 12:49 PM
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people reallly should calm down. this team was averging almost 4 goals a game. you knew that they would run into some good goaltending eventually. doesnt matter whos in goal. We will be fine.

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I bet if Bob was in net he wouldve had a shutout.
his angles are his weakness. its completely possible that Mair shot goes in anyways.

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11-28-2010, 02:42 PM
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I hate to say it, but the major problem with this team is being lazy and uninterested at times. After a bad loss, they don't bounce back and thats the big problem i have. They are so good, but yet don't feel like they have to play at their top level every night. I watched the habs game last night(not much choice, over the inlaws) and i gotta give that team credit. They rarely every lose back to back games because they actually try and play hard which is something our flyers could learn from them. I just feel like this team could easily fall back to what it was last year, bottom 4 in the conference and just make the playoffs. Sometimes i see the ECF championship team and other times i see the lazy team of last year.

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I hate to say it, but the major problem with this team is being lazy and uninterested at times. After a bad loss, they don't bounce back and thats the big problem i have. They are so good, but yet don't feel like they have to play at their top level every night. I watched the habs game last night(not much choice, over the inlaws) and i gotta give that team credit. They rarely every lose back to back games because they actually try and play hard which is something our flyers could learn from them. I just feel like this team could easily fall back to what it was last year, bottom 4 in the conference and just make the playoffs. Sometimes i see the ECF championship team and other times i see the lazy team of last year.
The intensity required to dominate other professional hockey clubs is not sustainable for an 82 game schedule and deep into the play offs. People don't like to hear it, but teams should pace themselves. You can't play every game like it's a game 7.

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11-28-2010, 04:14 PM
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I bet if Bob was in net he wouldve had a shutout.
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I'm gunna agree with that actually

It begins...




poor Boosh.

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11-28-2010, 04:32 PM
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I bet if Bob was in net he wouldve had a shutout.
When you lose a game against the worst team in the division 2-1 in a shootout, goaltending isn't the issue.

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11-28-2010, 04:54 PM
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When you lose a game against the worst team in the division 2-1 in a shootout, goaltending isn't the issue.
Hedberg did play well for them. that was the difference.

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11-28-2010, 04:59 PM
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Hedberg did play well for them. that was the difference.
Hedberg did play well, but inability of our players to score a goal- 1/41 is stupendous.

Hopefully, they are not sliding in the last year scoreless draught.

Boosh played very well and deserved the V, but he got very little support with that.

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Hedberg did play well for them. that was the difference.
True. But to argue that Bob could have done much better is asinine. Boosh had a near perfect game. Regardless of goaltenders playing awesome, the offense has to play better and can't let goalies play like that against them.

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True. But to argue that Bob could have done much better is asinine. Boosh had a near perfect game. Regardless of goaltenders playing awesome, the offense has to play better and can't let goalies play like that against them.
I didnt say that and I never would. It just seems that people expect this team to score 4 or 5 goals every night. It just isnt going to happen. We have had games where its been the other way around where Bobrovsky has played well and been the only reason we have won.

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I bet if Bob was in net he wouldve had a shutout.
Because he's been racking up the shutouts this season?

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Because he's been racking up the shutouts this season?

here we go again..


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here we go again..

Oops. Sorry. I forgot humor is severely frowned upon here.

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I didnt say that and I never would. It just seems that people expect this team to score 4 or 5 goals every night. It just isnt going to happen. We have had games where its been the other way around where Bobrovsky has played well and been the only reason we have won.
And I agree, it's unrealistic to expect 4 to 5 per night. But it's not unrealistic to expect 3 per night when the average score is 3-2. When a goalie gives up less than 2, then it's hard to point the finger at the goalie or defense, like the original post I quoted did.

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11-28-2010, 08:35 PM
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was at the game. boys came out like sloths, but really deserved the win the way the played towards the end. sooo many devils fans trash talking. i pulled out my phone and pointed out the nhl standings the only comeback to that was "whoo caresssss"
its one game. flyers do this every year. as long as we don't drop to far in the standings i'm not worried. once we get these lines going steady for a while things will pick up.

forgot to mention. coatesy parked right next to us, we yelled for him to come have a beer with us. he laughed and said no, guess he's sobered up a bit

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was at the game. boys came out like sloths, but really deserved the win the way the played towards the end. sooo many devils fans trash talking. i pulled out my phone and pointed out the nhl standings the only comeback to that was "whoo caresssss"
its one game. flyers do this every year. as long as we don't drop to far in the standings i'm not worried. once we get these lines going steady for a while things will pick up.

forgot to mention. coatesy parked right next to us, we yelled for him to come have a beer with us. he laughed and said no, guess he's sobered up a bit
it must have been Vodka Day for him

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Also, blaming Boosh for that loss is dumber than blaming someone for getting breast cancer.

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Also, blaming Boosh for that loss is dumber than blaming someone for getting breast cancer.
Well, it is the person's fault for having breasts.

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Also, blaming Boosh for that loss is dumber than blaming someone for getting breast cancer.
It's a difficult situation, and classic Boucher. He played really well and kept us in it at stages but the only goal he conceded was a shocker. If only he could cut out some of these mental brainfarts.

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We don't have to dominate, but cmon. Our team for the talent it has is notoriously lazy and you don't have to blind to see that after last year. They take nights off. Its fine to lose a hockey game, but you have to at least try and they have a bad habit of that more than other hockey teams. The islanders had a nasty losing streak, but during that they played their hearts out even against the flyers which they lost 2-1. You can tell they gave a good effort all game. The flyers tend to have sort of lag and you think to yourself WTF. This team is good enough this year to win the cup no doubt, but its theirs to lose.

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We don't have to dominate, but cmon. Our team for the talent it has is notoriously lazy and you don't have to blind to see that after last year. They take nights off. Its fine to lose a hockey game, but you have to at least try and they have a bad habit of that more than other hockey teams. The islanders had a nasty losing streak, but during that they played their hearts out even against the flyers which they lost 2-1. You can tell they gave a good effort all game. The flyers tend to have sort of lag and you think to yourself WTF. This team is good enough this year to win the cup no doubt, but its theirs to lose.
This teams problems have had very little to do with being lazy. What they are is undisciplined (lots of PPs against) and have a fair number of players who aren't particularly great at scoring at even strength. Therefore, this teams special teams are really important... when they go into funks on the PP/PK it kills them quickly.

For example, what got John Stevens fired more than anything else last year was that the PP and PK both went in the tank at the same moment.

Lavy has done a good job of getting this team playing better even strength hockey, but you're not going to win every game... and he can't solve the fact that some of our best offensive players are mediocre even strength scorers (by good offensive player standards). Richards, for example, really relies on special teams (both PP and PK) to boost his point totals.

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This teams problems have had very little to do with being lazy. What they are is undisciplined (lots of PPs against) and have a fair number of players who aren't particularly great at scoring at even strength. Therefore, this teams special teams are really important... when they go into funks on the PP/PK it kills them quickly.

For example, what got John Stevens fired more than anything else last year was that the PP and PK both went in the tank at the same moment.

Lavy has done a good job of getting this team playing better even strength hockey, but you're not going to win every game... and he can't solve the fact that some of our best offensive players are mediocre even strength scorers (by good offensive player standards). Richards, for example, really relies on special teams (both PP and PK) to boost his point totals.
Well yeah penalties is part of being lazy because your playing out of position for the most part and not giving a crap where your stick is. Its all the same. We have enough scorers on this team to win most games. How many teams have as many talented offensive players like us? Sure we don't have a superstar, but our depth is what saves us. I look at other teams with half the talent and they play at their best more so than us. I know we can't win all 82 games, but i expect the players to come out and play a full 60 win or lose.

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Ah the good old lazy argument is back in full force. Without fail.

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Ah the good old lazy argument is back in full force. Without fail.
Of course. Nothing says lazy like going 6-2-2 in 10 games in 17 days.

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Well yeah penalties is part of being lazy because your playing out of position for the most part and not giving a crap where your stick is. Its all the same. We have enough scorers on this team to win most games. How many teams have as many talented offensive players like us? Sure we don't have a superstar, but our depth is what saves us. I look at other teams with half the talent and they play at their best more so than us. I know we can't win all 82 games, but i expect the players to come out and play a full 60 win or lose.
The penalties this team takes have very little to do with lazy, and a lot to do with stupid.

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