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11-29-2010, 12:29 PM
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Just looked at Santorellis ice time on NHL.com. He is averaging over 17 miinutes of ice time! What a great move for him. Would be interesting, had Wilson been given the same, what his numbers would be.......who knows

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11-29-2010, 12:34 PM
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Peverly wasn't going to succeed here, same with Santo. Too many centers. Jones I am still salty about. I would rather have Jones than Belak.

On the subject of Wilson, look what happens when you put him on a line with Sergei and Goc, he scores a goal. Maybe good linemates=better results. Who would've thunk it.
EVERY one of us who made the point that it was tough to expect Leggy to do much scoring with Wardo and Stonehands as his linemates last year!

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11-29-2010, 02:30 PM
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Just looked at Santorellis ice time on NHL.com. He is averaging over 17 miinutes of ice time! What a great move for him. Would be interesting, had Wilson been given the same, what his numbers would be.......who knows
I was going to post some sarcastic response about how horrible Florida is, then I saw we only have 3 more points

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11-29-2010, 07:22 PM
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Just looked at Santorellis ice time on NHL.com. He is averaging over 17 miinutes of ice time! What a great move for him. Would be interesting, had Wilson been given the same, what his numbers would be.......who knows
That might start to become cause for concern. One guy is an aberration. Two is a coincidence. Three is a trend.

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Just looked at Santorellis ice time on NHL.com. He is averaging over 17 miinutes of ice time! What a great move for him. Would be interesting, had Wilson been given the same, what his numbers would be.......who knows
Not sure what you're looking at, the NHL.com I was looking at has him at 14:47 a game. Still a good move for him.

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11-29-2010, 08:34 PM
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That might start to become cause for concern. One guy is an aberration. Two is a coincidence. Three is a trend.
Totally agreed. I'm not on a fire Trotz bandwagon but this is not a good trend...

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11-29-2010, 09:07 PM
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Am I missing something? Santorelli has 9 points in 22 games getting 15 minutes a game and plenty of PP time. So impressive

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11-29-2010, 09:13 PM
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Am I missing something? Santorelli has 9 points in 22 games getting 15 minutes a game and plenty of PP time. So impressive
He would be tied for the goal scoring lead on our team and we traded him away, we need more goal scoring.

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11-29-2010, 09:25 PM
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i don't keep track but i don't remember anyone getting upset about santorelli when it happened....

i don't recall that we had space to keep him............before everyone got hurt

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Not sure what you're looking at, the NHL.com I was looking at has him at 14:47 a game. Still a good move for him.
In his last 5 games, his least amount was 15 30,15:56, 18, 19 and 20 minutes.

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11-29-2010, 10:15 PM
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He would be tied for the goal scoring lead on our team and we traded him away, we need more goal scoring.
That's still not saying much. We really had to keep either Cal or Santo. Winning teams would not ice both of those guys on their NHL roster. (Not that were a winning team but I think you see what I'm getting at) We have enough tweener guys. I think we made the right decision keeping Cal.

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11-29-2010, 10:25 PM
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That's still not saying much. We really had to keep either Cal or Santo. Winning teams would not ice both of those guys on their NHL roster. (Not that were a winning team but I think you see what I'm getting at) We have enough tweener guys. I think we made the right decision keeping Cal.
Agreed 100%. IMO, Cal showed the team a very strong work ethic and positive attitude throughout the end of last season as he worked his tail off after every practice knowing that he was a scratch and wanting to be ready for his opportunity.

I think that time spent in Nashville last season (and the fact that he's actually shown the ability to play defense) was what really made the decision easier for the club this past summer...

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11-30-2010, 10:09 AM
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We tried to move Santo to wing, correct? and he struggled? Cause really, Cal clearly beat him out for the 4th C spot (plus we had Smitty and Spaling who you figured would center a "grind line" if needed). Santo over SK would make sense if he could play wing, but otherwise before the injuries I don't know where we'd have played him.

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11-30-2010, 10:29 AM
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Yeah, who needs guys that can score when you have guys that can kill penalties and play defense.

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11-30-2010, 10:42 AM
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Yeah, who needs guys that can score when you have guys that can kill penalties and play defense.
Do you not understand that just because Santorelli scored some goals in Florida that doesn't mean he would have scored those goals for us? If Santorelli was still here then that means he would have taken ice time and points away from guys like O'Reilly and Goc and we'd be in the exact same position that we are in now.

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I would rather have Jones than Belak.
You would rather have Jones sitting in the press box over Belak? Wow... The things people complain about! Btw, even if you meant him playing, then that means you would rather have Jones over SK. I disagree. Oh, and Belak's role is enforcer. Period. Jones couldn't enforce Tootoo, much less Boogard.

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Am I missing something? Santorelli has 9 points in 22 games getting 15 minutes a game and plenty of PP time. So impressive
9 points in 22 games?!?!?! Man! I want him!!!

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He would be tied for the goal scoring lead on our team and we traded him away, we need more goal scoring.
Trigg, I gotta say, if our system is so defensive (like most say on here), is playing in a more offensive one in Florida, and he would only be tied for our team in goal scoring; I don't think that translates to him being tied for goal scoring here using logic.

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Do you not understand that just because Santorelli scored some goals in Florida that doesn't mean he would have scored those goals for us? If Santorelli was still here then that means he would have taken ice time and points away from guys like O'Reilly and Goc and we'd be in the exact same position that we are in now.
Agree...

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11-30-2010, 02:57 PM
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Do you not understand that just because Santorelli scored some goals in Florida that doesn't mean he would have scored those goals for us? If Santorelli was still here then that means he would have taken ice time and points away from guys like O'Reilly and Goc and we'd be in the exact same position that we are in now.
Cause Goc and O'Reilly are the only two centers on wing. Also, I've not seen to many centers that couldn't play wing, wing is way easier.

And why would anyone think right now SK is better than Jones? Tootoo is putting up better numbers than SK...

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11-30-2010, 03:09 PM
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Cause Goc and O'Reilly are the only two centers on wing. Also, I've not seen to many centers that couldn't play wing, wing is way easier.

And why would anyone think right now SK is better than Jones? Tootoo is putting up better numbers than SK...
Santorelli is playing center for Florida and failed at wing while here. He is a center.

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i think any team playing sk, santorelli, or jones big minutes is a failure.

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11-30-2010, 03:53 PM
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Cause Goc and O'Reilly are the only two centers on wing. Also, I've not seen to many centers that couldn't play wing, wing is way easier.

And why would anyone think right now SK is better than Jones? Tootoo is putting up better numbers than SK...


Of course Tootoo has better numbers, he has had WAY more
ice time!

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I think you guys aren't giving SK enough credit, I mean he hasn't exactly lit the lamp a bunch but he's certainly looked better then Santorelli and Jones.

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Santorelli is playing center for Florida and failed at wing while here. He is a center.
Because you saw them do it 3 hole games, it must be true...

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