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11-28-2010, 02:14 AM
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Buf/SJ trade partners?

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklun...Kesler/1/31757

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On the Sabres and Sharks....

Sources close to both teams are telling me tonight they are on alert essentially and in Buffalo they are hearing the Sharks may sending some scoring help their way, and in San Jose whispers of "the first major trade of the NHL season...and it could involve us."
I know it's Eklund....I know.

However, it makes sense for Buffalo to be looking around for offense at this point. Could we snag Clowe? Maybe Setoguchi? Can't really think of anyone else Regier might be interested in.

I would love to see Clowe in a Buffalo jersey. What would you give for a guy like him to step into our top 6?

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What does the Sharks need ??? Defense ??? I don't want to see Myers or Sekera leaving, they can pick anything else if they give us a player capable to play in Connolly's line and moving Hecht where he should be ie 3rd line !!!

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No one trades anymore.

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i dont see the fit....

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Well the world seems to think we have good puck moving defensemen. Obviously they don't watch our powerplay.

Shot in the dark but I would love either one of Pavelski/Couture.

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They sure as hell ain't trading Couture, and didn't they just extend Pavelski?

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Rivet to SJ for a pick . this will be THE major trade . lol

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Setogouchi would be one of the few scorers I could see San Jose trading.

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11-28-2010, 10:31 AM
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Setogouchi would be one of the few scorers I could see San Jose trading.
Judging by his size, its not a scorer Buffalo really needs, do we?

I mean, a big body on the RW for Vanek and Roy and an entire new 2nd line is needed.
Ennis is good with Vanek and Roy, but they aren't a consistent scoring threat as a line on a nightly basis. They are the best we have though.

I just happen to think that Ennis and Kassian centered by Luke Adam next season is going to make a potent 3rd scoring line.

I think people tend to forget that the 05-06 and 06-07 seasons we rolled 3 effective scoring lines and the youngsters back then (Vanek, Pommers, Roy, Stafford and even Goose) were contributing on a consistent basis.
Of course, Drury and Briere made that team what it was. But still, the fact remains that we did roll 3 scoring lines.

On this team we are barely rolling 1 scoring line.
Regier built a winner once, I think he's afraid to make any significant moves, just my take on it though.

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11-28-2010, 11:05 AM
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Butler + Pominville + 1st = Heatley !!!! (e5)

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Rivet to SJ for a pick . this will be THE major trade . lol
I'd take it.

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Oops, wrong thread.

And I doubt the Sharks move any centers.

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They sure as hell ain't trading Couture, and didn't they just extend Pavelski?
Hence the "shot in the dark."

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I highly doubt the Sharks will trade either Pavelski or Couture. In fact, I'm almost positive they won't.

Clowe, like many of us Sabres fans have said, is the type of player we need right now. We as fans have coveted him since at least last season now. If we were able to get him without sending any core players out, I'd be ecstatic.

The Sharks need a top 4 D-man. Sekera has been playing like one so far this year and now that he has I don't want him going anywhere. Myers is obviously untouchable, Monty has been arguably our best D-man all season long, and Leopold and Morrisonn were just signed in the summer. That leaves Butler and Weber. Weber's looked very good and Butler leaves question marks. I doubt either gets us Clowe but we really can't afford to trade any other D-men.

I really don't have interest in Setoguchi. He's shown he can be inconsistent and only put up big numbers when he was on Thornton's line. We have no centers capable of being the player Thornton is. Clowe on the other hand is the type of player we need and would bring so much to this team.

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I highly doubt the Sharks will trade either Pavelski or Couture. In fact, I'm almost positive they won't.

Clowe, like many of us Sabres fans have said, is the type of player we need right now. We as fans have coveted him since at least last season now. If we were able to get him without sending any core players out, I'd be ecstatic.

The Sharks need a top 4 D-man. Sekera has been playing like one so far this year and now that he has I don't want him going anywhere. Myers is obviously untouchable, Monty has been arguably our best D-man all season long, and Leopold and Morrisonn were just signed in the summer. That leaves Butler and Weber. Weber's looked very good and Butler leaves question marks. I doubt either gets us Clowe but we really can't afford to trade any other D-men.

I really don't have interest in Setoguchi. He's shown he can be inconsistent and only put up big numbers when he was on Thornton's line. We have no centers capable of being the player Thornton is. Clowe on the other hand is the type of player we need and would bring so much to this team.
I think Stafford and Butler is a pretty fair return for Clowe. Stafford has been decent this year and he might still have some untapped potential that a change of scenery could bring out. Not to mention the fact that Stafford will likely be cheaper than Clowe.

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The spelling and grammar on that site make my eyes bleed.
Totally agree. It's so unprofessional and always wrong, I'm not sure why anyone bothers. I guess it's just desperation. Coverage of the Sabres in Buffalo is so weak.

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I think Stafford and Butler is a pretty fair return for Clowe. Stafford has been decent this year and he might still have some untapped potential that a change of scenery could bring out. Not to mention the fact that Stafford will likely be cheaper than Clowe.
Stafford is injured and Butler can't lock down a roster spot.

I don't think San Jose does that deal the way it is. I think Butler could excel on a better team with a consistent partner though.

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I highly doubt the Sharks will trade either Pavelski or Couture. In fact, I'm almost positive they won't.

Clowe, like many of us Sabres fans have said, is the type of player we need right now. We as fans have coveted him since at least last season now. If we were able to get him without sending any core players out, I'd be ecstatic.

The Sharks need a top 4 D-man. Sekera has been playing like one so far this year and now that he has I don't want him going anywhere. Myers is obviously untouchable, Monty has been arguably our best D-man all season long, and Leopold and Morrisonn were just signed in the summer. That leaves Butler and Weber. Weber's looked very good and Butler leaves question marks. I doubt either gets us Clowe but we really can't afford to trade any other D-men.

I really don't have interest in Setoguchi. He's shown he can be inconsistent and only put up big numbers when he was on Thornton's line. We have no centers capable of being the player Thornton is. Clowe on the other hand is the type of player we need and would bring so much to this team.
As is normal, none of the fans want to give on their better players for another teams better players. Sharks need a top 4 puck moving defenseman. The only top-6 players who most Sharks board members see with the potential to move are Seto followed by Clowe. Marleau, Thornton, Heatley, Couture, Pavelski would be untouchable one would think.

Since Clowe was just made an alternate captain, that complicates things. Seto just signed a one year deal at a discount to stay so that complicates things as well.

I doubt Butler or Webber fit the Sharks needs for either a top-4 player or a puck mover, nor would Montador. Our board is particularly down on Montador. Leopold is probably untouchable from your teams perspective but fits the bill for us. Myers is a non-starter for you obviously, but several on our board make the trade.

I would suspect the only players close to fitting a possible trade might be Seto or Clowe for Sekera .... not that I give any credence to the source of the rumor.

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I dont think san jose will trade anyone. they spent the whole off season shoring up there entire team from ufa to rfa.

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As is normal, none of the fans want to give on their better players for another teams better players. Sharks need a top 4 puck moving defenseman. The only top-6 players who most Sharks board members see with the potential to move are Seto followed by Clowe. Marleau, Thornton, Heatley, Couture, Pavelski would be untouchable one would think.

Since Clowe was just made an alternate captain, that complicates things. Seto just signed a one year deal at a discount to stay so that complicates things as well.

I doubt Butler or Webber fit the Sharks needs for either a top-4 player or a puck mover, nor would Montador. Our board is particularly down on Montador. Leopold is probably untouchable from your teams perspective but fits the bill for us. Myers is a non-starter for you obviously, but several on our board make the trade.

I would suspect the only players close to fitting a possible trade might be Seto or Clowe for Sekera .... not that I give any credence to the source of the rumor.
I would most certainly be interested in a deal based around Clowe for Leopold.

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I would most certainly be interested in a deal based around Clowe for Leopold.
So San Jose trades their best power forward for an offensive defenseman when they need, at least in my opinion, a defensive defenseman?
Makes complete sense.
Regardless, Leopold was just signed and has a limited NTC.
I know everyone here has a fascination with Clowe and covets him just like Stoll, but I don't see it happening.

And no, Rivet to SJ will probably not happen as apparently there was bad blood between the two sides when he was traded to us.

I could see Stafford + Butler for Setoguchi and someone else.

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Setogouchi for Pomminville

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I would most certainly be interested in a deal based around Clowe for Leopold.
While some on our board would probably take that as the core of a trade, it would be a difficult trade for me to make personally.

Clowe has some unique talents with size, soft hands, sees the ice very well, one of the best passers on the team after Thornton, leader in the dressing room, and is a solid fighter if needed. Strong on the boards, his worse issue is he's slow (not good at back checking) but can carve well and protect the puck out high with his body and long reach on offense. He's also in his prime with a reasonable contract. Many on our board would prefer Leopold, but his age and contract term would cause me concern since Wallin, Boyle, Murray and Huskins all over 30 already on our team.

Seto for Leopold is not the trade you would want to make, though Seto's shot, speed and physical play, defense, and upside at 23 should be appealing. He lacks strong passing ability at this stage and is still learning the pro game, so consistency can be a problem as a consequence. That trade will also not work under the teams caps.

IF there were a trade to be made, Sekera for Seto seems more equal to me. Sekera has a $1,000 one year cap hit before becoming an RFA. He's 24 and has 181 NHL games under his belt. Seto is 23 with a $1,800 cap hit and 216 NHL games of experience. Both have holes in their games and both have strong upside for the future and reasonably close cap hits.

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http://www.mercurynews.com/sharks/ci_16738631

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But Niclas Wallin (lower body), Kent Huskins (upper body) and Devin Setoguchi (upper body) didn't skate at Monday's practice and join Jason Demers (upper body) as being listed as day-to-day.
SJ has a beat up blueline and Setoguchi is struggling immensely offensively with 7 pts in 21 gp and a -7.

http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar/hoc...cgi?pts-sj-all

Add in that SJ is really close to the cap and it makes things tricky.

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