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12-02-2010, 03:56 PM
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Feel bad for Carolina. That is one well-run organization, with very good on-ice results, all accomplished under strict budgets. It's really too bad they're in such a bad hockey market, those guys in a real market with a proper fan base and a big budget would be most impressive.
Feel bad for Toronto. That is one big money making organization, with terrible on-ice results, all accomplished at the salary cap budget max. It's really too bad they have such bad ownership, those guys have a real market with a proper fan base and a big budget but are least impressive.

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We are situated in a top 5 media market.
Since when did DC become a top 5 media market?

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Forbes doesn't include revenue sharing does it? A few of those teams in the red qualify for a bit.

Teams like the Sharks, Sabres, Senators and Wild also seem to be purposefully spending over their operating budget so I wouldn't be too worried about them. Even the Panthers have tons of nearby real-estate to cash-in on, and NYI has that sick cable deal .

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Since when did DC become a top 5 media market?
Maybe he meant Top 10?

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Forbes doesn't include revenue sharing does it? A few of those teams in the red qualify for a bit.

Teams like the Sharks, Sabres, Senators and Wild also seem to be purposefully spending over their operating budget so I wouldn't be too worried about them. Even the Panthers have tons of nearby real-estate to cash-in on, and NYI has that sick cable deal .
Based on comments in previous Forbes articles I believe they attempt to include revenue sharing.

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Or that Dallas is very cost efficient. Tom Hicks also owns the Cowboys right? Are they part of a same corporation? My guess is cost synergies?

Debt does usually have an adverse effect on value. Take chicago and Vancouver. same operating income. Vancouver has high debt. Vancouver has lower value.
No. Jerry Jones owns the Cowboys. Hicks has owned 3 major league sports franchises:
Texas Rangers who were put into bankruptcy earlier this year, sold at bankruptcy auction and which Tom Hicks made no profit from the sale.
Liverpool Football Club whose board voted to essentially sell the team without the consent of Hicks and Gillett for 150 million pounds less than the owners wanted. They are still fighting in court to get any kind of money back under the label of "damages".
Dallas Stars currently for sale, but the lenders are in complete control of the team and have been all this season. Tom Hicks essentially has no say in anything at this point. The lenders are asking so much money that none of the interested purchasers are willing to pay it.

Hicks will have sold 3 major sports franchises (when the Stars are sold) within the last year and will not make a profit on any of them.

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Bettman devalues Forbes' NHL franchise evaluations. In this case, I agree with him.

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