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12-08-2010, 11:59 AM
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Not a big deal, he wasn't invited when they had a camp late summer don't know why they would have invited him now. Not a big deal
Tinordi was at the Summer Evaluation Camp in Lake Placid in August.

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12-08-2010, 12:05 PM
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Tinordi was at the Summer Evaluation Camp in Lake Placid in August.
Yaeh my bad, I don't know why but I thought I remembered him not being there, must be getting mixed up with another player

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12-08-2010, 12:20 PM
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Where's everyone that was saying Hunter would turn him into a monster?

I'm still wishing we had picked Etem. Man, that guy is going to be a beast. What a shame.

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http://blogues.cyberpresse.ca/lnh/20...i-ny-sera-pas/

Voici ce que me racontait il y a quelques instants un recruteur d’une équipe de l’est dans la LNH à son sujet:

“J’aimais ce choix du Canadien, et je le repêcherais probablement à nouveau à leur place (au 22e rang). Mais il connaît une saison très moyenne. Il n’a pas amélioré la souplesse et la vitesse de ses mains. Il n’est pas robuste de façon régulière. Sans dire que c’est laborieux, il ne progresse pas beaucoup. Ça ne veut pas dire pour autant qu’il ne jouera pas dans la LNH. Le processus sera long dans son cas. Il aura besoin d’au moins deux saisons dans les rangs juniors.”

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12-08-2010, 02:03 PM
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http://blogues.cyberpresse.ca/lnh/20...i-ny-sera-pas/

Voici ce que me racontait il y a quelques instants un recruteur d’une équipe de l’est dans la LNH à son sujet:

“J’aimais ce choix du Canadien, et je le repêcherais probablement à nouveau à leur place (au 22e rang). Mais il connaît une saison très moyenne. Il n’a pas amélioré la souplesse et la vitesse de ses mains. Il n’est pas robuste de façon régulière. Sans dire que c’est laborieux, il ne progresse pas beaucoup. Ça ne veut pas dire pour autant qu’il ne jouera pas dans la LNH. Le processus sera long dans son cas. Il aura besoin d’au moins deux saisons dans les rangs juniors.”
Bust!!! Fire Gainey! Fire Timonss!

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12-08-2010, 02:05 PM
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Where's everyone that was saying Hunter would turn him into a monster?

I'm still wishing we had picked Etem. Man, that guy is going to be a beast. What a shame.
I look at it this way, Tinordi has a chance to be a mix of Chara and Pronger(less offense), so in that sense it was a "swing for the fence" type pick, which I like. If he doesn't pan out and we missed out on a Derek Roy or Cammalleri, then I'll be pissed, but if we missed out on the next Justin Williams or Jarett Stoll, no big deal.

I'd like to see him have a better second half, same for Kristo and Qualier(though he is returning from a bad injury).

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12-08-2010, 02:52 PM
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It's too bad he didn't even get invited back, especially coming from the USNDTP since Team USA seems to have a clear basis towards their USNDTP players. But going into the tournament, they are the favorite and their strength is likely their blueline, so I'm not worried that he didn't make it this year, but hope he can make it next year.

I was impressed with what I saw from him in preseason action, so it will be interesting to see where he is at in 2 years.

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12-08-2010, 05:24 PM
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You know, i didn't know where to say this and it isn't a shot at Tinordi by any means but I remember at the draft hoping the habs would move up and take Cam Fowler. Rookie year, over .5PPG. I mean, anyone could say that right? He was a top 3 ranked skater. Just annoys me, I really felt we should take that chance and I could only dream of a future D-core of a healthy markov, fowler, and subban. Too bad we don't take chances sometimes and move up, that's life. Tinordi will be a good player in his own style but there's no denying Fowler will be more of an impact d-man.

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12-08-2010, 06:08 PM
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Just to get things back on even kilter. Has Tinordi been a dominant D player in the OHL? No he hasn't and that is probably largely based on the low offensive production.

He has logged a lot of TOI for the Knights this year. And the Knights have had a terrible time in the scoring dept. So a -6 does not surprise at all

The kid has 3 months under his belt playing in one of the best Jr leagues in the world. Defense is the least of the Knight's problems. Scoring and the PP are the biggest headaches in that order. Not much Tinordi can do about that

What he does need to do is bulk up so he can dominate along the boards. Right now he relies on his reach

He needs to develop some kind of shot. He rarely slaps it. Most of the time it is a wrister

Skating skills remain a real strength

I think a lot of folks are letting expectations get in the way of a fair assessment. His play has progressed. He is playing against tough competition which will only improve he play more

Relax folks. Not getting invited to the camp is not the end of the world

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12-08-2010, 06:34 PM
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You know, i didn't know where to say this and it isn't a shot at Tinordi by any means but I remember at the draft hoping the habs would move up and take Cam Fowler. Rookie year, over .5PPG. I mean, anyone could say that right? He was a top 3 ranked skater. Just annoys me, I really felt we should take that chance and I could only dream of a future D-core of a healthy markov, fowler, and subban. Too bad we don't take chances sometimes and move up, that's life. Tinordi will be a good player in his own style but there's no denying Fowler will be more of an impact d-man.
Moving up over 10 spots in the first round is pretty impossible. Asking price would have been to rich.

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12-08-2010, 06:49 PM
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Moving up over 10 spots in the first round is pretty impossible. Asking price would have been to rich.
Yes, it would've been, I won't deny that. Still for a player of Fowler's talent, it's an easy choice for me.

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12-08-2010, 07:13 PM
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Price was snubbed/got cut a few years back too.

"Chill".


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I wanted Quinton Howden.

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12-09-2010, 07:32 AM
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Oh, and Kevin Lind has more goals (and points) than Tinordi does at London at Notre Dame and as many points as Riley Sheahan.

Not bad for a guy that was one dimensional and probably didn't have the talent to make it in the NHL. Just saying.

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12-09-2010, 08:31 AM
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Tinordi, please, please do not turn into O'Byrne, Fisher, McDonagh. Don't you find that size is very over-rated in NHL.

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I had a bad feeling about our Draft day moves. And it's turning to be right. We traded away a 2nd rounder for Tinordi.. And in my opinion Tinordi would have been avalaible later in the first amyway.. Timmins..

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12-09-2010, 09:43 AM
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I had a bad feeling about our Draft day moves. And it's turning to be right. We traded away a 2nd rounder for Tinordi.. And in my opinion Tinordi would have been avalaible later in the first amyway.. Timmins..
There were some reports that Vancouver were really high on Tinordi and when the Canadiens traded up to draft him, Vancouver pulled the trigger on the Ballard trade. I don't remember the exact source though.

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You know, i didn't know where to say this and it isn't a shot at Tinordi by any means but I remember at the draft hoping the habs would move up and take Cam Fowler. Rookie year, over .5PPG. I mean, anyone could say that right? He was a top 3 ranked skater. Just annoys me, I really felt we should take that chance and I could only dream of a future D-core of a healthy markov, fowler, and subban. Too bad we don't take chances sometimes and move up, that's life. Tinordi will be a good player in his own style but there's no denying Fowler will be more of an impact d-man.
It would have been quite a move, Fowler went 12th to a team looking for young d-men and we had the 25th pick. Would have at least cost us the 2011 1st plus maybe more.

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Tinordi, please, please do not turn into O'Byrne, Fisher, McDonagh. Don't you find that size is very over-rated in NHL.
Realistically, if he turns out to be O'Byrne (20 mins a night regular NHL D right now with COL), then that's probably sort of a "par" outcome for what we could have hoped for in drafting Tinordi. I don't know anybody who was predicting more than that from Tinordi? If we had hopes for better than par, it probably would have focused on any extra toughness/leadership elements he could bring, but not for more talent/production than an O'Byrne or say Hal Gill. The "below par" outcome of not making the NHL is a possible outcome for any pick at that point in the draft.

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Bottom line is this: he's been sub par so far this year in London.

Does that mean he is a bust? No.
Is it somewhat worrisome from a Habs perspective? It has to be...

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we need him to be properly developed, we (i) need my mini-pronger!

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He's 18 how many 18-year-olds do you guys know making a national team?

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Tinordi, please, please do not turn into O'Byrne, Fisher, McDonagh. Don't you find that size is very over-rated in NHL.
Size is over rated if that is all a player has. A large mobile player on the other hand makes a huge difference

This kid is still a teen. When he puts on 25 lbs of man muscle coupled with his good skating skills, you will have something a lot better than your list (Fisher? why mention him)

If this kid had any kind of shot from the point, nobody would be complaining about anything right now

The Habs have 3 years to build this kid up. There is no rush here

PS: Everybody was saying the Habs are too small. This is a step in the right direction to fix that

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He's 18 how many 18-year-olds do you guys know making a national team?
This question makes no sense.

How many examples do you need of 18 year olds on Junior National Teams?

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this board sucks sometimes

he is 18

Its his first CHL season. Can you all relax.
WJC isnt always a measuring stick as we have seen great players not on the team, and guys on the team who have been busts.

Let him develop. Defencemen always take time to find their game. Give him time before you give him the "Fischer" label.

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