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12-12-2010, 01:23 PM
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With the Flames' first overall selection we choose...

Ken Holland from the Detroit Red Wings!

With the Flames' second overall pick via Toronto, we choose...

Mike Babcock of the Detroit Red Wings!



...if only.

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12-12-2010, 04:58 PM
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There are clearly 4 special prospects this year, followed by a wide open crap shoot. My top 4....

1) LW Nugent-Hopkins.
2) D Larsson
3) RW Landeskog
4) RW Couturier

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12-12-2010, 05:15 PM
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If the flames had the #1 overall pick, take Adam Larsson, no question. At this point, he is head and shoulders above Couturier and RNH. He is a player that a team can build around.

However, if the flames have their mind set on taking an offensive threat, trade down to the #3 spot and take one of SC or RNH.

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12-12-2010, 07:46 PM
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If the flames had the #1 overall pick, take Adam Larsson, no question. At this point, he is head and shoulders above Couturier and RNH. He is a player that a team can build around.

However, if the flames have their mind set on taking an offensive threat, trade down to the #3 spot and take one of SC or RNH.
I really hope your not being serious.

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12-12-2010, 08:17 PM
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If the flames had the #1 overall pick, take Adam Larsson, no question. At this point, he is head and shoulders above Couturier and RNH. He is a player that a team can build around.

However, if the flames have their mind set on taking an offensive threat, trade down to the #3 spot and take one of SC or RNH.
Huh? Do you know anything about the draft?

I'd say the overall consensus is that Couturier is going to go 1st overall. His only problem is his skating which can easily be worked on. RNH and Larsson will pry for 2nd. Sean is a big, tough forward with excellent hands and vision. He can create a play and finish them off. RNH is more of a passer, but does have finishing ability. There is no doubt that Couturier is a much better player between the 2 talent wise.

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Adam Larsson is the consensus #1 picking going into the 2011 Draft. As a 17 year old, he had already played in the Swedish Elite League. As an 18 year old, he set a record for the amount of points scored by a rookie. He has the complete package to become a franchise defense man. He was NHL ready last season.

While SC and RNH are both solid players, ones who will eventually become first line players in the NHL, neither of them has the potential of Adam Larsson.

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Adam Larsson is the consensus #1 picking going into the 2011 Draft. As a 17 year old, he had already played in the Swedish Elite League. As an 18 year old, he set a record for the amount of points scored by a rookie. He has the complete package to become a franchise defense man. He was NHL ready last season.

While SC and RNH are both solid players, ones who will eventually become first line players in the NHL, neither of them has the potential of Adam Larsson.
Hmmm.. how's his defensive game? Unless he's going to be a Pronger/Lidstrom type shut down d-man while also putting up points, I might pass. This team desperately needs a franchise centerman.

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12-12-2010, 09:10 PM
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Hmmm.. how's his defensive game? Unless he's going to be a Pronger/Lidstrom type shut down d-man while also putting up points, I might pass. This team desperately needs a franchise centerman.
Playing in the SEL as a 16-17 year old should give a good picture of his defensive game. Larsson is very tough to play against because of his solid positioning, as well as his physical attributes being 6'2, and 220lbs. He doesnt have a mean streak, but he knows how to use his body effectively.

His top attributes are definitely his decision making skills. He always makes the smart, simple and effective play in the defensive and offensive zone.

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Hmmm.. how's his defensive game? Unless he's going to be a Pronger/Lidstrom type shut down d-man while also putting up points, I might pass. This team desperately needs a franchise centerman.
He's been leading the SEL in +/- for most of the year. He turned 18 a month ago.

By far the best player in the draft.

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12-12-2010, 10:37 PM
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Well, Islanders are looking like they are going to have the best chance at the #1, but if we are able to pick Larsson, whose going go? JBo? Reggie? Gio even?

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12-12-2010, 10:41 PM
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Playing in the SEL as a 16-17 year old should give a good picture of his defensive game. Larsson is very tough to play against because of his solid positioning, as well as his physical attributes being 6'2, and 220lbs. He doesnt have a mean streak, but he knows how to use his body effectively.

His top attributes are definitely his decision making skills. He always makes the smart, simple and effective play in the defensive and offensive zone.

We don't need a Defensemen, If we are given a choice between a dman or a centerman, taking an centerman would be more logical and doing anything else would be poor management

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What would it take to acquire another high end pick? Can Jbo or Reggie fetch that?

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We don't need a Defensemen, If we are given a choice between a dman or a centerman, taking an centerman would be more logical and doing anything else would be poor management
Passing on the better player is poor management.

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At this point first pick has to be Larsson. If we want a centre I don't mind us trading down to 2nd or 3rd overall.

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12-13-2010, 12:07 AM
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What would it take to acquire another high end pick? Can Jbo or Reggie fetch that?
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12-13-2010, 02:16 AM
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Adam Larsson is the consensus #1 picking going into the 2011 Draft. As a 17 year old, he had already played in the Swedish Elite League. As an 18 year old, he set a record for the amount of points scored by a rookie. He has the complete package to become a franchise defense man. He was NHL ready last season.

While SC and RNH are both solid players, ones who will eventually become first line players in the NHL, neither of them has the potential of Adam Larsson.
What you fail to mention is that Larsson is having a sub par year by his standards. He's been put on the third pairing behind David Rundblad and our own Tim Erixon. Offensively his game is nowhere near what it was last year. While he is still a top five pick, he's quite clearly dropped from "consensus 1st overall". Its possible he still goes first, but its no longer guaranteed.

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12-13-2010, 03:01 AM
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What you fail to mention is that Larsson is having a sub par year by his standards. He's been put on the third pairing behind David Rundblad and our own Tim Erixon. Offensively his game is nowhere near what it was last year. While he is still a top five pick, he's quite clearly dropped from "consensus 1st overall". Its possible he still goes first, but its no longer guaranteed.
Leading the SEL in +/- is having a sub par year?

The kid just turned 18 a month ago.

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Leading the SEL in +/- is having a sub par year?

The kid just turned 18 a month ago.
It was in a Larsson thread a while ago, that he was struggling part way into the season. Does +/- solely determine how good a player is performing? I don't think so.

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It was in a Larsson thread a while ago, that he was struggling part way into the season. Does +/- solely determine how good a player is performing? I don't think so.
Larsson has not been struggling this year. By looking only at his offensive stats, than yes, his numbers are down. However, that can be attributed to David Rundblad's offensive breakout season which has limited Larsson's overall ice time. This doesnt mean Larsson has regressed, it simply shows the huge improvements of Rundblad.

Although +/- is not the most accurate indicator of defensive abilities, it does give some indication of how well a player is doing.

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It was in a Larsson thread a while ago, that he was struggling part way into the season. Does +/- solely determine how good a player is performing? I don't think so.
As someone who has seen him play 10-12 times this year, he is not struggling in any way shape or form.

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As someone who has seen him play 10-12 times this year, he is not struggling in any way shape or form.
Well there is no clear sign he is the best prospect available like people seem to believe.

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There are clearly 4 special prospects this year, followed by a wide open crap shoot. My top 4....

1) LW Nugent-Hopkins.
2) D Larsson
3) RW Landeskog
4) RW Couturier
Nugent is a center, not LW. Plays the left side on the PP sometimes but he is a center.

Lot of potential to be an amazing playmaker, also, I think he's going to gain some considerable size and strength in the next couple of years, which will help him in the big leagues.

Debil, yeah, he's a PPG... he's also 17. 17! He has 4 more years to physiologically grow and then time after that to get bigger and stronger! Obviously you can never be sure how a prospect will turn out, but watch this kid play, don't just look at his stats... there's a LOT of upside there.

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I really don't give a damn if Larsson is the bets player in the draft. We need forwards, offense, etc. This is not a knock on Larsson, but when an organization has a chronic problem with a certain position, it should be addressed when given the opportunity in the draft.

If we were to somehow get the #1 overall pick we should trade down as far as #4, so we can get one of Courtier, Nugent-Hopkins, or Landeskrog, plus a prospect from the trade deal.

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You guys should also realize, they were expecting more out of RNH this year based on his growth last year here in Red Deer. Another note on him, he's 150 pounds, putting up over a PPG in the physical WHL.... You can put him in the weight room and add to his frame, he'll forsurely bulk up.

Another thing I like about RNH, he is more of a play maker, look what SJ has done with Thornton, they put guys like Mihalek, Setoguchi, Cheechoo on his line, make them look good scoring 50 goals, and trade them for great players that are really good (Heatley). That is a brilliant way to keep getting better, put an average Jo with him, score 50, then trade him while he's worth the most ever.

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Obviously a forward, most probably a center, this team needs more offensive skill

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