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12-13-2010, 12:09 PM
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12-13-2010, 12:10 PM
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IMO the ideal lines would be

Cammalleri-Plekanec-Kostitsyn
Pacioretty-Gomez*-Gionta
Pouliot-Eller-Darche
Moen-Halpern-Lapierre


* = If Gomez can't play Habs call up Desharnais to sub-in.

I really don't understand JM's reason or loveness of having Moen on a Top 2 line. Pacioretty got called up, i think it was a bad move. Wanted Patches to be alone, in the AHL loging big minutes. If you get him in the NHL play him with good players and good ice time.
You're lines are exactly what I want to see and makes the most sense to me if Gomez is playing.. Moen and Laps on the bottom 6 were they belong and the one dimensional Pyatt watching from the pressbox..

If the lines in the OP 's post were confirmed for Wednesday's game though I would have a lot more to say but one can only hope it will change before game day and I suspect it will...

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12-13-2010, 12:12 PM
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If Gorges needs treatment every single day, how about sitting him for a couple of games. Geez, this is not the playoffs or the end of the year. Some break so it will pay off later.
Agreed. It's also been showing during the games IMO. He's not as solid.
I think now it's more difficult because Spacek got injured, but we had Weber-Picard-Subban alternating the 7th spot for a while. Gorges could have been given a game or two off.
It reminds me a little of the beginning of last season when Gill played through an injury until he looked too crappy and then was sat out.

Unless we go into a very deep losing streak, I have a feeling the 8 teams we're now seeing in the top 8 will be the one going to the POs. Carolina is the only team I can see working its way up to the top 8 teams, at the cost of either TB-ATL, but I think we will struggle to make the PO this year (unless crazy injuries start happening again).

So we should be smart about how to treat certain players with minor injuries.

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12-13-2010, 12:15 PM
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Agreed. It's also been showing during the games IMO. He's not as solid.
I think now it's more difficult because Spacek got injured, but we had Weber-Picard-Subban alternating the 7th spot for a while. Gorges could have been given a game or two off.
It reminds me a little of the beginning of last season when Gill played through an injury until he looked too crappy and then was sat out.

Unless we go into a very deep losing streak, I have a feeling the 8 teams we're now seeing in the top 8 will be the one going to the POs. Carolina is the only team I can see working its way up to the top 8 teams, at the cost of either TB-ATL, but I think we will struggle to make the PO this year (unless crazy injuries start happening again).

So we should be smart about how to treat certain players with minor injuries.
Another prime example? Andrei Markov

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12-13-2010, 12:15 PM
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If the lines in the OP 's post were confirmed for Wednesday's game though I would have a lot more to say but one can only hope it will change before game day and I suspect it will...
I wonder when people will learn that these are just practice lines and mean nothing. Nothing at all.
What else, Boyd will actually play along side Gill?..

They are running drills. Whether you're on the 1st or 4th line, you run the same freaking drill. It matters very little who's next to you.

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12-13-2010, 12:20 PM
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Another prime example? Andrei Markov
Andrei Markov was expected to be back in November. He played his first game on October 30th. We weren't in any rush to bring him back and I don't think we did.
He was given the green light by the doctors and practice with the team for a good time before coming back. Perhaps he could have waited longer, but then again, he got the green light and we were in no rush.

We're talking about small injuries. Gill had a minor one in the first couple weeks of the season last year but played through it until we finally sat him out. When he came back he was much better.
Gorges is in the exact same situation imo. Markov wasn't.

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12-13-2010, 12:24 PM
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Andrei Markov was expected to be back in November. He played his first game on October 30th. We weren't in any rush to bring him back and I don't think we did.
He was given the green light by the doctors and practice with the team for a good time before coming back. Perhaps he could have waited longer, but then again, he got the green light and we were in no rush.

We're talking about small injuries. Gill had a minor one in the first couple weeks of the season last year but played through it until we finally sat him out. When he came back he was much better.
Gorges is in the exact same situation imo. Markov wasn't.
I'm saying we rushed him though. At least in minutes played when he was reinserted into the lineup. He played 19+ mins very early on. The team was doing very well, we didnt need him on the ice this long. Even if he practiced with the team and got the green light, I would have eased him in. But then again im just stating my opinion. The whole thing just feels rushed to me.

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12-13-2010, 12:29 PM
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In a way there is a certain benefit to having mixed lines like that because it allows the players to get to know each other on the ice a little more in the case that they do have to play together in a real game situation at least it wouldn't be like stepping out there with a complete stranger. Not to mention it allows the management to gauge what certain players can and can't do. Better try things out at practice than in a real game.

Either that or Martin is secretly wishing Pyatt had offensive skills

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12-13-2010, 12:33 PM
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Subban with Hamrlik. That could be the start of a good thing?

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12-13-2010, 12:35 PM
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I thought these two posts would go well together.

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Subban with Hamrlik. That could be the start of a good thing?
I would be very happy to see that. Picard is not exactly the easier partner for a rookie to play with and Hammer is the skating definition of stability on the backend.

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12-13-2010, 12:41 PM
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I'm saying we rushed him though. At least in minutes played when he was reinserted into the lineup. He played 19+ mins very early on. The team was doing very well, we didnt need him on the ice this long. Even if he practiced with the team and got the green light, I would have eased him in. But then again im just stating my opinion. The whole thing just feels rushed to me.
I don't think playing 10min or 20min changes much. When you're cleared to play, then you can play any amount of minutes. Yea, if you're not in great physical condition, then you might be more subject to injuries, like pulling your groin, or small stuff like that. But a complete tear in your knee shouldn't be a threat.
Markov actually played 23min in his first game and he actually looked better as the season progressed. I don't think he was rushed. I think either his knee is fragile or the doctors didn't do a great job in the surgery to begin with.

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12-13-2010, 12:43 PM
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I thought these two posts would go well together.
Win.

Thats the picture I thought of when I saw the troll post. I mean seriously.....just look at that pic.

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I would be very happy to see that. Picard is not exactly the easier partner for a rookie to play with and Hammer is the skating definition of stability on the backend.
Agreed. Maybe PK could use that veteran presence that he had last year. I thought they worked well together. Subban's already been playing the minutes and at least has some experience against top lines. Can Subban perform against the top lines as efficiently as Spacek? If so then when all are healthy.........

Hamrlik - Subban
Spacek - Weber (Spacek back on his natural side)
Gill - Gorges

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I will love to see something like this

Cammalleri-Plek-AK
Hagman-Gomez-Gionta
Paccioretty-Eller-Pouliot

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I will love to see something like this

Cammalleri-Plek-AK
Hagman-Gomez-Gionta
Paccioretty-Eller-Pouliot
If we did get hagman, I'd rather he play with the two youngins and patches with GnG

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I wonder when people will learn that these are just practice lines and mean nothing. Nothing at all.
What else, Boyd will actually play along side Gill?..

They are running drills. Whether you're on the 1st or 4th line, you run the same freaking drill. It matters very little who's next to you.
Which part of "one can only hope it will change before game day and I suspect it will" didn't you understand?

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OMG! I can't believe they are going to play Dustin Boyd on defense!!11!1!

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Cammalleri-Plekanec-Moen
Pacioretty-Pyatt-Gionta
Kostitsyn-Halpern-Lapierre
Pouliot-Eller-Darche

http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/311547.html

Gomez not practicing.
Relax. Chill.

Its only a practice.

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I'm more baffled at Moen on the 1st line than Pyatt on the 2nd. WHY is Moen still getting looks in the top 6? It just doesn't make sense to me. This is a guy with a career high of 21 points and 11 goals and AKost and Pouliot are on the 3rd and 4th lines. I remember after the first 2 games Pouliot was demoted to the 3rd line and everyone here was saying "don't worry Moen will be out of the top 6 within a few games", well it's been about 28 games and he's still there. Awful lines by Martin even if it is practice, IMO Moen brings the least out of all our forwards in the top 12 and is rewarded with top line minutes.

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I thought we fired Guy Carbonneau

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I dont care what the lines are as long as we win. It is Jacques Martin's job to make it work or screw it up so who cares.

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I never whine about coaching, but FFS. What the hell is this?

Edit: Phew, I jumped the gun and thought those were confirmed for wed.

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12-13-2010, 02:32 PM
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I expect DD to be called up again as soon as the Boyd situation is knew..

Max Pac will probably play on the second line with DD and Gio while Moen will probably complement the first line.. A.Kost has been **** lately so expect him to play on a bottom line for the next game..

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