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12-14-2010, 07:17 AM
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Armia has very close to a complete package. He is the kind of guy who, even as a bust, could be an effective 3rd line player.

Rink adjustment is not an issue, because he plays in the Finnish league amongst men and has done very well as a 17 year old there. Now it isnt on the level of the KHL or the SEL, but all pro scouts point towards this guy as a climber.

He protects the puck well, has a decent set of hands, ect. Another guy who looks like a potential 30 goal scorer.

Saad I think could be better than 30-30-60. But i'm no pro scout so, just my .02
like armia alot. power and finesse both.

his skating isnt great. hes fast but kinda plodding first few steps. that can get better.

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I guess the cats out of the bag with Michael St Croix for the 2011 draft. 21 points in his last 8 games. 42 points in 31 games overall.
LOL ya think? I have spoken to fitzy and a few others about this kid since he was 14

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LOL ya think? I have spoken to fitzy and a few others about this kid since he was 14
You here to get an apology about Lucic? Cuz you aint getting one until Couture pans out... oh wait.

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LOL ya think? I have spoken to fitzy and a few others about this kid since he was 14
Didn't he have like 79 goals in 30 games in AAA? Kid is good, looks like a Marc Savard out there, was hoping he'd fly under the radar, but like Johansen last year his stock is gonna keep rising.

But don't get excited, I've been told this draft is terrible

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our first plus a 2nd plus one of hagelin, werek, bourque, horak, grachev, thomas, etc. and valentenko for a top 4 pick??? That might even be redundant but it would only be getting rid of some organizational redundancy
That's not going to get a Top-4 pick, probably not even a Top-10. If you're moving up to the Top-4 from 17-22 area, you'll need to give 2 1st and at least 1 2nd round pick. To get to the Top-10 from 17-22, it'll probably take a 1st, 2nd this year and a 2nd next year and a mid-level prospect.

Grachev, Bourque, Thomas are RWs, in an organization lacking RW depth at the NHL level, they're not going to deal prospects who are close towards the pros for a chance at a RW prospect. That being said, none of the Top-4 teams in the draft are going to pass up Landeskog, Nugent-Hopkins, Couturier, or Larsson.

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12-14-2010, 03:09 PM
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if he were 6'1 200 lbs, st croix could go top 5

this kid is filthy

but he plays on a pretty brutal team

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if he were 6'1 200 lbs, st croix could go top 5

this kid is filthy

but he plays on a pretty brutal team
And yet he found a way to get 21 pints in his last 8 games

Yeah if he was bigger they'd be saying RYan-Nugent who?

Seriously, is he that much smaller than say Strome or Rieder?

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And yet he found a way to get 21 pints in his last 8 games

Yeah if he was bigger they'd be saying RYan-Nugent who?

Seriously, is he that much smaller than say Strome or Rieder?
I am shocked that RNH is as highly regarded as he is. I've seen him play a few times now and have never come away overly impressed with him. I'm not a huge Saad fan, either, but I'd take him over RNH right now.

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I am shocked that RNH is as highly regarded as he is. I've seen him play a few times now and have never come away overly impressed with him. I'm not a huge Saad fan, either, but I'd take him over RNH right now.
I'm also not a huge Saad fan, but RNH >>> Saad.

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12-14-2010, 06:08 PM
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I feel the same way about Nugent Hopkins that I did after seeing JVR in college.

overrated.

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like these 3 guys alot.

ive seen hamilton a few times in person. big dude.

lessio ive known about for a few years.

will see alex in person next month.

thoughts ?

lucas lessio F oshawa

alexander khokhlachev F windsor

dougie hamilton D niagara

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12-14-2010, 07:19 PM
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I feel the same way about Nugent Hopkins that I did after seeing JVR in college.

overrated.
whaaa? im sorry bro. this kid is flat out dirty. he has sublime hands. pure poetry.

hes very sakic like. slippery, smart and dangerous. he does pretty much everything at a very high level.

his game winner in the u18 hnlinka tourny was money.

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like these 3 guys alot.

ive seen hamilton a few times in person. big dude.

lessio ive known about for a few years.

will see alex in person next month.

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lucas lessio F oshawa

alexander khokhlachev F windsor

dougie hamilton D niagara
I don't like Lessio at all

Have only seen Alex once in person, didn't notice him at all really.

Hamilton I like alot, he definately is a big guy like you said. Strong defensively, good skater, the only offense I've seen from him comes on the PP, but he plays it well.


Really like Strome aswell, probably won't have a chance at him though...

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I don't like Lessio at all

Have only seen Alex once in person, didn't notice him at all really.

Hamilton I like alot, he definately is a big guy like you said. Strong defensively, good skater, the only offense I've seen from him comes on the PP, but he plays it well.


Really like Strome aswell, probably won't have a chance at him though...
as a player on the ice or from all the drama surrounding him ?

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as a player on the ice or from all the drama surrounding him ?
As a player, granted, I've only seen him live once, but on tv quite a few times. Just have never been impressed

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As a player, granted, I've only seen him live once, but on tv quite a few times. Just have never been impressed
hes a guy ive kinda followed for a few years and i can tell you this. hes a gifted player. a powerful, skilled forward.

i love the fact that he plays for adam graves' team. interesting dynamic there for us looking closely at him.

that marlies team was stacked and he was enormous for them

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hes a guy ive kinda followed for a few years and i can tell you this. hes a gifted player. a powerful, skilled forward.

i love the fact that he plays for adam graves' team. interesting dynamic there for us looking closely at him.

that marlies team was stacked and he was enormous for them
Entirely possible that I've just seen him on off nights...

The game I saw live was a game IN Niagara... He seemed to get rattled by the crowd lol.

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You here to get an apology about Lucic? Cuz you aint getting one until Couture pans out... oh wait.

lol thats happening to now huh 14 g 7 assists btw oh and Fitzy come SFHL time you best "hire" me as your outside consultant Acquire 2nd round picks like mad and I can harvest you 5 guys for serious domination long term lol. PS Trust in Dylan btw Fitzy you will love this kid.


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* Had a five-game point streak (6-2=8) from Dec. 2-9
* T-4th in League in game-winning goals (4), T-2nd in road goals (11), T-7th in even strength goals (11) and T-10th in goals (14)
* Amongst League rookies, he is 1st in goals, 1st shots (101), 1st in game-winning goals (4), T-1st in faceoff percentage (53.1%), 1st in power play goals (3) and 1st in points (14-7=21)
* 11th amongst League forwards in blocked shots (29)
* Has two shootout-deciding goals


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Wish I could catch some of the games, but I will be away from the internet during the championships.

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I think I am going to try and catch the game at RPI this Sunday. I am coming back from school to Albnay so hopefully I can make it back in time to catch the game and give a long report on Bourque and Kreider and possibly some of the younger players who are draft-eligible. I just hope they play Kreider and Bourque.

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should probably look in to him? or pherhaps wait and see how one norwegian midget gets on??

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I think I am going to try and catch the game at RPI this Sunday. I am coming back from school to Albnay so hopefully I can make it back in time to catch the game and give a long report on Bourque and Kreider and possibly some of the younger players who are draft-eligible. I just hope they play Kreider and Bourque.
If you have a report for us on Bourque and Kreider, please post it in the Rangers Prospects Thread. People love hearing about it over there. As evidenced by the uproar when non-Rangers prospects were introduced to the discussion.

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should probably look in to him? or pherhaps wait and see how one norwegian midget gets on??

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If you have a report for us on Bourque and Kreider, please post it in the Rangers Prospects Thread. People love hearing about it over there. As evidenced by the uproar when non-Rangers prospects were introduced to the discussion.
Gotcha. Sorry. Got confused already.

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