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12-15-2010, 11:55 AM
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I thought the youngest you could draft was 16?
It was. I think it was the aging bug. I remember alot of these players, being 20 last season and now again turned 20. Theres to many players to list them all but it is definitely a bug.

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12-15-2010, 12:23 PM
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How is this not a bug? This guy is 20 and has been playing since season 4 which means its his 5th season. He started playing when he was 16? I know guys could be drafted at 17 at one point but nobody would ever be under 18 to start playing. def not 16, maybe even 15 years old like this guy.

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Holy crap. If that's not a bug, then sign me up for the next "fountain of youth" guy to come through. I'm glad he's in the other conference, at least. I would like to play against him as little as possible.

Looking forward to Nik's answer on this one...

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12-15-2010, 12:26 PM
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I don't know. I know that really young players could be drafted in S1-3.

He may have missed a year of aging. I'd PM Nik and hope for the best.
The youngest any of then started at was 16 years old in the draft pool which means by the time they are drafted and the following season starts that guy is 17. This guy was 16 years 0 months old his rookie season. I'm pretty sure after season 1 he fixed it so that the youngest player in the draft pool was 17 so that when he actually got drafted and started playing he was 18 years old.

It seems ridic that the guy won the league MVP while scoring a point per game in Russia 2.2 which is a very good league as an 18 year old.

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12-15-2010, 12:41 PM
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I sent it to him. Im interested to hear what he says and how he makes it sound like its ok and not another screwup by himself. Ill post his response for a laugh.

That guy is ridic. Im assuming he was one of the guys that went right away. The first guys to go were the best deals. there were so many amazing players that there really wasnt much competition so he got him at the first asking price i would think. Im sure that guy will demand 8+ next season which means he cant keep him in 4.2 since the wage max is under 7.5m.
any ideas how much roughly these FA's will cost me after this season.

http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=417279

http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=650056

riggin has been quality and hopefully i can afford to keep him for real next season

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12-15-2010, 12:50 PM
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any ideas how much roughly these FA's will cost me after this season.

http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=417279

http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=650056

riggin has been quality and hopefully i can afford to keep him for real next season
My similar players make about what they make right now. Maybe even less.

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12-15-2010, 12:57 PM
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12-15-2010, 01:03 PM
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any ideas how much roughly these FA's will cost me after this season.

http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=417279

http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=650056

riggin has been quality and hopefully i can afford to keep him for real next season
I would say Boivin stays around the same wage. Riggin will most likely go up a bit but not a ton. I'm assuming he's still gaining TI since his avg is a few below the TRV so by the end of the season he may be a 75-76 avg. I'll say he costs you around 4 million next season.

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My similar players make about what they make right now. Maybe even less.
Your also in 3.x and have better coaching skills to reduce salary. Also, the only player you have with a 74 avg which is the same as Riggin is making 6+ million. Avg is what forms most of the salary, not EPA.

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12-15-2010, 01:09 PM
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I would say Boivin stays around the same wage. Riggin will most likely go up a bit but not a ton. I'm assuming he's still gaining TI since his avg is a few below the TRV so by the end of the season he may be a 75-76 avg. I'll say he costs you around 4 million next season.
cheers mate.

i have plenty of cap space. was just worried in case riggin got a massive wage increase.

looks like our division is going to be a tough one

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12-15-2010, 01:20 PM
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cheers mate.

i have plenty of cap space. was just worried in case riggin got a massive wage increase.

looks like our division is going to be a tough one
It really depends on how good of a season he has. If he tears it up and wins any awards or gets a star he could make closer to 5 million but I would think he would stay around 4 next year which isn't bad.

Our division is pretty damn good. Should be a close one to the finish.

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It really depends on how good of a season he has. If he tears it up and wins any awards or gets a star he could make closer to 5 million but I would think he would stay around 4 next year which isn't bad.

Our division is pretty damn good. Should be a close one to the finish.
yeh doesnt help that there are a fair few human managers in our conference

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12-15-2010, 01:37 PM
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Your also in 3.x and have better coaching skills to reduce salary. Also, the only player you have with a 74 avg which is the same as Riggin is making 6+ million. Avg is what forms most of the salary, not EPA.
That is an FA salary.

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12-15-2010, 01:46 PM
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If you guys wanna find out what you'll have to pay your FA's next season, just paste this into the address bar and put the player number at the end.

http://trophyhockey.org/trade_negotiations.php?id=

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12-15-2010, 01:54 PM
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If you guys wanna find out what you'll have to pay your FA's next season, just paste this into the address bar and put the player number at the end.

http://trophyhockey.org/trade_negotiations.php?id=
Thanks, that's awesome.

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12-15-2010, 01:59 PM
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If you guys wanna find out what you'll have to pay your FA's next season, just paste this into the address bar and put the player number at the end.

http://trophyhockey.org/trade_negotiations.php?id=
Are you sure thats right? I decided to post some current non-FA players I have, and they all went up.

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12-15-2010, 02:08 PM
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Are you sure thats right? I decided to post some current non-FA players I have, and they all went up.
I am sure that it isn't perfect being that wage calculations during a trade are likely different than Season Update re-signings.

Right now, all of my starters would get paid 46.6M next season including Westfield who is at 7.9M.

My big FA acquisition at 6.2M only wants 4.2 which is nice.

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12-15-2010, 02:09 PM
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Are you sure thats right? I decided to post some current non-FA players I have, and they all went up.
Well, Nik really half-assed the trade page, so I know something is missing... I'm thinking it has something to do with either your league or country or coach skill not being factored into the players price... probably coach skills.

This would explain why Bolden wants 2.7 to come back when I traded him away at 2.2.

I'm expecting to clear that cap room with a trade today, and for him to come back at 2.7... then, once his wage is adjusted for coach skills, for it to drop to about 2.2. I can hope, at the least...

Also, Miler cost me 4.1 to bring in, but his actual wage is over 100k lower, at 3.97. Something is definitely ****ed with the calculations on that page.

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12-15-2010, 02:19 PM
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Well, Nik really half-assed the trade page, so I know something is missing... I'm thinking it has something to do with either your league or country or coach skill not being factored into the players price... probably coach skills.

This would explain why Bolden wants 2.7 to come back when I traded him away at 2.2.

I'm expecting to clear that cap room with a trade today, and for him to come back at 2.7... then, once his wage is adjusted for coach skills, for it to drop to about 2.2. I can hope, at the least...

Also, Miler cost me 4.1 to bring in, but his actual wage is over 100k lower, at 3.97. Something is definitely ****ed with the calculations on that page.
Nik is a racial epithet.

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thanks for the link Ltrain.

Apparently the 2 forward FAs I want to keep past this season only want small increases in salary, the one dman I want to keep wants to jump from 2.5 to almost 4.5M and my backup will want to go from 500K to 2M.

Looks like my backup and the dman are 1-year rentals... now I just need to decide between the dozen prospects I signed because I know they will all want raises, too.

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If you guys wanna find out what you'll have to pay your FA's next season, just paste this into the address bar and put the player number at the end.

http://trophyhockey.org/trade_negotiations.php?id=
Thats awsome, thanks. Judging by this, I overpaid one guy (2nd line center of course) by about $500k but got wicked good deals on my other 5 FA's.

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This guys salary is going to more than double next year which is a concern. I still can't believe I landed him for under $1 million. 76 EPA center winning 60% of draws and has 10 points playing on the 2nd line and 2nd PP.

http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=53429

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Sick, shoutout win.

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This guys salary is going to more than double next year which is a concern. I still can't believe I landed him for under $1 million. 76 EPA center winning 60% of draws and has 10 points playing on the 2nd line and 2nd PP.

http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=53429
Make room for him. If you don't, I'd love to have him at the $2.1m he would cost me if I don't promote.

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What do you guys think of this proposal, I was offered.

Give up
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=320680
For
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=88226

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What do you guys think of this proposal, I was offered.

Give up
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=320680
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http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=88226
For me, that's an easy yes.

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