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12-15-2010, 11:18 AM
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What Could Have Been?

Using only players who made the team, NHLers who would presumably have made the team and the injured Gormley, this is what the roster cold have looked like:

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Hall (EDM) - Duchene (COL) - Kane (ATL)
Schwartz - Skinner (CAR) - Kassian
Clifford (LA) - Schenn (LA) - O'Reilly (COL)
Foligno - Seguin (BOS) - Connolly
Johansen

Cowen - Olsen
de Haan - Ellis
Gormley (INJ) - Gudbranson
Barrie

Visentin
Roy

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It seems like that roster, had it played, would likely have been one of the best ever.

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12-15-2010, 11:32 AM
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You could do that and say the the same thing every year...

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IMHO if the NHL really wanted to promote hockey and get extra viewers to the game they should mandate the NHL release players for this tourney.
The USA is a hockey power and having them play for medals year after year should get interest throughout the U.S..
This is probably the 2rd biggest annual (Olympics every 4 yrs) hockey event in the world (Stanley Cup No.1 and sorry Europeans the WC doesn't register here in NA) and having more eyeballs on it could only help the NHL.

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I think it is unfortunate that more Canadian kids don't say they want to play for Team Canada. I know they have to be loyal to the people cutting their cheques, I know there is the threat of injury and I know it is nice to have Christmas off but...

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As much as I agree with you, I think there has been like 14 threads on this exact same topic in the last week. We can probably give it a rest.

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IMHO if the NHL really wanted to promote hockey and get extra viewers to the game they should mandate the NHL release players for this tourney.
The USA is a hockey power and having them play for medals year after year should get interest throughout the U.S..
This is probably the 2rd biggest annual (Olympics every 4 yrs) hockey event in the world (Stanley Cup No.1 and sorry Europeans the WC doesn't register here in NA) and having more eyeballs on it could only help the NHL.
That would not be promoting hockey, cause it would make Canada beat the good teams 10-0 and obliterate the rest. Thus making it more like womens hockey. I think it's actually good that they don't have their best players so someone else still stands a chance.

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This is probably the 2rd biggest annual (Olympics every 4 yrs) hockey event in the world (Stanley Cup No.1 and sorry Europeans the WC doesn't register here in NA) and having more eyeballs on it could only help the NHL.
no the world juniors is pretty minor... there's a reason that it's held in canada everyother year and in the states within driving distance of the canadian border very often too.

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IMHO if the NHL really wanted to promote hockey and get extra viewers to the game they should mandate the NHL release players for this tourney.
The USA is a hockey power and having them play for medals year after year should get interest throughout the U.S..
This is probably the 2rd biggest annual (Olympics every 4 yrs) hockey event in the world (Stanley Cup No.1 and sorry Europeans the WC doesn't register here in NA) and having more eyeballs on it could only help the NHL.
Hi WC,

But the US only loses about 1 player per year. One could argue that insisting NHL players play could hurt their chances to medal.

If Canada and Sweden had all their players this year the US would not be the favourite.

I do agree, however, the NHL should do more to promote this tournament in the US.

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That would not be promoting hockey, cause it would make Canada beat the good teams 10-0 and obliterate the rest. Thus making it more like womens hockey. I think it's actually good that they don't have their best players so someone else still stands a chance.
Agreed. Well said.

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IMHO if the NHL really wanted to promote hockey and get extra viewers to the game they should mandate the NHL release players for this tourney.
The USA is a hockey power and having them play for medals year after year should get interest throughout the U.S..
This is probably the 2rd biggest annual (Olympics every 4 yrs) hockey event in the world (Stanley Cup No.1 and sorry Europeans the WC doesn't register here in NA) and having more eyeballs on it could only help the NHL.
Outside of Canada few people know WJC exists. And Canada defeating someone 7-0 is not entertaining to anybody but Canadians which is not good promotion of sport.

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Outside of Canada few people know WJC exists. And Canada defeating someone 7-0 is not entertaining to anybody but Canadians which is not good promotion of sport.
Re : "And Canada defeating someone 7-0 is not entertaining to anybody but Canadians which is not good promotion of sport."

LOL!!! Sad but true. We do love it.

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IMHO if the NHL really wanted to promote hockey and get extra viewers to the game they should mandate the NHL release players for this tourney.
The USA is a hockey power and having them play for medals year after year should get interest throughout the U.S..
This is probably the 2rd biggest annual (Olympics every 4 yrs) hockey event in the world (Stanley Cup No.1 and sorry Europeans the WC doesn't register here in NA) and having more eyeballs on it could only help the NHL.

Why? NHL owners don't want to release their young assets to play in the World Juniors where they could get hurt, they'd rather have them playing in the NHL against men.

Besides, having extra NHL'ers would in no way significantly impact viewership, if that was the case, the 2005 World Juniors would have had the highest viewership, but ratings have since climbed in recent years (in Canada at least).

The tournament is fine the way it is, in fact it's my favorite hockey to watch because the passion of these young kids playing for their country is simply immeasurable. No need to change it, just watch, enjoy, and hope other countries eventually catch the fever like we have in Canada.

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IMHO if the NHL really wanted to promote hockey and get extra viewers to the game they should mandate the NHL release players for this tourney.
The USA is a hockey power and having them play for medals year after year should get interest throughout the U.S..
This is probably the 2rd biggest annual (Olympics every 4 yrs) hockey event in the world (Stanley Cup No.1 and sorry Europeans the WC doesn't register here in NA) and having more eyeballs on it could only help the NHL.
I disagree, few people outside of Canada (and HFBoards) care about the WJCs. The tournament isn't even mentioned on major sports news sites here in the US unless the US does extraordinarily well or poorly. As a matter of fact, releasing junior-age NHLers could even have the opposite effect on the tournament, because it would make Canada even more dominant in this tournament than they are already are, and nobody other than Canadians would have any interest in watching that.

If the NHL wants to continue to grow their fanbase, they should continue to send players to the Olympics, that would be way more effective.

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I disagree, few people outside of Canada (and HFBoards) care about the WJCs. The tournament isn't even mentioned on major sports news sites here in the US unless the US does extraordinarily well or poorly. As a matter of fact, releasing junior-age NHLers could even have the opposite effect on the tournament, because it would make Canada even more dominant in this tournament than they are already are, and nobody other than Canadians would have any interest in watching that.

If the NHL wants to continue to grow their fanbase, they should continue to send players to the Olympics, that would be way more effective.
Best post of the day. I could not have said it better myself.

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Since the USA is defending the gold, do you think there will be more interest from fans in the US this year?

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Since the USA is defending the gold, do you think there will be more interest from fans in the US this year?
Probably not. The last time we defended the gold, few people in the US outside of avid NHL fans noticed. I think the US has to sustain their success a little bit better than they have in the past for this tournament to gain fans here.

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