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12-14-2010, 08:19 PM
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Top 10 Forward-Defense-Goalie combo

Anyone could give it a shot? ( at least one season and they had to be strong that year , not just on reputation )

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12-14-2010, 08:29 PM
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2000-01 Avalanche

F Joe Sakic - Hart Trophy, 2nd in in goals, 5th in assists, 2nd in points. 1st in points in playoffs.

D Raymond Bourque - 1st team all star, 5th in GF, 26 minutes of ice time in 80 GP, 28:30 of ice time in playoffs.

G Patrick Roy - 40 win season, Conn Smythe in playoffs.

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12-14-2010, 08:31 PM
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Lafleur-Robinson-Dryden in 1977

There are other ones like Gretzky/Coffey/Fuhr and Espo/Orr/Cheevers but the 1977 Habs seem to be the one that is actually strongest at every position in one year.

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12-14-2010, 08:37 PM
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the best has to either be:

rocket/beliveau, harvey, plante

or

howe, kelly, sawchuk

and for multiple seasons each.

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Howe-Kelly-Sawchuk in 51-52.

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12-14-2010, 08:47 PM
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Quote:
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the best has to either be:

rocket/beliveau, harvey, plante

or

howe, kelly, sawchuk

and for multiple seasons each.
55-56 : Beliveau - Harvey - Plante

Beliveau winning the Hart and the Art Ross (and finishing 3rd in PIMs...) and leading the league in playoffs scoring with 19 points (and 12 goals...) in 10 games, Harvey winning the Norris, Plante winning the Vezina and the 1st...

That's probably it. Vezina had better seasons, but Beliveau was just a head over everyone that year.

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12-15-2010, 05:31 AM
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Howe - Kelly - Sawchuk

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Beliveau - Harvey - Plante

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12-15-2010, 06:39 AM
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Yzerman/Lidstrom/Hasek is probably in the top 10, though Yzerman and Hasek were both slightly passed their peak.

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12-15-2010, 07:30 AM
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Yzerman/Lidstrom/Hasek is probably in the top 10, though Yzerman and Hasek were both slightly passed their peak.
Actually from 95 onward you can get some very good combos.

Fedorov - Coffey - Vernon
Yzerman - Lidström - Vernon

and even though they were passed their peak yours is a great one too.

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12-15-2010, 07:56 AM
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Yzerman/Lidstrom/Hasek is probably in the top 10, though Yzerman and Hasek were both slightly passed their peak.
Take Fedorov instead of Yzerman, he was better that year.

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12-15-2010, 08:10 AM
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These come to mind...

1982 Stanley Cup champion Islanders: Bryan Trottier - Denis Potvin - Billy Smith
1981 Canada Cup champion Soviets: Sergei Makarov - Slava Fetisov - Vlad Tretiak

1927 Stanley Cup champion Senators: Frank Nighbor - King Clancy - Alex Connell
1926 Stanley Cup champion Maroons: Nels Stewart - Babe Seibert - Clint Benedict

1916 Stanley Chup champion Canadiens: Newsy Lalonde - Bert Corbeau - Georges Vezina
1915 Stanely Cup champion Millionaires: Cyclone Taylor - Sil Griffis - Hugh Lehman

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You can't top Plante/Harvey/Beliveau.

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1991-1992 NY Rangers?

Messier-Hart Trophy
Leetch-1st team all star, last defenseman with 100 points.
Vanbiesbrouck-weak link of the trio, split time with richter but did have great stats that year.

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12-15-2010, 11:08 AM
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1963-1964 Hawks

Forward
Either Bobby Hull or Stan Mikita (both 1st Team All-Stars, Mikita led the league in points, Hull led in goals)

Defenseman
Pierre Pilote (Norris and 1st Team All Star)

Goalie
Glenn Hall (1st Team All Star)

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12-16-2010, 11:32 AM
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I'll give a case for the 1985-1986 Oilers:

Gretzky
1985-86 Edmonton Oilers NHL 80 52 163 215
Hart, Art Ross, 1st Team All-Star (leading F voting)
Most points and assists ever scored in a single season

Coffey
1985-86 Edmonton Oilers NHL 79 48 90 138
Norris, 4th in Hart, 1st Team All-Star (leading D voting)
2nd most points, most goals ever scored in a single season by a Defenceman

Fuhr

1985-86 Edmonton Oilers NHL 40 3.93 29-8-0 0.890
3rd in Vezina voting and All-star G voting


If only they won the cup that year! Stupid Steve Smith. One of the cruelest thefts from the hockey Gods in history.

Either way, legendary all-time seasons at F and D, and a very good showing by Fuhr (who was sharing the load evenly with Moog) being 3rd best G must put this trio in the top 10 of all time.

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12-16-2010, 01:59 PM
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Here is every team since 48-49 that had players with Hart votes in either 2 or 3 of forward, defense, and goaltending. Bolds are reserved for the times that they got votes in all three positions, or when they have 2 positions in the top 5.


49
MTL G2 F8

50
NYR G1 F6
TOR F2 G7

51
DET F3 D3
BOS F1 D7

52
DET F1 G4
BOS G3 F4

53
DET F1 D3

54
DET D2 F4

55
TOR F1 G2
MON F3 D5

56
MON F1 D5
DET D4 F7
NYR G3 F8

57
MON F2 D5

58
Mon D3 F4
NYR D6 F7

59
DET F2 G4

60
CHI F2 G3

61
TOR G2 F4

62
NYR D2 F5
CHI F3 G6
TOR G7 D8

63
DET F1 G3
CHI F2 G4

64
MON F1 G4
CHI F2 G6
DET F3 G7
TOR G7 D10

65
DET F2 G4

66
CHI F1 G4

67
CHI F1 G10
NYR G2 D5 F7

68
NONE

69
BOS F1 D3

70
BOS D1 F6
CHI G2 F4

71
BOS D1 F2
TOR F4 G5
CHI F3 G8

72
BOS D1 F3
NYR F4 D9
CHI G6 F7

73
BOS F2 D3
MON G4 F9
CHI F7 G9

74
BOS F1 D3
PHI G2 F4
CHI G5 F6

75
PHI F1 G4

76
MON F3 G4
NYR/BOS D5 F6

77
MON F1 D5
LA G3 F6

78
MTL F1 G11 D11
NYI F2 D7

79
NYI F1 D4
MTL F2 D6 G19
TOR G5 D8 F13

80
MTL F4 D7

81
NYI F4 D9
MTL D6 F14
QBC G7 F11

82
CHI D9 F11

83
PHI D5 F6

84
EDM F1 D10
CAL G8 F12
BOS F4 D5
QBC F11 G12

85
EDM F1 D15
PHI G3 F10
WSH D4 F13

86
EDM F1 D4
PHI D3 F9

87
PHI D8 G9
HAR G3 F9

88
EDM G2 F3

89
MTL G4 D6

90
NONE

91
CHI G3 F5
CAL F6 D8

92
NONE

93
NONE

94
BOS D6 F9
NYR F8 G10
SJS G14 D14

95
NONE

96
DET F5 D20 G22

97
COL G8 F11
NYR F15 D16 G19
ANA F2 G19

98
NJD G4 F20
DAL F13 G15
PIT F2 G16
WSH F6 G11
DET D13 F19
BOS F9 G12

99
STL D10 F12
OTT F2 G14
TOR G4 F16

00
DET F8 D9
CAL G6 F17
WSH G4 F13
DAL F10 G15
NJD G12 F17

01
COL F1 D23
OTT F14 G23
EDM F7 G16
CAR G28 F28
DET D10 F19
NJD G5 F6 D15
PHI G4 F23

02
COL G3 F7

03
DET D8 F9
DAL F7 G11
COL F1 G12
TOR G15 F18

04
CAL F2 G4
NJD G3 D9 F15
TOR G10 F12
OTT F17 D25
BOS G13 F14
SJS F21 G23

06
DET D7 F21
ANA D8 F14
NYR F2 G9
NJD F12 F13
NAS G16 F26
DAL G18 F19
OTT F5 D19

07
DET D6 G22
ANA D7 F9
BUF F11 G20

08
DET D4 F9
SJS F6 G7
CGY F3 D12
PIT F2 D17

09
CBJ G4 F14
BOS G7 D8 F26
WSH F1 D13
SJ F9 G16 D24
DET F3 D17
CAR G18 F23
CGY F12 G20

10
NJ G8 F13
COL G9 F23
WSH F2 D14
BOS D15 G17
CHI F7 D16
LA D17 F17
DET D17 F23
NYR F17 G23
SJS F10 G23

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12-16-2010, 02:41 PM
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The 9 teams that had all three positions getting Hart votes were:

'67 Rangers
2. Giacomin G
5. Howell D
7. Gilbert F

'78 Canadiens
1. Lafleur F
11. Ken Dryden G
11. Larry Robinson D

'79 Leafs
5. Palmateer G
8. Salming D
13. Sittler F

'96 Red Wings
5. Fedorov F
20. Konstantinov D
22. Osgood G

'97 Rangers
15. Gretzky F
16. Leetch D
19. Richter G

'01 Devils
5. Brodeur G
6. Elias F
15. Stevens D

'04 Devils
3. Brodeur G
9. Niedermayer D
15. Elias F

'09 Bruins
7. Thomas G
8. Chara D
26. Savard F

'09 Sharks
9. Thornton F
16. Nabokov G
24. Boyle D

Important to note is that after 1995 Hart voters voted for a top 5, so the number of players getting votes almost doubled. In the original 6 days, it seemed to be easier to get two players in the top 5, but there were rarely more than 10 players getting votes in a year, whereas now there can be over 25! This seemed to make it harder to get 3 players voted for in each position.

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12-16-2010, 02:45 PM
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From the Montreal AAA winged wheelers, hockey's first dynasty, and the winner of the first Stanley cup championship in 1893:

FORWARD: Haviland Routh, the runaway leader in scoring in the AHAC that season.
DEFENSE: Allan Cameron, captain, 5 retro-Norris', arguably best defender of his era
GOALIE: Tom Paton, 5 times led league in wins, three retro-Vezina's

All three easily top-10 for the decade.

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12-16-2010, 03:06 PM
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Ones that come to mind immediately (I'm obviously forgetting some obvious ones, this isn't a comprehensive list):

Gretzky-Coffey-Fuhr
Hull/Mikita-Pilote-Hall
Beliveau-Harvey-Plante
Howe-Kelly-Sawchuk
Trottier-Potvin-Smith
Sakic-Bourque-Roy
Yzerman-Lidstrom-Hasek
Lafleur-Robinson-Dryden


A couple homer picks (not close to the top ten, maybe top 20 or 30?):
Ratelle-Park-Giacomin
Messier-Leetch-Richter

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