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12-17-2010, 12:17 AM
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Less chirping has made Kesler a better player

http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/story/?id=34...me=nhl-canucks
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"Last year I think I hurt the team and hurt myself when I was running my mouth a lot," Kesler said after the Canucks practice Thursday.

"I think I've matured as a human being over the past couple of months. It's just helped me on the ice. When you play whistle to whistle it's a lot easier to play the game."

"They wanted me to become a better leader, a better player every year," said Kesler. "The biggest reason I changed was I was hurting my team. My play wasn't where it needed to be.

"You grow out of that stuff. I came into this league being a defensive specialist that got under the other guy's skin. For me to continue playing I just grew out of it and I am just focusing on my game."
It's good to see the organization wasn't afraid to directly address the biggest weakness in Kesler's game with him and major credit goes to him for being a mature adult and taking the constructive criticism. A lot of guys would have rebelled against management but Kesler didn't.

Kesler being able to bring his A game without having to rely on cheap tricks and yapping to fire himself up will help him in the post-season.

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I love Henrik and he might wear the "C", but Kesler IS the "C".

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im also wondering if Henrik being named captain made Kesler realize that class and respect is extremely important

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Not until Kesler brings this same maturity and intensity when it matters the most.

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He needs some new goal celebrations.

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He needs some new goal celebrations.
I don't care about that stuff.

I'm usually too excited to be paying attention to what someone's going to celly like when they score. 'Cept for Wellwood.

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I still wish Kesler got the C

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im also wondering if Henrik being named captain made Kesler realize that class and respect is extremely important
I was thinking this today too - I think the tone of the team is much better this year and they are on the road to mental toughness. I think Kesler NOT getting the C was the best thing that could have happened to him.

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Relevant article from last month: Canucks take new Zen-like approach to dealing with referees

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now if only Luongo would stop flopping all over the place.

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The best thing about our lineup is that if they focus defence on the Sedins, then Kesler is going to burn them. If they focus on Kesler, then the Sedins will burn them. If they manage to shut down both top lines, we've still got the edge in the circle and can bruise them and bully out a low scoring game win

This is gonna be a really good year for us!

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now if only Luongo would stop flopping all over the place.
I've noticed he has a bit less this year.

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I've noticed he has a bit less this year.
People think whenever he gets knocked over that he's flopping like it's impossible to believe that getting bumped when you're focused on something else can result in you losing your balance.

Luongo does embellish stuff but it's become so overstated on here just like Burrows & Kesler diving. They play hard and take a lot of legitimate abuse that often gets dismissed as them embellishing or diving.

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People think whenever he gets knocked over that he's flopping like it's impossible to believe that getting bumped when you're focused on something else can result in you losing your balance.

Luongo does embellish stuff but it's become so overstated on here just like Burrows & Kesler diving. They play hard and take a lot of legitimate abuse that often gets dismissed as them embellishing or diving.
Except when he is flopping. And he still does it a lot, tries to get the call, refs ignore him, and boom, the other team scores.

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How many goals do you think we give up directly because Luongo "flops"?

Just curious.

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good on kesler. That's showing leadership, playing hard, in your face game. scoring timely goals. takes off pressure off the first line if they get shut down by the oppostion.

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How many goals do you think we give up directly because Luongo "flops"?

Just curious.
My guess is between one and zero per year.

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How many goals do you think we give up directly because Luongo "flops"?

Just curious.
probably 5 or so.

One happened just a couple of games ago.

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People think whenever he gets knocked over that he's flopping like it's impossible to believe that getting bumped when you're focused on something else can result in you losing your balance.

Luongo does embellish stuff but it's become so overstated on here just like Burrows & Kesler diving. They play hard and take a lot of legitimate abuse that often gets dismissed as them embellishing or diving.
He's gotten better lately, but he can be a big time flopperr. Especially last year, there were times where he was more worried about faking interference then stopping the puck. I agree he gets legitimately interfered with more than some other goalies, but honestly, I think a lot of that is because teams around the league know if they bug him enough he'll start flopping and faking and staring at the refs, possibly letting in a goal in the process.

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probably 5 or so.

One happened just a couple of games ago.
Interesting claim. I'd like to hear your example from a couple of games ago.

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Also, I think Luongo embellishes about as often as most goaltenders in the league do. I think the issue was the over-aggressive style Ian Clarke preached: Luongo was often "interfered with" when the player was outside the blue paint. That's rarely called, because it isn't really interference.

This year he's stayed inside his crease for the most part and seems to be getting more calls -- and, more importantly, seems to be staying in the play.

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The best thing about our lineup is that if they focus defence on the Sedins, then Kesler is going to burn them. If they focus on Kesler, then the Sedins will burn them. If they manage to shut down both top lines, we've still got the edge in the circle and can bruise them and bully out a low scoring game win

This is gonna be a really good year for us!


Difference is, Kesler is alone in carrying his line. I expect more from of the Sedins. Yes, often going against the top D pair puts you at a disadvantage. Clearly, some D pairs are excellent. Still, the Sedins should produce more than Kesler and his line all things being equal.


I like that the players are pushed to evolve here. The Sedins were questioned. In comes the offensive schemes Gillis favours, and the leadership he has placed the Sedins in (contracts+letters), and now they have reached a new level. I'm not sure they get there in a defense first scheme. The same with Kesler: Put him in a more offensive role, and force him to stop chirping, and you see what he has become. Meanwhile, Luongo is trying to adapt a new style at 30+ yrs of age.


Just good encouragement and push from GM to Coach to Player.

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Difference is, Kesler is alone in carrying his line. I expect more from of the Sedins. Yes, often going against the top D pair puts you at a disadvantage. Clearly, some D pairs are excellent. Still, the Sedins should produce more than Kesler and his line all things being equal.
But...they do...

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probably 5 or so.

One happened just a couple of games ago.
I have seen a huge difference in the way Luongo handles contact recently - the shutout against Chicago was the turning point to me, whenever he was bumped he would just put his head down and skate towards the corner. Maybe its a byproduct of not being the captain and trying to engage the refs - whatever it is it makes him a more likable goalie at the very least and more effective I'm sure.

In years past I'd agree with you on it costing goals, but recently I just haven't seen it. Granted I only see about 90% of the goals for and against so maybe I missed the one you're talking about.

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Kesler being able to bring his A game without having to rely on cheap tricks and yapping to fire himself up will help him in the post-season.
What I like is that a lot of the league already hates Kesler, so that if he scores, now it just pisses players/fans the same as if he were yapping.

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