Actually its 6 points back. The guys in 9,10,11,12 all have games in hand. Its not as rosy as it looks. Calgary will need to win at a winning percentage equivalent to the best teams in the nhl if they are to make the playoffs.
I don't know about anyone else but Brent Sutter is simply making bad coaching decisions this game. What message is he trying to send by playing the 4th line like its our first when were down. They were out there on the 3rd Minnesota goal cause they couldn't clear the zone, now they get extra ice time? What did Backlund and Kotalik do to get benched. Its a big game and your expecting the 4th line to tie it up, get your head out of your A$$ sutter!
Jesus Christ what a frustrating game to be at. The Flames played well and had possession for the majority of the second. Then bam, down 2 goals. The Flames who simply cannot make basic passes showed up tonight.
I had MASSIVE frustration during the last 8 minutes of the third. The jumbotron had a video on perseverance and resilency and saying we won't give up. The fans who are still there (not a lot at this point, even after 3-1) and we all go ****ing nuts, trying to wake the guys up. Huge energy in the building, and videos with Flames saying we won't give up.
Then they pan the bench and the general look is disinterest or like they'd already given up. So frustrating.
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Originally Posted by FLAMES666
I don't know about anyone else but Brent Sutter is simply making bad coaching decisions this game. What message is he trying to send by playing the 4th line like its our first when were down. They were out there on the 3rd Minnesota goal cause they couldn't clear the zone, now they get extra ice time? What did Backlund and Kotalik do to get benched. Its a big game and your expecting the 4th line to tie it up, get your head out of your A$$ sutter!
I tried to get a "Fire the Sutters" chant going, but it was too late and nobody cared anymore. Backlund and Kotalik looked a hell of a lot better than our first line tonight. Iggy had some chances, but oh my ****ing christ I wanted to kill Tanguay. He refused to shoot tonight. Stajan, despite the goal was ****ing terrible. Just brutal. I'm so furious that Sutter signed him for the money and term he did.
I'm still livid. The only guys that showed up to play were Gio, Sarich, Bouwmeester, and Jackman. Kostopolus was up and down all night. Pardy was a turnover machine in our zone. Morrison was floating all night. I was actually pleased with Jokinen from about the halfway point on. Before that not so much. The cycle still dies on his stick more often than not. Sigh. Kipper was okay, but not stellar by any stretch. Bourque had a few decent shifts, but then had bad ones the following one. The shots on net stat was deceiving, we may have had an edge but so many of our shots were ****. I swear to god I think Backlund was the only forward who really came back defensively consistently tonight and had a good scoring chance and then he got benched. I ****ing hate the Sutters at this point. Get rid of all of them.
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All I want for Christmas is a top 2 draft pick. That is what this team so desperately needs more than anything. We need a franchise guy who can come in to replace Iginla after he leaves. Right now Backlund is the only ready prospect we have, and he most likely will not be able to fill those shoes.
What were you expecting? It's not like this game was particularly different from the average game the Flames have played this year. These players don't care and it will cost their careers in the long run.
What message is he trying to send by playing the 4th line like its our first when were down.
The message that every other line needed to work as hard as our best line in this game, which was the 4th line. It's called rewarding those players who show up. Good on Sutter.
The message that every other line needed to work as hard as our best line in this game, which was the 4th line. It's called rewarding those players who show up. Good on Sutter.
Ya but when you continue to play them after they fail to clear the zone which led to the third goal, that just shows you don't care about winning.
Ya but when you continue to play them after they fail to clear the zone which led to the third goal, that just shows you don't care about winning.
No, it doesn't. Players are going to make mistakes, regardless of what line they're on. But for this particular game, our 4th line was our best line (which goes to show you why we lost) and deserved the ice time they got.
No, it doesn't. Players are going to make mistakes, regardless of what line they're on. But for this particular game, our 4th line was our best line (which goes to show you why we lost) and deserved the ice time they got.
They weren't our best line that is the thing. Jokinens line was probably the best and Iggy and Tanguay were playing fine. Its bad coaching when you your putting your 4th line out down 3 goals in the 3rd. I don't care how well they played earlier in the game you put out the players who give you a better chance of winning and Kostopolous, Jackman and Moss are the last guys I would put out their.
They weren't our best line that is the thing. Jokinens line was probably the best and Iggy and Tanguay were playing fine. Its bad coaching when you your putting your 4th line out down 3 goals in the 3rd. I don't care how well they played earlier in the game you put out the players who give you a better chance of winning and Kostopolous, Jackman and Moss are the last guys I would put out their.
Sutter has been this teams coach for a year and half now, and obviously he knows better than anyone that there is a fundamental problem with this team. I am in agreement with Sutter's coaching decision to reward more minutes to the 4th line. To me this says that he is not concerned with being short sighted to win "a" game, and that he is more concerned with the big picture in trying to motivate "key" players on the Flames, hence the recent benchings of certain players on the team.
I think alot of his moves he has done as of late have been done out of desparation in trying to get guys going. Like sending out 5 defenceman on the PP, benching key individuals, cutting peoples ice time, and calling out players in the media. What he is trying to accomplish is getting rid of the "country club" atmosphere that this team has, and trying to re-establish an identity of a team that out works their opposition for a full 60 minutes.
Not to say he is trying to throw a game to send a message, but he is taking drastic measures at this point to change the culture and identity of this team which should transpire in a more consistent play for the Flames down the stretch if all goes according to plan.
Sutter has been this teams coach for a year and half now, and obviously he knows better than anyone that there is a fundamental problem with this team. I am in agreement with Sutter's coaching decision to reward more minutes to the 4th line. To me this says that he is not concerned with being short sighted to win "a" game, and that he is more concerned with the big picture in trying to motivate "key" players on the Flames, hence the recent benchings of certain players on the team.
I think alot of his moves he has done as of late have been done out of desparation in trying to get guys going. Like sending out 5 defenceman on the PP, benching key individuals, cutting peoples ice time, and calling out players in the media. What he is trying to accomplish is getting rid of the "country club" atmosphere that this team has, and trying to re-establish an identity of a team that out works their opposition for a full 60 minutes.
Not to say he is trying to throw a game to send a message, but he is taking drastic measures at this point to change the culture and identity of this team which should transpire in a more consistent play for the Flames down the stretch if all goes according to plan.
As much as that coach has been frustrating I agree with these moves. It exposes the dirty little secrets. One might be Glenner is not the team guy we all thought... egos seem overly bloated for a team that is losing
