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12-23-2010, 08:51 AM
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horrible deal.
yeah, I wanted Scott signed in the off-season but this is a horrible deal.

Another PK specialist for the 4th line would take a lot of the load of of Richards/Giroux.

Betts/Powe
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12-23-2010, 08:52 AM
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We do not need centers, we do not need 4th line players. That’s for damn sure. We do not really need faceoffs or toughness.

1. Goaltender.
2. Big forward, even a power forward(we probably cannot afford that) basically someone that is good in front of the net on PP and somewhat good at it. Sniper with size would also work. #2 is a luxury not a priority.

We do not need Nolan's, Satan's etc etc etc.. Are you kidding me? Who in the right mind would suggest that?


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12-23-2010, 08:55 AM
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I think Vokoun has to be traded by the Panthers. They lose him the summer as a UFA regardless. I assume he will either be a Capital, Lightning or Flyer come March. I don't think Chicago can work a 5 million goalie into their lineup. Noboby else is going to be looking for goalie help that are making a run at it this year:

Of the top 20 teams in the NHL only Phily, Tampa, Washington and Chicago could be looking for help in net. The goalies available could be Vokoun, Giguire, Nabokov, Brodeur, Roloson.

I don't think the teams will be overpaying for goalies this year. There is limited competition and in Phillys case, they will not be over a barrel. I think they will be "OK" with going with Bob/Boucher/Leighton. With the extra money just sitting on this roster, it sets them up nice for a deadline deal.

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12-23-2010, 09:00 AM
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I would like to see how Leighton does now that Bob has appeared to leveled off. At the very least give him a chance to showcase himself. I would like to see them add a goalie like Roloson that wouldn't require them to make any major changes. As it's been stated the Flyers need a goalie that is technically sound and can handle the first shot so the D can clean up the rebounds. Boucher has been great lately but he goes into those stretches where he overcommits and has bad positioning. Bob is still an unknown, and is Leighton the guy from the MTL series or the Hawks series?

I would like to see the line up tweaked a little with some size. A 3rd or 4th liner that can wear down some d men on the forecheck especially in a long series. Also, a guy that could move up a line or two when needed without being out of place. Basically, a guy that brings what Carcillo and Powe do but bigger.

Guys like Winchester, Eager or Crombeen...6'2"-6'3" around 220-225lbs.

Eager-Betts-Powe
Eager or Crombeen? Freaking junk.

Flyers have Carcillo. Carcillo is a better player for damn sure.

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12-23-2010, 09:03 AM
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yeah, I wanted Scott signed in the off-season but this is a horrible deal.

Another PK specialist for the 4th line would take a lot of the load of of Richards/Giroux.

Betts/Powe
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someone mentioned Sjostrom, that would be a nice pickup as would reasoner. carcillo plus a pick should be able to get a deal for either one. I mentioned wayne primeau for the 4th line. Guess there is a reason why he isnt playing for someone i guess. Zigomanis wouldnt be bad either.

They do need to upgrade over bartulis and i think they will. Wonder if mckee or even witt have anything to offer as your 7th dman? wouldnt cost anything. sign to a 25 game tryout with the phantoms then make a decision. If those guys want back in the nhl that bad, that is the route they need to go.

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We do not need centers, we do not need 4th line players. Thatís for damn sure. We do not really need faceoffs or toughness.

1. Goaltender.
2. Big forward, even a power forward(we probably cannot afford that) basically someone that is good in front of the net on PP and somewhat good at it. Sniper with size would also work. #2 is a luxury not a priority.

We do not need Nolan's, Satan's etc etc etc.. Are you kidding me? Who in the right mind would suggest that?
what is wrong with nolan? he played well last year and on this team would be a nice addition, assuming he is playing well in europe.

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12-23-2010, 09:11 AM
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what is wrong with nolan? he played well last year and on this team would be a nice addition, assuming he is playing well in europe.
He is done. He wants $ I've read it somewhere. A lot of players playing on Europe. So what? Game is different there.

Also, he would have to clear waivers. I think. Right? I rather look at players that played here all season long.

Honestly, I rather go after Langenbrunner. Yes, Devil but he brings it in playoffs. If he is available. Hell yes.

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12-23-2010, 09:13 AM
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He is done. He wants $ I've read it somewhere. A lot of players playing on Europe. So what? Game is different there.

Also, he would have to clear waivers. I think. Right?
well based on his play last year he certainly isnt done. doesnt matter if the game is different, you can tell if someone is done or if they have anything to offer regardless where they are playing. yep he would have to clear waiver i believe.

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12-23-2010, 09:18 AM
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well based on his play last year he certainly isnt done. doesnt matter if the game is different, you can tell if someone is done or if they have anything to offer regardless where they are playing. yep he would have to clear waiver i believe.
Nolan was good in 20 something games last year. Dude could not buy a goal.

He was done in Toronto, how long ago was that? Do we need more penalty minutes on this club is another story. Do we? Hell no.

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12-23-2010, 09:29 AM
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He is done. He wants $ I've read it somewhere. A lot of players playing on Europe. So what? Game is different there.

Also, he would have to clear waivers. I think. Right? I rather look at players that played here all season long.

Honestly, I rather go after Langenbrunner. Yes, Devil but he brings it in playoffs. If he is available. Hell yes.
Langenbrunner? Hell Yes! Love that.

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I don't think we need a sniper. We have plenty of guys willing to pick corners. I think we could use a solid dirty-goal scorer like Knuble. I had hoped Hartnell would be that man, but he's a different kind of player.

Think we're pretty set on defense. I'm not super confident in Bartulis, but as long as he's a 7, he should be serviceable. As long as we're not sending out a Parent, Krajicek, Bartulis bottom 3, we should be much better than last year.

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12-23-2010, 09:31 AM
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I have Owen Nolan on my Flyer team for the XBOX and he is AWESOME. I haven't played the game in a while. I think it is NHL99. Has anything changed since then?

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How about John Madden? Minnesota is not looking great for the playoffs and at 1.25 he might be a good add.

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12-23-2010, 09:56 AM
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How about John Madden? Minnesota is not looking great for the playoffs and at 1.25 he might be a good add.
Powe - Madden - Betts would be devastating defensively.

At least it would've last year. Anyone know if he's been playing well?

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I have Owen Nolan on my Flyer team for the XBOX and he is AWESOME. I haven't played the game in a while. I think it is NHL99. Has anything changed since then?
hahahaha, probably one or two things

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Madden would be a great pick-up, depending on what Minnesota wants for him.

I'm with Kaktus, though, on goaltending as the #1 probable need at the deadline. Holmgren should stuff his "Who the heck knows?" and "It is what it is" word balloons in a box and start playing "If ... Then". If Bob hits a wall, then he should have a few names lined up and conversations started with other GMs. Find out ahead of time what the price tags would be for players like Roloson, Vokoun, Bryzgalov, etc., and stay in touch as teams wax and wane. Be an informed consumer, rather than making desperation moves. Be creative, too, about talking a deal with a bottom-feeder for Nabokov: eg, Toronto picks him up and flips him to the Flyers for a 2nd and Boucher.

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At this point, if no one gets injured and as long as things keep clicking, I wouldn't really be actively looking for a trade, unless Shelley were getting benched (or traded/waived). Obviously a team can always get better, but I'm not sure I'd risk trading a player form this team when they are clicking like this. If they made a trade for a real player (i.e. not Shelley) and Shelley continued to play, that would be an awful move.

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At this point, if no one gets injured and as long as things keep clicking, I wouldn't really be actively looking for a trade, unless Shelley were getting benched (or traded/waived). Obviously a team can always get better, but I'm not sure I'd risk trading a player form this team when they are clicking like this. If they made a trade for a real player (i.e. not Shelley) and Shelley continued to play, that would be an awful move.
You're absolutely right, DFF, but a very good GM is one who can start setting up the scenarios in case of injuries and also can pick out specific areas where the team needs to improve. How to improve the PP, for example. Holmgren addressed the 3rd-pairing D deficiency in the SC finals, and the forwards to date are generally in good shape. My biggest fear is that Bob is still a rookie who could regress over time or on a dime (didn't mean for this Dr. Seuss sentence structure!), and then this team all of a sudden has a G tandem that was just good enough to lose in the finals last year, not to mention the added spectre of back problems for Leighton.

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I cannot stand Madden! As well as Gionta and Gomez with that ***** Elias. After playing Selke type D all these years against Flyers in mid 90th and 2000 I would hate him on my team.. By the way Madden also did it to us last year.

I wish Richards took his head off in one of the rare games against Wild. I strongly dislike Madden.

I do not know how I can tolerate Langenbrunner but I do.


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Eager or Crombeen? Freaking junk.

Flyers have Carcillo. Carcillo is a better player for damn sure.
I like Carcillo but I think there is a difference between 6' 195 and 6'3" 225lbs especially over a long series. The Flyers were fortunate to play two series against smaller less physical teams in the playoffs (NJ, MTL).

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I like Carcillo but I think there is a difference between 6' 195 and 6'3" 225lbs especially over a long series. The Flyers were fortunate to play two series against smaller less physical teams in the playoffs (NJ, MTL).
4th line is not the problem. Extra 3 inches and 20lbs won't help us win the cup.

Eager freaking sucked in playoffs with exception of one goal. The only goal that he scored last year in playoffs.


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I cannot stand Madden! As well as Gionta and Gomez with that ***** Elias. After playing Selke type D all these years against Flyers in mid 90th and 2000 I would hate him on my team.. By the way Madden also did it to us last year.

I wish Richards took his head off in one of the rare games against Wild. I strongly dislike Madden.

I do not know how I can tolerate Langenbrunner but I do.
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
vanRiemsdyk - Carter - Zherdev
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Betts - Madden - Langenbrunner

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Madden!! <~~~~~

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I'd love Langenbrunner or Madden on this team as much as anyone, but I don't see the reasonable assets to get a deal done. It would shock me if they can't get something along the lines of a second and a middling player. Last year, Torres got a second and Paetsch, and Belanger went for a second.

Also, thanks for the Glencross info, Mercury. I hadn't read that.

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Wasn't Langenbrunner having issues in NJ? IIRC, he wasn't happy after last post season and the issues they had over the summer and at the start of this season added to his woes. If the Devils don't pull their annual "We look like we suck but SURPRISE, we win the division!" act, I could see them dealing Langs for relatively cheap.

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