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12-24-2010, 01:29 AM
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When you win in shootouts.. Shootouts are exciting and good for the game.

When you lose.. "That is no way to ever lose a hockey game."

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12-24-2010, 01:31 AM
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Not going to complain about the win, but I wish we'd see a killer instinct out of this team that we saw from them in Detroit and Colorado. I guess the team sometimes plays down to the level of the opponents. For a team expected to contend for a division championship, the Kings eventually have to decisively win games against non-playoff teams.

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When you win in shootouts.. Shootouts are exciting and good for the game.

When you lose.. "That is no way to ever lose a hockey game."
how bout shootouts are exciting and are no way to ever win or lose a game...

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12-24-2010, 01:33 AM
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how bout shootouts are exciting and are no way to ever win or lose a game...
I can agree with that. But shootouts are a part of the game now and I enjoy them for what they are.

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Kings looked gassed, but it was great to get the 2 points. The Oilers are loaded with young game breakers, it's ****ing scary where they'll be in 3-4 years.

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Hope the fourth line stays the same against the quacks.

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12-24-2010, 01:46 AM
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Hope the fourth line stays the same against the quacks.
Like I said earlier, Lewis didn't play well, I think Westy's in vs the ****s

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12-24-2010, 01:47 AM
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Hope the fourth line stays the same against the quacks.
no chance Murray keeps Westgarth out...

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12-24-2010, 01:49 AM
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we got lucky on the Stoll's goal on the shootout.

2 points!

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12-24-2010, 01:52 AM
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Have to also mention, Penner looked impressive for the Oilers, creating chances and showing some good puck control in tight spaces. Could the Kings give Smyth his swan song and return him to the city in which he belongs?

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12-24-2010, 01:54 AM
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no chance Murray keeps Westgarth out...
I know. It was just nice playing all 4 lines.

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12-24-2010, 02:01 AM
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Not going to complain about the win, but I wish we'd see a killer instinct out of this team that we saw from them in Detroit and Colorado. I guess the team sometimes plays down to the level of the opponents. For a team expected to contend for a division championship, the Kings eventually have to decisively win games against non-playoff teams.
I completely agree with you. I just wanted to say that I think the lack of a killer instinct against weaker teams is symptomatic of a young team. There are no easy wins in the NHL. It's hard to accept. Hell, there are no easy wins in my beer league and I still go into some games thinking I can coast ... and I'm 30.

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12-24-2010, 02:11 AM
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Not going to complain about the win, but I wish we'd see a killer instinct out of this team that we saw from them in Detroit and Colorado. I guess the team sometimes plays down to the level of the opponents. For a team expected to contend for a division championship, the Kings eventually have to decisively win games against non-playoff teams.
4th game in 6 nights which included travel from Nashville to Chicago to Colorado to LA. 3-1 in that period. A night like tonight happens in circumstances like this.

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12-24-2010, 02:13 AM
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4th game in 6 nights which included travel from Nashville to Chicago to Colorado to LA. 3-1 in that period. A night like tonight happens in circumstances like this.
We shall see, every team goes through those types of stretches. We've also seen the Kings play sluggishly after extended breaks.

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12-24-2010, 02:26 AM
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Kings win with a sloppy effort tonight. Kings were very scrambly in their own zone tonight.

I don't mind Edmonton getting the loser point. Kings finally gain a point on Dallas.
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Stole those points.
I was literally getting sick to my stomach watching the Keystone Kings out there doing the best impersonation of a chineese fire drill with the ATROCIOUS passing and puck control the whole night. How many more passes can Cap'n Canada fumble away before we find a way to make him Cap'n Cand? We were not good on the puck even into the third. JQ may have given Hall a weak goal, but our 2nd was pretty similar. Besides, on Hall's goal Doughty over-commited in front of the blue line and gave him the opening to the outside.

Although some on this board are happy for the 2pts, as am I, watching this team play like they did in Colorado and like they did tonight just a few nights later is mind boggling. But I will give the Oil credit as I will to their coach. We were well scouted as the points had pressure on them the whole night, and Edmonton's team speed gave them the ability to pressure the puck, causing us to make poor passes and be rushed, causing puck loss. They will get better and Tom Renney appears to have rounded a corner with the team. Overall, a frustrating game which we barely won as the Stoll puck dribbled across the goal line. With as far as Dubnyk comes out, the deke to the 5-hole is the move to make. Than goodness I was not the only one to notice that.

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I honestly don't think the Kings played that badly. The Oilers just had no business winning tonight
Funny, I thought they out hustled us the whole night and were the more physical team

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... Edmonton played a great game tonight, but the Kings still played well enough to beat them. If not for the soft goal allowed to Hall, the Kings had a regulation win. Quick did well in the shootout to redeem himself, though.

Ponikarovsky and Brown were tremendous on the forecheck, opening up space for their linemates when they did.

The Kings directed 66 shots at the Oiler net tonight, while the Oilers directed just 50 at the Kings' net - gives a bit of an idea who was controlling the play, and where. The big difference was that Edmonton had 22 blocked shots, an outstanding total.

The effort was certainly not lacking for the Kings, they just went up against an aggressive and better-skating (though erratic) opponent, who gave them a tough game.
By the same token, if not for the soft Stoll S.O. goal, we might not have won at all. We were outskated and outplayed. WE could not establish control in our zone but for a few short bursts, our passing was piss poor and the speed and pressure they placed on our players, particularly at the points gives a good blueprint to other more skilled teams on how to play us.

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Kings deserved this win. We are a much more dynamic team than the Oilers. However our team passing was garbage all night and against better opponents that wouldn't fly.

**** Peckham. First time I wanted to see Westgarth all season was after his third cheap shot on Williams in as many shifts. What a burly *******. He brutalizes us and was the oilers defense.
The passing, and how we handled (or didnt) their pressure is the reason I thought we didnt to deserve to win. I thought this was a game the S.O. stole for us.

Re: Peckham. He is a beast, and this was a game Westy could have given us more than Lewis did, hindsight being what it is.

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Not going to complain about the win, but I wish we'd see a killer instinct out of this team that we saw from them in Detroit and Colorado. I guess the team sometimes plays down to the level of the opponents. For a team expected to contend for a division championship, the Kings eventually have to decisively win games against non-playoff teams.
I alluded to this in the pre-game posts. Looked liek to entirely different teams playing between this game and last. I havent seen the interviews but I would bet that candidly TM wasnt happy with the execution.

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I completely agree with you. I just wanted to say that I think the lack of a killer instinct against weaker teams is symptomatic of a young team. There are no easy wins in the NHL. It's hard to accept. Hell, there are no easy wins in my beer league and I still go into some games thinking I can coast ... and I'm 30.
Could be as to the Kings. But we were playing a young team too.

There is not coasting in the over-40 league I play in. Not with the likes of Blake, Harpo, Kompon, Barhona and other former high-level players playing, and I'm significantly over 30!


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12-24-2010, 02:42 AM
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You guys have a good, well rounded team with lots of character players. You need some elite talent up front though. Without that, it will be very hard for you to make it past teams like Detroit and Vancouver, nevermind Philly or Pittsburgh.

Do you guys think Schenn would be available at all for something that could help you now? Or is he completely off the table?

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You guys have a good, well rounded team with lots of character players. You need some elite talent up front though. Without that, it will be very hard for you to make it past teams like Detroit and Vancouver, nevermind Philly or Pittsburgh.

Do you guys think Schenn would be available at all for something that could help you now? Or is he completely off the table?
The team didn't look too good today until that third period but they just came back from a five game road trip where they won 5-0 over Colorado (highest scoring team that hadn't been blanked out all season), 5-0 over Detroit, and snapped Nashville's six game win streak. They did that while missing Mitchy (who has been a rock) and Greener. This team can score by committee when everybody is healthy and get the job done.

I do think that they need another gamebreaking winger or another 1B center to really flesh it all out. Maybe a Semin or Richards if we are lucky.... (and if you guys take Smyth off our hands in the offseason.....)

Schenn isn't going to make this roster until next season. He doesn't have a spot right now and if we don't re-sign Zues, then he can be the third line center next season.

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You guys have a good, well rounded team with lots of character players. You need some elite talent up front though. Without that, it will be very hard for you to make it past teams like Detroit and Vancouver, nevermind Philly or Pittsburgh.

Do you guys think Schenn would be available at all for something that could help you now? Or is he completely off the table?
Scbenn is off the table, I would like to see what Sturm can do first with that first line, and if he is serviceable then we need a legit centre to shore up that second line and move Stoll to the third line.

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Schenn would only be up for an elite 70+ point left winger at the deadline. That's the only kind of trade that could probably involve him.

Lombardi pretty much has Kopitar/Schenn/Loktionov as our three top centers for the next ten years.

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Decent win, the Oilers are a fun team to watch.

What the hell was with that too many men penalty? Yeah, the guy coming off was a little more than 5 feet from the bench, but they were no where near the play and had absolutely no effect on anything. That didn't need to be called.

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4th game in 6 nights which included travel from Nashville to Chicago to Colorado to LA. 3-1 in that period. A night like tonight happens in circumstances like this.

Yep. And the first home game after a road trip.

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Decent win, the Oilers are a fun team to watch.

What the hell was with that too many men penalty? Yeah, the guy coming off was a little more than 5 feet from the bench, but they were no where near the play and had absolutely no effect on anything. That didn't need to be called.
Yeah, that was nuts. The play was at the Oilers' blueline, the guy coming off was at the Kings' blueline, and the guy coming on was on the other side of the redline. Needed binoculars to see that.

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I knew the Kings would win after seeing "the look"....



The head-bobbing was just a bonus.

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I can agree with that. But shootouts are a part of the game now and I enjoy them for what they are.
Shootouts would be easier to accept if the point system was more in line with what a shootout win actually means (i.e., it shouldn't mean the same as winning a game in regulation). 3 points win, 2 points shootout win 1 point shootout loss and 0 points for a real loss. Problems solved.

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