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Is there any way we win the Stanley Cup during Gomez , Gionta & Cammalleri's era?

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12-29-2010, 11:08 AM
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Gomez and Gionta won a cup without Cammalleri.
They also won a cup without a salary cap. Different world now.

I really don't think we can, but I guess anythings possible. I would bet money against it.

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12-29-2010, 11:12 AM
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After watching them the past few games, which is during one of their slumps, we can see how poorly they can play. When they're on their game, they're really exciting to watch, but Stanley Cup winning teams aren't this bad when they're in a slump

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12-29-2010, 11:17 AM
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I think we will do it under the Cammalleri Gionta and ? Era.

Replace the ? by the player were going to get with Gomez money.

In this Era we'll have Leblanc, Subban, Eller, Tinordi, Price and Weber with more exp.

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12-29-2010, 11:17 AM
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I still think the team needs a point per game player that can carry them through the dark stretches. Not sure how we've avoided having one in the last dozen years or so.

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12-29-2010, 11:21 AM
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yes we can

Lebanese for the win! We need lebanese in the team to win Kadri?

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12-29-2010, 11:23 AM
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No, the team is not good enough and won't be with this core.

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12-29-2010, 11:39 AM
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oh my, this is a gem, a true hf classic in the making.

Those kids are blessed to have such a creative genius of a music instructor!

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12-29-2010, 11:47 AM
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Let's see, we made to conference finals last season. It sure as hell wasn't a fluke. We did get beat up really bad. This season we have a great start. Now we've lost 7 out our last 9 games and got bumped down to 8th. Keep in mind that this season, most teams have been within just a few points of each other for most of hte season, range going from 10th to 1st.

And you're questionning if we don't have a serious chance, just because we've had a slip (assuming that's the reason, because I hardly see anyone asking this question atm had we won 7 out of 9 instead)?

Relax, we've hit a tough spot on the calendar, every team does. We know we have talented players. We usually play bad this part of the season. We'll pick it up. Yes we do have a good chance. (only thing I dislike is our head coach, but I won't get into that)

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12-29-2010, 11:55 AM
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If we do, my guess is that two of three likely won't be major contributors.

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12-29-2010, 11:56 AM
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Sure we can win with those 3 they are not the problem.

in two years this team will be contenders if the young players step up and if we have the right group of defensemen

We are in the right way but not there yet.

Cammalleri
Plekanec
Gionta
Gomez
Markov
Gorges
Price

are all key element

Subban
Eller
Paciorrety

3 young guys with alot potential, they could all be good nhl players in 2 years

Kostitsyn
Pouliot
The Wiz
Weber

can all help the team long term but in AK and Pouliot case I will wait until the season is over to see if they are in the team plan

Leblanc
Tinordi
White
Avtsin

young players who can steal a place in the roster on the long run.

We have a good core , just be patient

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12-29-2010, 12:12 PM
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Anything is possible, but right now i'd say no we cannot win with that core of 3.

Between the 3 of them, they are probably overpaid by approx. 5-6 million dollars. While no team is going to fully optimize their cap space, that is still alot of "wasted" money on 3 guys.

I believe that with a better mix we can be a very competitive team, but i just cannot see us being THE team with those guys. Not unless guys like Eller and Subban become all-stars under their rookie deals.

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12-29-2010, 12:14 PM
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oh my, this is a gem, a true hf classic in the making.

Those kids are blessed to have such a creative genius of a music instructor!
Awesome!

The music instructor looks like Mario Tremblay.

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Anything is possible, but right now i'd say no we cannot win with that core of 3.

Between the 3 of them, they are probably overpaid by approx. 5-6 million dollars. While no team is going to fully optimize their cap space, that is still alot of "wasted" money on 3 guys.

I believe that with a better mix we can be a very competitive team, but i just cannot see us being THE team with those guys. Not unless guys like Eller and Subban become all-stars under their rookie deals.
cap space will go up every year, Gainey saw that coming and that's the only reason why I think Burke is not a moron.

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12-29-2010, 12:25 PM
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Absolutely but we need a strong puck moving d-corp to help the transition and a good support cast to help them out when they're slumping and to do the dirty stuff

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12-29-2010, 12:27 PM
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So yeah, you dont see it cause you focus on those 3 guys... but hey, albeit their salary, they're still only 3/20 you know...
Maybe , but if the last 2 years is any indication of how the team will manage them , they will always have the most ice time and PP time because of their salary and no matter how bad they are they will continue to play on the top lines.

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12-29-2010, 12:29 PM
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After watching them the past few games, which is during one of their slumps, we can see how poorly they can play. When they're on their game, they're really exciting to watch, but Stanley Cup winning teams aren't this bad when they're in a slump
woah , it's always fun to see our team win but let's not go there.

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12-29-2010, 12:30 PM
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I think we will do it under the Cammalleri Gionta and ? Era.

Replace the ? by the player were going to get with Gomez money.

In this Era we'll have Leblanc, Subban, Eller, Tinordi, Price and Weber with more exp.
With the execption of Price and to a much lesser degree Suban - Leblanc, Eller, Tinordi, and Weber have, practically speaking proven ZERO at the NHL level!

And you will depend on these unproven core of players who may or may not even make it at the NHL level - to help you win the Cup(?)...............dream on!



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12-29-2010, 12:32 PM
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Maybe , but if the last 2 years is any indication of how the team will manage them , they will always have the most ice time and PP time because of their salary and no matter how bad they are they will continue to play on the top lines.
You mean like when Plekanec and his meagre $3 million salary took over the #1 centre spot last year from Gomez? If other players outplay the "Big 3" then great, those guys move down the depth chart.

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12-29-2010, 12:34 PM
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And you're questionning if we don't have a serious chance, just because we've had a slip (assuming that's the reason, because I hardly see anyone asking this question atm had we won 7 out of 9 instead)?
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I've been against the Cammalleri & Gionta signing since day one ( same with the Gomez trade ) I just happens to be kind of new to this forum ( was reading before )
I'm not a bipolar fan at all , I just don't like the core of the team at all.I'm glad we have Carey Price and was glad we had Markov , but the rest of the core is the ultimate example of a team staying near the middle of the pack endlessly , drafting at a position where you normally pick players that keep you in the middle of the pack endlessly , with a coach that give us nothing to entertain us while being in the middle of the pack ( endlessly )

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12-29-2010, 12:34 PM
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Yeah, if Price gets hot at the right time.

He's also the one who hold the keys to the playoffs. If he's not a top 10 goalie at the end of the year i doubt the Habs make the playoffs.

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After watching them the past few games, which is during one of their slumps, we can see how poorly they can play. When they're on their game, they're really exciting to watch, but Stanley Cup winning teams aren't this bad when they're in a slump
When they're on their game (which is rare since they can't play a full 60 minutes of good hockey) they edge out teams.

If you want to go the small route, that's fine...but you have to be speedy and skilled with FINISH. We have a bunch of guys who are the same. Good players but not highly skilled besides maybe Cam and AndreiK. Andrei has no finish...Cam does but he's struggling now. Gomez is pass first guy and is good for 10 goals. He has no finish. Gionta, another small, good player, but he's not highly skilled.

We have a lot of good complimentary players, but no one go-to guy. Then we have a coach who knows nothing about offense and has our offensive guys playing a defensive system that simply doesn't work with the guys we have.

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Yeah, if Price gets hot at the right time.

He's also the one who hold the keys to the playoffs. If he's not a top 5 goalie at the end of the year i doubt the Habs make the playoffs.
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You mean like when Plekanec and his meagre $3 million salary took over the #1 centre spot last year from Gomez? If other players outplay the "Big 3" then great, those guys move down the depth chart.
Don't get me wrong , I truly hope you're right.But Plekanec was already high on the depth chart.

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think you should become an Isles fan

You think that I should become an Islander's fan?

Dude.........why didn't you tell me that - I would have changed teams long ago - at your very suggestion.....LOL considering your knowledge of hockey!

Don't need to become an Isles fan - Habs organization is already close to the Islanders in terms of team/organizational management!

Habs are a lot closer to the Isles than they are near the top NHL teams.


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Habs are a lot closer to the Isles than they are near the top NHL teams.

In fact , they are right in the middle of it.And nobody knows in which direction they're going ( probably status quo )

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