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12-29-2010, 12:28 PM
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Atleast he'd be getting adequate playing time.
I was under the impression that Kreider is getting plenty of minutes, at BC on the first or 2nd line No? Including PP and PK minutes also.

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12-29-2010, 01:38 PM
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Kreider can learn to be deadly after setting up because of his wicked shot. However, it's always good to have guys who can rush the puck down the ice and snipe, which I hope he does.

We won't see any of it this WJC probably until he gets moved off of Palmieri's line, though.

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12-29-2010, 04:00 PM
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He has played a strong two-way game. On the PP he is winning puck battles, moving the puck to the point or open teammate and then planting himself in front of the net. This is obviously what the coaches want him to do. He made a great play on the first goal; a subtle chip pass off the boards which set up the whole play. He is a bigger, faster Brandon Dubinsky right now. But he does still appear raw when he doesn't have the puck in the O-zone. In the D-zone he is very good and scary actually because if he intercepts a pass to the point or the D-man loses control it's over; he's gone.

If he is coached properly and developed I believe he will be a 65 - 70 point guy at a minimum. He's not going to put up big numbers in this tournament because of the role he's playing but not to worry. Don't judge him on that this time around. Great to see Fasth score a big goal yesterday and Horak was very calm with the puck (although there was no room) and he plays with an edge. All good so far.

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12-29-2010, 06:53 PM
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He has played a strong two-way game. On the PP he is winning puck battles, moving the puck to the point or open teammate and then planting himself in front of the net. This is obviously what the coaches want him to do. He made a great play on the first goal; a subtle chip pass off the boards which set up the whole play. He is a bigger, faster Brandon Dubinsky right now. But he does still appear raw when he doesn't have the puck in the O-zone. In the D-zone he is very good and scary actually because if he intercepts a pass to the point or the D-man loses control it's over; he's gone.

If he is coached properly and developed I believe he will be a 65 - 70 point guy at a minimum. He's not going to put up big numbers in this tournament because of the role he's playing but not to worry. Don't judge him on that this time around. Great to see Fasth score a big goal yesterday and Horak was very calm with the puck (although there was no room) and he plays with an edge. All good so far.
Well you do have to judge him on it at least somewhat however it also has to be tempered judgement. He's 19 I think right? Coming to THIS team it's better to be defensively responsible first otherwise you can't get the ice time. Responsible with the puck comes second, offense comes third. A lot of players on the team right now don't have a lot of offensive potential but are living up to their limit or near it because they are doing the first two things and getting the TOI. if CK lives up to HIS offensive potential or near it (Which could take 2-3 years in the pros just like Dubs, boyle, Cally, half the entire league over the course of its history) it could be an 80-90 point guy.

It has me drooling that I think he's a safe bet to develop into at least a perennial 60 guy which you can't draft always. But just like the judging should be tempered so too are my expectations. I expect it but I wouldn't expect others to. Besides stats though other facts seen and presented by SM and others include good passing, hitting, control along the boards, putting himself wide open when not with the puc(but his teammates aren't figgin passing). You could inference this means he's getting much better but without making an opinion or inference those are solid facts from this tourny. I'm not sure where this litany of "clueless without the puck" or looks "confused" is coming from those are opinions that I'm not sure are backed up by what we're seeing. He's not a top 5 prospect in the world he definitely doesn't have the IQ for that or I'm sure he'd be burying more but top 5 guys are future elite guarantees. We all know he's no guarantee and he's got to develop. He keeps putting himself wide open which seems pretty knowledgable to me...

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12-29-2010, 10:17 PM
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Thomas picked up an assist tonight

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Werek is still not skating with Kingston (or at least didn't play tonight)... Anyone know what's up?

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Kreider can learn to be deadly after setting up because of his wicked shot. However, it's always good to have guys who can rush the puck down the ice and snipe, which I hope he does.

We won't see any of it this WJC probably until he gets moved off of Palmieri's line, though.
That´s damn right. Chris is the only one who can send a pass to the tape! I hope the coach finally realize this fact and mix the lines up a bit.

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12-30-2010, 07:42 PM
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Not sure if anyone saw Fasth's goals today. One was really garbage, a flubbed shot led to a second opportunity in the slot and the goalie played it horribly. The second was off of a set play on the PP. Absolutely perfectly executed. Faceoff win. Fasth crashed the net from the point, perfect pass fed across the crease to him and he roofed it into an empty net. Great play.

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12-30-2010, 09:46 PM
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Ethan Werek still has a bum wrist. He was expected back yesterday but obviously wasn't in the lineup. The Rangers just sent him a wrist brace to wear. He'll be out through this weekend, hopefully back next weekend.

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Ethan Werek still has a bum wrist. He was expected back yesterday but obviously wasn't in the lineup. The Rangers just sent him a wrist brace to wear. He'll be out through this weekend, hopefully back next weekend.
Thanks for the update... I hope he can stay healthy for the remainder of the season and have a strong finish to his year....

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Ethan Werek still has a bum wrist. He was expected back yesterday but obviously wasn't in the lineup. The Rangers just sent him a wrist brace to wear. He'll be out through this weekend, hopefully back next weekend.
Merry Christmas, Ethan.

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12-30-2010, 10:22 PM
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Merry Christmas, Ethan.
Happy Hannukah, actually.

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Happy Hannukah, actually.
Guess we should send him 7 more wrist braces.

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Also, McNaught is now officially done for the season.

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Updated the stats in the first post. Last one before late Sunday or late Monday.

Also tweaked the way I cover injuries. Now there are red #'s next to injured players, with the injuries themselves listed in a separate injury report after the stats tables.

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Updated the stats in the first post. Last one before late Sunday or late Monday.

Also tweaked the way I cover injuries. Now there are red #'s next to injured players, with the injuries themselves listed in a separate injury report after the stats tables.

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Also, McNaught is now officially done for the season.
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so does McNaught have any future with us? It would be nice to have a cheap alternative if (more like when to me) we send Boogaard down to clear his cap hit.

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so does McNaught have any future with us? It would be nice to have a cheap alternative if (more like when to me) we send Boogaard down to clear his cap hit.
His Junior career is over, and he was only Rangers property for 8 games. Now he has had a serious injury that will probably impact his already crappy skating.

I can see him getting a minor league deal and starting down in the ECHL. There's no way that he gets an ELC from the Rangers though.

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Yeah, I was excited for him too. No way he gets anything now.

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Yeah, I was excited for him too. No way he gets anything now.
The odds are stacked heavily against McNaught but if he wants it, he better get ready to work his derriere off and start from the bottom level. If the desire is there, who knows what he can turn into.

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Hagelin with 3 assists Thursday night.

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Updated the stats in the first post. Last one before late Sunday or late Monday.

Also tweaked the way I cover injuries. Now there are red #'s next to injured players, with the injuries themselves listed in a separate injury report after the stats tables.
Look at all those ugly red # in the first table, yuk!

Also, It's good to see Fasth is quietly having a great start to the WJC. Especially since people were penciling in Kreider as the defacto best prospect NYR has in the tournament. He still is overall, obviously, but it will be interesting to see if he is the best they have in this WJC in terms of production by the end.

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anyone think Jason Wilson gets a contract or is he another wasted overage pick

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Fasth just got absolutely blown up by Foligno.

This CAN-SWE game has been really great so far. The teams look pretty evenly matched, but the Canadians are much more physical and I can see the Swedes wearing down as the game progresses.

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