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#38 - 12.29.2010 | New York Rangers @ New Jersey Devils | 7:00 PM - MSG (HD)

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12-29-2010, 11:49 PM
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We did the same thing last season, but with a better record.



A goalie's job is to keep his team in the game; Give his team a chance to win. He's gone above and beyond since day 1. He's an absolute superstar worthy of his nickname. As valuable as almost any player in the league. When he has an off-night, Ranger fans should look in the mirrow and ask themselves how capable they are at their much, much, much easier profession.

Team battled tonight though. Rough 1st period, but they came to play. I think the Devils would have outplayed almost any team tonight after what they just went through. Not too concerned about that. Not taking anything way from Hank, but I think the Win was deserving.
This. I dislike seeing "Hank stole us a win" with negative undertones, because that's exactly what and elite goalie can and should do.

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12-29-2010, 11:52 PM
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NJ gets to decide which of its next 4 first round picks it will forfeit. What a stupid penalty imo. If the punishment was a 1st rounder it should have been this years (2011.) The NHL is just dumb. Anyway, looks like the Devils won't be giving up this one. lol
yea that is really stupid. makes absolutely no sense. this is the year they should have been penalized.

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12-30-2010, 12:18 AM
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I thought the Rangers played well tonight. Don't know why all of you think otherwise.

After getting outplayed in the first,... and give the Devils credit, they came out flying,... The Rangers got into it, created some offense and really clamped the door shut in the 3rd. They started slow, but finished really strong. Not sure what the stats are but we play really well in the 2nd half of games,... and last night was no exception. Strong finishes are our strength, our trademark. The 3rd period is our period. This is where games are won and we own the 3rd periods. And last nite was a classic example of how to shut down a team in the 3rd. We didn't allow the Debbies to enter the neutral zone, much less our zone for much of the period.

The Rangers are showing what it takes to be a good team even when they are not scoring 7 goals a game. To a man, they played great defensively as the game progressed and shut the door late in the game.

There were maybe 3 or 4 breakdowns on D the whole night. The goal, the breakaway, the 2 on 1 broken up by Sauer, and what else....

Yes,.. Hank was on his game but he got help in the 3rd as the team infront only allowed 8 SOG.

This was a classic Rangers win.

Most noticeable players tonight,... Boyle, Arty, Prust, Dubi, Sauer, Eminger, Staal, Rosy, Girardi, Step, Gabby, Avery. Am I missing anyone? Oh yeah,.... Drury was very noticeable going to the box with less than 4 minutes left.

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12-30-2010, 12:21 AM
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This. I dislike seeing "Hank stole us a win" with negative undertones, because that's exactly what and elite goalie can and should do.
how are there negative overtones when its the truth? i mean should i say it all happy like? lol

we didnt play AWFUL, but we were outplayed for the vast majority of this game. Henrik stole us 2 points. The better team, tonight, didn't win. Lets also not forget that the Devils somehow missed 3 wide open nets (Arnott twice, Tedenby once)


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12-30-2010, 12:24 AM
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Crazy stat update: NYR are 8-10-1 when outshooting or even in shots with opponent and are 14-4-1 when being outshot by opponent

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12-30-2010, 12:25 AM
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how are there negative overtones when its the truth? i mean should i say it all happy like? lol

we didnt play AWFUL, but we were outplayed for the vast majority of this game. Henrik stole us 2 points. The better team, tonight, didn't win.
They were better for the first and some of the second. We outplayed them in the third.

And IDK, it just sounds bitter to me when people say "Hank stole us a win!"

I'm happy everytime Hank steals a win. It shows he's elite.

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12-30-2010, 12:30 AM
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Crazy stat update: NYR are 8-10-1 when outshooting or even in shots with opponent and are 14-4-1 when being outshot by opponent
Its like pass attempts in football. More shots mean we are trying to come back. Less shots mean we are protecting a lead. I dunno, its a theory.

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12-30-2010, 12:38 AM
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Its like pass attempts in football. More shots mean we are trying to come back. Less shots mean we are protecting a lead. I dunno, its a theory.
That's true to an extent.

For example, let's say you have a 5 on 3 power play with 60 seconds to go and a 1 goal lead.

If I were the coach I would tell them not to shoot, just cycle the puck and kill the clock. Shooting has a chance of resulting in a rebound that can result in a breakaway. Cycling the puck in a 5 on 3 situation makes it virtually impossible for the other team to even touch the puck.

Of course this happens to a lesser extent in less extreme situations. Just look at our 4 minute PP today. We had 2 d-men on it, why? because we're protecting a 1 goal lead. If we were down by 1 goal there's a good chance we have 5 forwards on the PP. Might as well gamble to tie it since losing by 2 is the same result as losing by 1.

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12-30-2010, 12:46 AM
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Its like pass attempts in football. More shots mean we are trying to come back. Less shots mean we are protecting a lead. I dunno, its a theory.
You want a revelant stat, one that really means something.

Rangers Record Leading After 1st Period... 10-1

Rangers Record Leading After 2nd Period... 16-0

Rangers are a shut down machine.


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12-30-2010, 01:01 AM
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I was hoping they would ice it during that long power play. After the game it occurred to me that even though they did not put it away on the PP...

....they still won. Ugly but still a win. I'll take it.

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12-30-2010, 01:05 AM
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You want a revelant stat, one that really means something.

Rangers Record Leading After 1st Period... 10-1

Rangers Record Leading After 2nd Period... 16-0

Rangers are a shut down machine.
And they have the best win % when trailing after 2.

Comeback kids!

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12-30-2010, 01:17 AM
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Good game guys. Hank was impressive as usual against us.

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12-30-2010, 02:56 AM
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Boyle with a fantastic night.

Henrik came away with a King's ransom, seriously he stole the show.

Surprised Volchenkov never called for a penalty on Dubi, he clearly hit him before the the puck was there, lesser has been called this season in the NHL on a similar play.

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12-30-2010, 04:08 AM
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I'd like to point out that the devils are 0.28 and so are the NJ nets

the nets playing in that building really dragged them down

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12-30-2010, 06:15 AM
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Rangers did not deserve 2 points tonight. Henrik stole us a win.
Wrong...the Debbies outplayed the Rangers in the 1st, and the Rangers were the better team in the 3rd. The Debbies weren't the better team for the full 60 minutes. The PK was also excellent. Was it the Rangers best performance? No, but, it's the sign of a good team when you can win without your best team performance.

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Michael Sauer was once again very good. It's not just the superb play he made on the 2-on-1. He doesn't get outmuscled for the puck, even against a strong player like Zubrus. He wins puck battles. He will be the 2nd pairing D-man next year, hopefully partnering with MDZ, allowing MDZ to have a safety net.

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Michael Sauer was once again very good. It's not just the superb play he made on the 2-on-1. He doesn't get outmuscled for the puck, even against a strong player like Zubrus. He wins puck battles. He will be the 2nd pairing D-man next year, hopefully partnering with MDZ, allowing MDZ to have a safety net.
Leading the team in +/- at +12.

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Leading the team in +/- at +12.
Leading all rookies as well.

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You want a revelant stat, one that really means something.

Rangers Record Leading After 1st Period... 10-1

Rangers Record Leading After 2nd Period... 16-0

Rangers are a shut down machine.


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Leading the team in +/- at +12.

It is so rewarding watching the young players develop into quality contributors. Boyle is really doing work.

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how are there negative overtones when its the truth? i mean should i say it all happy like? lol

we didnt play AWFUL, but we were outplayed for the vast majority of this game. Henrik stole us 2 points. The better team, tonight, didn't win. Lets also not forget that the Devils somehow missed 3 wide open nets (Arnott twice, Tedenby once)
I can't follow the logic that excellent goaltending is a negative if it's not coupled with a letter-perfect evening for the skaters. Isn't the team's best player supposed to carry the team to victory on some nights?

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Michael Sauer was once again very good. It's not just the superb play he made on the 2-on-1. He doesn't get outmuscled for the puck, even against a strong player like Zubrus. He wins puck battles. He will be the 2nd pairing D-man next year, hopefully partnering with MDZ, allowing MDZ to have a safety net.
I'm really glad Sauer finally got healthy enough and got a shot...I really liked him as a prospect for awhile but it just seemed like he'd never get his shot with his injury troubles. Definitely having a nice rookie season

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Was it really an easy win? We looked to be on the ropes for much of the game. And our goals were pretty flukey.
Let me re-phrase it, that was an easy 2 points. Even with the Devils playing their best game of the year and us having at best a mediocre night, we walk away with the win. That's how low the Devils have sunk.

I really hope this was just a holiday hangover and we come out much more physical and aggressive next game.

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I'm really glad Sauer finally got healthy enough and got a shot...I really liked him as a prospect for awhile but it just seemed like he'd never get his shot with his injury troubles. Definitely having a nice rookie season
Agreed...I've been a big Sauer fan since he was drafted. But, when he didn't even get a shot in camp of 2009, I thought his days in this organization might be over. You watch him, and you see the same defensive awareness that Staal has, but, with more of a physical edge and mean streak.

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