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06-18-2005, 04:32 PM
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All I can say, is good luck with him. He's like Jeckle and Hyde that guy. Also, if he's not getting PP time, dont expect him to score much.

You don't know a thing about Hab fans, do you murhp! We expect him to score a hat trick in his first game, and then 10 more hat tricks throughout the season!

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You don't know a thing about Hab fans, do you murhp! We expect him to score a hat trick in his first game, and then 10 more hat tricks throughout the season!
Oh trust me, I know you guys...and I know most dont get um...stiff members...from watching fish ****..

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Oh trust me, I know you guys...and I know most dont get um...stiff members...from watching fish ****..
stiff members?

Ive never seen any members around me go stiff when i watch my fish........

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I like him for many of the reasons already mentioned. I also like him for the playoffs. He matured on a lousy team that has become a powerhouse, and he has gotten good playoff experience from losing. Knowing how to lose is sometimes more important than knowing how to win.

He's played tough series against the conference's best teams: Flyers, Leafs, Devils. He's played 30 playoff games in the past two NHL seasons, averaging a a goal every three games. This could be the beginning of a career trend. Bonk has played 10 NHL seasons and he's not even thirty.

The past few Habs playoffs have seen superhuman efforts from Koivu, Zednik, and periodically Theodore. I see Bonk's experience as an asset. It just makes the team more solid for the playoffs, especially in the later rounds against the elite Eastern conference teams.

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I like the Bonk acquistion for a number of reasons probly all already mentioned. He brings size up the middle, somthing to fall back on if Ribeiro or Koivu gets injured because he is certainly capable of playing in the top 6. I'd like to see him play on the 3rd line though with Bulis and either Sundstrom, Higgins or possibly Perezhogin. Either way it'd be a good combination of defencive aware guys and players who can also produce offencivly. It'll definetly be the best 3rd line we've had in a while and maybe one of the best in league if Bulis can bring over to the NHL what he did in Europe last season. I'd expect Bonk to put up about 40-45 points and his linemates somewhere close to that. Theres not alot of stars on this squad but it's very solid all the way through, 3 lines capable of scoring and a fesity, sparkplug filled 4th line and as we've seen in the past teams such as this can do quite well if there is good chemistry.

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06-20-2005, 06:32 PM
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a good 2-way centers
thats what he bring

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06-21-2005, 12:59 PM
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Maybe the fact he will not be the number one or second center will take pressure off of him.

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I think he will put up about 45 points if he plays on the 3rd line with Bulis and someone else possibly Higgins.
I am so looking forward to see Bulis play with Bonk especially with the numbers Bulis produced in Europe. Bulis is a defensive specialist with good offensive potential, him and Bonk will form a good duo I think. We should definetly try out Higgins with these 2 guys, start him on the 3rd line to play defensively wich he can already do and untap his offensive with Bonk.

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He brings safety. Had we had him at the beginning of last season he would have been very useful as a #1 center while Koivu was injured.
No thanks, Ribeiro exploded when he got first line center duties last year. Who knows what would of happened if Koivu wouldn't of been injured.

Anyways, a very good grab by the Habs imo. A VERY good 3rd line center who can play top 6 when needed, can also play on every special units. A very versatile player in other words.

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My sentiment exactly... For some reason I think Hossa will wake up on the third line and start being a very effective player. At this point I would not care if Hossa does not produce a whole lot as long as he can become an effective third liner. Once he achieve this I am pretty sure that points would come....

Bulis, Bonk, Hossa would be fun to watch!
I dont know but i think Perezhogin as better chance of getting the 3th line spot. IMHO. unless he is able to get 2nd line time.. wich is possible.

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06-21-2005, 07:49 PM
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I like Bonk's ability along the boards. He's very strong there. Hossa is also good on the boards. I wouldn't mind seeing Bulis-Bonk-Hossa as a checking line, assuming Hossa can handle the defensive side (which I think he can). They could put up decent points too.

Leave Higgins in Hamilton on the top line and bring him up later I say.

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06-21-2005, 08:08 PM
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I dont know but i think Perezhogin as better chance of getting the 3th line spot. IMHO. unless he is able to get 2nd line time.. wich is possible.
Agreed if there where only one spot avialble I would think that Perezhogin would have more chances of getting that position. However I think he has more chances of getting 1st or 2nd line duty then Hossa does. Also keep in mind that we can not send Hossa down unless we put him on waiver.

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06-21-2005, 08:20 PM
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I like Bonk's ability along the boards. He's very strong there. Hossa is also good on the boards. I wouldn't mind seeing Bulis-Bonk-Hossa as a checking line, assuming Hossa can handle the defensive side (which I think he can). They could put up decent points too.

Leave Higgins in Hamilton on the top line and bring him up later I say.
Why should we leave Higgins in Hamilton, IMO if he deserves a spot in training camp he should get it. If he does'nt then its a different story. Perezhogin and Higgins are will both be 22 in September (Just 1 year younger then Ryder was at the biguinning of last season). In my opinion they have just as many assets as Ryder does and both should be in pretty good posistion to challange for a spot. I am not worried about having too many kids in the lineup, I am much more worried about leaving a guy like Higgins in the minors if he has nothing else to learn there.

In my opinion we may have to leave with a rookie on each line next season... Perezhogin on the first line with Koivu and Zednik, Higgins on the second with Ribeiro and Ryder, Hossa on the third with Bonk and Bulis as for the fourth line I am still puzzled, I think we need an energy guy to complement Begin and Ward, not sure Plek can handle this job very well (or Higgins if Plek was to win the battle for the second line left wing...). I would like a guy with simmilar energy as Ferland but I doubt he is ready... Perhaps a trade or waiver pickup. Although I like Sundstrum I do not think he will be part of the team next year (call it a hunch).

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06-21-2005, 08:51 PM
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Concerning Hossa.

No, put him with Begin and Ward.
It is exactly where he would fit the best.
Last year Begin and Ward ( while healthy) made a good high energy duo. Force Hossa to keep up with them and bring whatever "A" game he's got every night. That's the only thing I felt he needed.
He has good size, good shot, he has improved his game while overseas. Let's see if he contributes some offence on that line.
Two high energy diggers and one shooter.
It's make it or break it year for Hossa. Hossa will never make the top two lines, but as a 15-17 goal guy on the forth line, he's a plus.

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06-21-2005, 09:05 PM
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As for Pleks

I hope he lands a spot with Bonk and Bulis.
Bulis is FAST, Pleks is FAST, Bonk can feed the puck up well.
With the new rules, this can turn out to be the fast break line.
Can't anyone else see Bonk turning up the ice and haveing a choice of two fast breaking wingers flying up the boards to pass to, then both Pleks and Boulis converging on the last defenceman with great speed.

and also Pleks and Bulis can chace down most players breaking away in the other direction.

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06-21-2005, 09:16 PM
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As for Higgins and Prez.

Well it all depends on Kovalev.

it could be
Prez Koivu Zednik
Higgins Ribs Ryder

or

Kovi,Koivu,Zednik
Prez Ribs Ryder

One of the four rookies will have to sit.
Until the first guy get hurt, that is !!

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06-21-2005, 09:22 PM
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Like you said, it's hard to say which Bonk we will have but I think he will be a great player for us...a lot better than in Ottawa.
Well thats extremely unlikely but you definitely have a good 2 way center. I think you'll be surprised at how effective he is on the power play, he's awesome along the boards and has excellent vision. He protects the puck very well.
He works harder than he gets credit for and is an unselfish player.

Is he a true #1 center? no. but he is most certainly one of the best second line guys around. Sure he played with really good players in Ottawa but its not like he was holding them back...he was a contributor.

He had to go simply because changes had to be made in Ottawa. He was an obvious target after all the years.
He has had in essence 2 careers already. His first 5 or so years in the league, he was really quite lost on the ice.....but all of a sudden (or so it seems now) he developed into a good solid player at both ends of the ice. His last 5 years have been very very good.
He may not crush guys with big hits but he knows how to take the body and tie guys up and you can't teach size.
I think the first 5 or 6 years were the abberation. There is a great story of how after he got drafted and arrived in Ottawa his gear showed up late, so he borrowed everything including the skates and suited up for some ice time with the rest of the team. (keep in mind he was 18 at the time) he steps out on the ice and proceeds to light up the scrimmage and left the team shaking their heads.
This is a guy who scored 50 goals in the IHL as a 17 year old and was voted "Most Entertaining person in Las Vegas" that year.

All this to say, his talent is real, he puts the team first and if we didnt have the history here with him in Ottawa he would be a guy we'd be interested in.

I would be quite surprised if given PP duties he didn't put up 20 goals and 35-40 assists.
I think 70 pts may be a stretch in Montreal but really i think it mainly depends on how much icetime he gets.

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I think the time to rebuild is over. We have to take a shot at the Cup. Higgins may or may not be ready for a scoring line role in the NHL, but I don't think he is. He didn't exactly light up the AHL. This year he would get a lot of minutes on a scoring line in the AHL, something he needs I think.

Of course, if he tears it up in camp, it's a different story.

I would rather sign Kovalev or Mogilny or Forsberg and an elite defenseman and take a shot at the Cup.

If we have to buy a couple players out to get a scorer and a #1 D, do it. In that scenario, Higgins might HAVE to make the team because you'd need more rookies to keep under the cap.

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