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12-29-2010, 08:22 PM
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I'll probably start him on the fourth line until he's got about 75-80 FIT then just work him up the right side of my offensive lines, then probably settle him in on the PP once he's at 90.



Definitely is.
You probably know this, but just in case make sure that the injured guy isn't getting stamina training because that apparently can hurt fitness.

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12-29-2010, 08:36 PM
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You probably know this, but just in case make sure that the injured guy isn't getting stamina training because that apparently can hurt fitness.
Yeah, done that already.

3 of my next four games are against playoff teams from my conference. Hoping to destroy all of them and solidify my spot as the #1 team in the conference. It'd be nice to get a little breathing room in the division as well, I'm sick of having the guy who intentionally demoted on my ass.

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12-29-2010, 09:27 PM
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Aren't FAs supposed to join your team at 9PM EST every day? I won a bid at 5 and the player still isn't on my team yet.

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12-29-2010, 09:49 PM
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I think I'm going to cut this guy, it's weird I feel bad for players that I bench or don't give playing time to lol. He was amazing offensively for me last season, but I just picked up a new offensive defense man for this season and may be picking up another for the future.

Guy I think I'm going to cut.
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=376946

New guy:
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edit- If you put your best players on lines where they will be less productive for a few games, could that lower their salary demands? If I am able to get a comfortable lead, I might do that at the end of the season.


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Won't have any effect on their salary. That's determined by TRV and AVG, IIRC.

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Aren't FAs supposed to join your team at 9PM EST every day? I won a bid at 5 and the player still isn't on my team yet.
Is he a rookie? If yes, is he stashed in your minors? They like to hide down there. Just happened to me and I had a minor freakout despite the fact that this is like the 30th FA I've signed.

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3 of my next four games are against playoff teams from my conference. Hoping to destroy all of them and solidify my spot as the #1 team in the conference. It'd be nice to get a little breathing room in the division as well, I'm sick of having the guy who intentionally demoted on my ass.
3 of my next 5 are against Irish, Dash, and Sa Cyred. 1.1 National seems to have 3 clear cut top teams based on GD - Irish and Shadowguy among them - and my team seems to be solidifying itself into the space between them and the rest of the pack, so this will be a good test for me as all three of our guys in this stretch have solid squads. Getting my new backup in early tomorrow so my starter can play the entire stretch of solid teams coming up.

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I think I'm going to cut this guy, it's weird I feel bad for players that I bench or don't give playing time to lol..
I feel bad every time I cut a player. This used to happen in Madden franchise mode too. I have to laugh at myself every time it happens.

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How do you guys feel about this trade I just made?

I gave up Rapier http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=645199

In return I got http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=715631
I think you made out like a bandit. The new guy is even with the raper at worst, so just the age difference means you won in my eyes. An extra six months of great goaltending is huge.

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12-29-2010, 10:24 PM
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Is he a rookie? If yes, is he stashed in your minors? They like to hide down there. Just happened to me and I had a minor freakout despite the fact that this is like the 30th FA I've signed.
No, he's not a rookie. Also, he is still on my bids page and his player page says he will be transferred with 24 hours.

I suppose I just got slightly screwed and won't have him in my lineup tomorrow.

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12-29-2010, 11:28 PM
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Won't have any effect on their salary. That's determined by TRV and AVG, IIRC.
Damn, thanks.

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I feel bad every time I cut a player. This used to happen in Madden franchise mode too. I have to laugh at myself every time it happens.
Haha glad to see I'm not the only one.

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12-29-2010, 11:32 PM
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There's a very good reason my core is staying mostly intact.

I'm rather attached.

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I've only felt that way towards my goalies..

season 6, half of season 7
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=359688

half of season 7, half of season 8
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=180148

-felt real bad about having to cut this guy, he was on a real hot streak when I did it and I got him in a great trade, I think he'd be useful to some of you here, and I hope one of you gives him a good home.

edit: actually I bid on him and might pick him back up again at this price to be my backup, if anyone of you can start him, please feel free to bid at this still reasonable price


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Demolished the first playoff team, 5-0. Morgans seventh shutout of the year in only 17 starts.

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12-30-2010, 09:06 AM
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HEY CGB, **** you, and you old team. Ruining my 12 game streak like that.

http://trophyhockey.org/match.php?id=317080

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12-30-2010, 09:14 AM
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What is weird is... if I saw Wings on the FA list I probably wouldn't bid on him. his playmaking abilities are only above average, not elite. Also, his checking and positioning (the two stats I value most in a pure defensive player) are so low, so he actually isn't even appealing defensively to me. The only thing I can think of is his work rate and skating abilities just make him a competitive anomaly.

Am I just not valuing work rate and skating ability enough when I evaluate players? Is he a perfect storm of above average abilities combining to make a superstar? Or does he have a hidden trait?

What do you guys think?


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HEY CGB, **** you, and you old team. Ruining my 12 game streak like that.

http://trophyhockey.org/match.php?id=317080
Haha. Looks like Wegendal **** slapped your Wimbush. Just be glad you didn't get "The Flesh" eating virus. That guy is getting screwed out of dominating that league by basically being thrown on a line with 2 below average players, one of which is a defensive shutdown center with little offensive skill. Man, I really wish I still had that team.

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http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=119276

Used up the last of my cap space to pick up this offensive defenseman. Probably gonna cut him next season. Just wanted one final piece to help my team this season.

I'm having trouble making my top pairings as I have five guys who are good candidates I think.

My top pairing:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=48051
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=642813

Second pairing:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=416493
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=650839

Where would you guys plug Oskari in? It seems like a waste putting him on the third pairing, but Wiggum and Bolund have been playing really well with the second line. The top pairing was dominant early on, but Wingrave got injured a few times.


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record: 16-0-1
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MVP: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=320869 - 33 points, 7.35 rating through 17 games... as a dman

What is weird is... if I saw Wings on the FA list I probably wouldn't bid on him. his playmaking abilities are only above average, not elite. Also, his checking and positioning (the two stats I value most in a pure defensive player) are so low, so he actually isn't even appealing defensively to me. The only thing I can think of is his work rate and skating abilities just make him a competitive anomaly.

Am I just not valuing work rate and skating ability enough when I evaluate players? Is he a perfect storm of above average abilities combining to make a superstar? Or does he have a hidden trait?

What do you guys think?
Hidden trait and a system where the offense runs out of the d-zone through him, and good/great offensive players to capitalize on the chances he helps them create.

Also, your PP is exceptional.

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2nd shutout in a row, for a 4-0 win. Two game win streak, 9-0 gf/ga

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record: 16-0-1
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MVP: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=320869 - 33 points, 7.35 rating through 17 games... as a dman

What is weird is... if I saw Wings on the FA list I probably wouldn't bid on him. his playmaking abilities are only above average, not elite. Also, his checking and positioning (the two stats I value most in a pure defensive player) are so low, so he actually isn't even appealing defensively to me. The only thing I can think of is his work rate and skating abilities just make him a competitive anomaly.

Am I just not valuing work rate and skating ability enough when I evaluate players? Is he a perfect storm of above average abilities combining to make a superstar? Or does he have a hidden trait?

What do you guys think?
Good player getting assists from great players playing in a lower league. I'd expect his stats to drop severely as you promote. Not that he'll become bad, but I think you're going to start seeing him produce in line with what you're paying him.

Also, ****. I put my new backup in as my backup instead of my starter, meaning I have to play my backup against Irish tomorrow. To top that off, I managed to lose 1-0 with the starter in there. fan****ingtastic

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record: 16-0-1
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MVP: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=320869 - 33 points, 7.35 rating through 17 games... as a dman

What is weird is... if I saw Wings on the FA list I probably wouldn't bid on him. his playmaking abilities are only above average, not elite. Also, his checking and positioning (the two stats I value most in a pure defensive player) are so low, so he actually isn't even appealing defensively to me. The only thing I can think of is his work rate and skating abilities just make him a competitive anomaly.

Am I just not valuing work rate and skating ability enough when I evaluate players? Is he a perfect storm of above average abilities combining to make a superstar? Or does he have a hidden trait?

What do you guys think?
I don't understand it. Every time I look at him I'm baffled. He seems like a good player, maybe a 35 point player but not 60+ points. It can't be his skating because it's not elite at all. I'm assuming he's just in a perfect situation for his skills. Has he had mostly the same linemates? Maybe it's just a perfect fit for him. His stamina is awesome so when others are tired he's fresh but it's not like he's the only person with 95+ stamina in the game.

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Hidden trait and a system where the offense runs out of the d-zone through him, and good/great offensive players to capitalize on the chances he helps them create.

Also, your PP is exceptional.
I would argue that my PP is exceptional BECAUSE of him, though.

Case in point:

http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=651215
37 points last year playing 1st PP unit with Wings
4 points so far this year without PP time with Wings

http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=315161
13 points career high in 3.4 before I signed him
20 points so far this year with 1st PP unit time with Wings

Wings doesn't get 2nd assists, these other dmen paired with him get those trash points, he is the primary assist on damn nearly every PP goal my team scores.

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Good player getting assists from great players playing in a lower league. I'd expect his stats to drop severely as you promote. Not that he'll become bad, but I think you're going to start seeing him produce in line with what you're paying him.
I may have agreed, but his points/game has actually increased thus far this season after promoting. Now, I know 3.x is generally the same as 4.x, but the goaltending IS much better. Maybe I will have a wakeup call next season in 2.1, but I thought I would have the same wakeup call this season and it seems someone else shut off the alarm.


Anyway, it seems like the consensus is hidden traits and being in a lower league, makes sense. I suppose I will just enjoy the ride while it lasts.

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12-30-2010, 10:19 AM
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I don't understand it. Every time I look at him I'm baffled. He seems like a good player, maybe a 35 point player but not 60+ points. It can't be his skating because it's not elite at all. I'm assuming he's just in a perfect situation for his skills. Has he had mostly the same linemates? Maybe it's just a perfect fit for him. His stamina is awesome so when others are tired he's fresh but it's not like he's the only person with 95+ stamina in the game.
Well, his stam lets me double shift him on the PP, so that has to be good for an extra 10 points a game.

His only consistent linemate has been: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=320875

The last 2 years he played with:
C: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=320862
LW: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=320881 or a 80 EPA defensive winger I cut this past offseason
D: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=651215

This season he has played with:
C: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=326190
LW: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=358680
D: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=315161

Every single one of them has had career years with Wings passing them the puck.

I now have this monster playing with him: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=575166

Can't wait to see how that turns out, haha.

Honestly, the main reason I asked is because I feel like there is some winning formula in his stats that can be extrapolated and used in future player acquisitions. I should change his nickname to Midas because everything he touches turns to gold.

I suggested skating because I don't really have any offensive oriented dmen with skating like his, but his work rate is exceptional so that may play a part.

I agree with you, though, as I said I probably wouldn't bid more than 3M for him if he were a FA.


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The 2.x leagues are much better than 3.x. Although some of my players are just as dominant while others are sucking now. It also has some to do with the change in my lineup. But, Holbrock went from about 27 points to 2 so far this year. Then you look at Wiggum who is still on pace for his 30ish points with less ice time this year. Moved him from 1st pairing to second pairing. 2.x requires a lot more depth than 3.x. I was able to get away with only 2 good lines in 3.x, but this year I have to run 3 solid lines and a competent fourth line just to make the playoffs.

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Used up the last of my cap space to pick up this offensive defenseman. Probably gonna cut him next season. Just wanted one final piece to help my team this season.

I'm having trouble making my top pairings as I have five guys who are good candidates I think.

My top pairing:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=48051
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=642813

Second pairing:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=416493
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=650839

Where would you guys plug Oskari in? It seems like a waste putting him on the third pairing, but Wiggum and Bolund have been playing really well with the second line. The top pairing was dominant early on, but Wingrave got injured a few times.
I would demote Wingrave to 3rd pairing and put Petterqvist with Savard. He is the most suited for a defensive role of the 5 and he also doesn't seem to be having TOO much success on that 1st pairing since he is a -1.

Plus, Petterqvist and Savard will be nasty together and I wouldn't break up Wiggum and Bolund if you paid me with their current production.

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I don't understand it. Every time I look at him I'm baffled. He seems like a good player, maybe a 35 point player but not 60+ points. It can't be his skating because it's not elite at all. I'm assuming he's just in a perfect situation for his skills. Has he had mostly the same linemates? Maybe it's just a perfect fit for him. His stamina is awesome so when others are tired he's fresh but it's not like he's the only person with 95+ stamina in the game.
Is he on a DnC line?

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Is he on a DnC line?
He is a dman, so it is my understanding that that does not matter. However, this season his PP and ES lines have both been DnC, last season his line was combinations at ES and DnC on the PP, iirc.

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