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01-03-2011, 11:11 AM
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He doesn't suck at 5 on 5, he just doesn't score much. He rarely hurts the team, he rarely makes a mistake, and he chews up ice-time for a dirt cheap contract.

If you could sign 3 guys like Tom Pyatt to play on your 4th line, play 10-12 minutes per game of normally mistake-free hockey - you'd have a better chance at winning. Your PK would be top notch, you're shutdown line would be above average, and you'd have more money to spend on your top-9.

What does Travis Moen do so much better than Pyatt? Hit? Fight? He's not very good at either. And Pyatt is better defensively and just as good on the forecheck. 3 Tom Pyatt's would make the same about $$$ as one Travis Moen. That right there would save you, at minimum, $1M per season on the cap.


You can feel however you want, my feeling on Pyatt is right above.

And I'd take Sjostrom on the Habs in a heartbeat though.
You would never win a thing with 3 Tom Pyatts. He is terrible 5vs5. He has no offensive capability or instincts. Redundant on a team that can't freaking score.

I know you admire Tommy Pyatt for his hard work and underdog status, but he just isn't a NHL calibre hockey player. He doesn't belong on any roster. He has great character and work ethics and I have nothing againt him, but he sucks.

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01-03-2011, 11:15 AM
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You would never win a thing with 3 Tom Pyatts. He is terrible 5vs5. He has no offensive capability or instincts. Redundant on a team that can't freaking score.

I know you admire Tommy Pyatt for his hard work and underdog status, but he just isn't a NHL calibre hockey player. He doesn't belong on any roster. He has great character and work ethics and I have nothing againt him, but he sucks.
Pyatt would probably be very useful to a team like Pittsburgh or Washington, tons of offensive talent who have the luxury of carrying a top PK specialist without expecting offensive contribution.

Unfortunately, with the offensively challenged Habs, Pyatt is a luxury we cannot afford.

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from this one game, it's obvious already that he'll need to improve his skating if he wants to stick as a regular NHLer.
Huh!!

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01-03-2011, 11:26 AM
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Pyatt would probably be very useful to a team like Pittsburgh or Washington, tons of offensive talent who have the luxury of carrying a top PK specialist without expecting offensive contribution.

Unfortunately, with the offensively challenged Habs, Pyatt is a luxury we cannot afford.
Do you really think Pittsburgh and Washington would like this clown ? Wsh have Hendricks, Steckel, King etc. Pittsburgh have Asham, Rupp, Cooke... It's not the same philosophy about what a bottom 6 is suppose to be. And all those players are able to kill the penalties

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01-03-2011, 12:00 PM
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Do you really think Pittsburgh and Washington would like this clown ? Wsh have Hendricks, Steckel, King etc. Pittsburgh have Asham, Rupp, Cooke... It's not the same philosophy about what a bottom 6 is suppose to be. And all those players are able to kill the penalties
I consider Pyatt a premiere PK'er. That's his only usefulness. All I said is that he's a luxury better suited to teams that have an abundance of offensive talent.

Although Asham, Cook and Rupp have more usefulness on a team, they are not necessarily better Pk'ers and you know how important the PK/PP is in the playoffs.

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01-03-2011, 02:01 PM
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I consider Pyatt a premiere PK'er. That's his only usefulness. All I said is that he's a luxury better suited to teams that have an abundance of offensive talent.

Although Asham, Cook and Rupp have more usefulness on a team, they are not necessarily better Pk'ers and you know how important the PK/PP is in the playoffs.
I agree he is better suited for a team capable of scoring, but I still don't think either team would have a spot for him.

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01-03-2011, 03:07 PM
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Alright boys, there's a Pyatt thread now.. please take it there since we all got off-topic a little. Desharnais talk here now.

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01-03-2011, 03:51 PM
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Desharnais named player of the Month for December.

http://theahl.com/player-of-the-mont...arnais-p168496

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01-03-2011, 05:40 PM
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I consider Pyatt a premiere PK'er. That's his only usefulness. All I said is that he's a luxury better suited to teams that have an abundance of offensive talent.

Although Asham, Cook and Rupp have more usefulness on a team, they are not necessarily better Pk'ers and you know how important the PK/PP is in the playoffs.
Pens -> 2nd in PK...

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Pens -> 2nd in PK...
They get a lot of practice, being the most penalized team in the league. Seriously the NHL And NFL have some brain dead rankings. Best PK should be fewest goals allowed, not best %. Just like the best D is the one that allows the fewest points, not the fewest yards.

Not to say your point isn't valid. Just haye way they keep the 'best' PP and PK stats and 'best' O and D in football too.

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Pens -> 2nd in PK...
I must be missing something. None of them play the PK.

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They get a lot of practice, being the most penalized team in the league. Seriously the NHL And NFL have some brain dead rankings. Best PK should be fewest goals allowed, not best %. Just like the best D is the one that allows the fewest points, not the fewest yards.

Not to say your point isn't valid. Just haye way they keep the 'best' PP and PK stats and 'best' O and D in football too.
No, Hypothetically speaking, if a team took 1 penalty all year and gave up 1 goal, should they have the best ranked penalty kill? Fewest goals would mean your team is just disciplined not best at killing penalties.

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They get a lot of practice, being the most penalized team in the league. Seriously the NHL And NFL have some brain dead rankings. Best PK should be fewest goals allowed, not best %. Just like the best D is the one that allows the fewest points, not the fewest yards.
Best PK ought to be measured according to how good it is, not how often a team is penalised. Obviously teams who are penalised more often under your stat-keeping would wind up always being those with more goals against...

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They get a lot of practice, being the most penalized team in the league. Seriously the NHL And NFL have some brain dead rankings. Best PK should be fewest goals allowed, not best %. Just like the best D is the one that allows the fewest points, not the fewest yards.

Not to say your point isn't valid. Just haye way they keep the 'best' PP and PK stats and 'best' O and D in football too.
would make perfect sense to have the team 1 in 2 on PK ahead of the team 48 in 50... yup...

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