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12-30-2010, 11:26 AM
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Carcillo is useless, Walker is useless and not a roster player. What's the problem from the Flyers end with Carsuck, Walksuck, Carle going to Calgary?

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i just showed the credibilty........he is the Wade Redden of the Flames IMO
All you've shown is that you don't understand what kind of player Regher is.

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Hi all, Flames fan here. I've been on the 'blow it up' bandwagon for 8 months or so now, and it finally looks like we're gonna get somewhere with it. So with that in mind, would the Flyers look at acquiring Robyn Regehr? Pair him with Pronger or on the 2nd defense pair with Timmonen, and you've either got one devastating defense tandem that will physically destroy any top forward in the league, or you've got two elite shutdown pairs.

Regehr has one more year on his contract at I believe 4.5M, and is currently 32. Rumors of his demise are greatly exaggerated; since being paired with J-Bo, the Flames defense has been greatly improved. He's not the best skater ever, but he's no Adrian 'The Tortoise' Aucoin. He is excellent positionally, and still lays out the big hit at opportune times.

As a Flame fan, I'd hope to get JvR + picks/prospects + Salary dump (O'Donnell+ for instance) or at least start with JvR and build from there.

Would the Flyers be interested in doing this or something similar?
No not a chance.

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12-30-2010, 03:24 PM
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How about Zherdev and Carter for Iginla, Backlund, and your #1 pick in 2011?

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Carle+Carcillo for Regehr would be great. Even better if we can trick the Flames into thinking that Shelley is desirable.

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12-30-2010, 07:56 PM
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So in exchange for a guy who would combine with Pronger to give Crosby and Malkin night terrors, you won't give up a guy who's scoring at less than 0.5 PPG? Just because he was a former 2nd overall pick? I'd say the addition of Regehr has a far greater impact on the Flyers' fortunes than the loss of JvR.

But I guess you all would know better than me. So counter-propose with something more realistic than 2 2nd rounders. A first, a third, and a salary dump, I don't know.
No, because JVR still has the potential to be a 60-70-point player and because Regehr would not help us that much. Additionally he would totally screw up the Flyers' cap.

What would give you the impression the Flyers were in the market for D? They have a solid top pairing that logged tons of minutes on a big run last year, they have a very good second pairing anchored by a #1 or at least 1A/1B type of guy who has a good partner. Even the third pairing has a top four caliber guy for any team (leading DMen in +/-) and a very good vet who performs well. Bartulis is a decent depth DMan, too. We'd be more interested in another depth guy like him, an 8th serviceable D would be nice, but those don't cost $4.5M and good young players.

Based on the price of D rentals and long-term rentals, I think you could fleece a contender with the cap space (or close to it) out of a first or possibly two 2nds, a 2nd/3rd ... something like that.

No one is going to give you an elite or top-of-the-second-tier prospect for Regehr.

He is better than Hannan but requires more of a commitment. I just don't see him commanding anything near what you're saying. And I know his game pretty well, I have covered the Flames several times, including a couple games this season.

Even the most encouraging responses you're getting--about receiving Carle--are not realistic. You could not get a top four DMan that age/caliber for him.

Think about what you got for Phaneuf and work backwards; he is not nearly as valuable given his age, salary and contract status.

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How about Zherdev and Carter for Iginla, Backlund, and your #1 pick in 2011?
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I don't think it's good policy to tell Optimus Prime no very often, and avoid it if possible.


But, no.

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Carcillo is useless, Walker is useless and not a roster player. What's the problem from the Flyers end with Carsuck, Walksuck, Carle going to Calgary?
I'll never understand why Flyers fans think Carcillo is useless. Everyone needs to get over that Homer traded Upshall for him. Boo hoo.

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Carle Walker Shelley Carcillo Leighton

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Regehr


I mean, how could you NOT say no to that package?

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Carle+Carcillo for Regehr would be great. Even better if we can trick the Flames into thinking that Shelley is desirable.
It seemed to work with Stajan and Hagman

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Carle Walker Shelley Carcillo Leighton

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I mean, how could you NOT say no to that package?
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I'd give you Matt Carle and Dan Carcillo
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Throw in JvR and a 2nd and it's a deal. We'll even throw in Glencross.


I hate feeding trolls... but get serious please. really. please.

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It seemed to work with Stajan and Hagman
Changing of the guard. We're out of luck.

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Changing of the guard. We're out of luck.

Jay Feaster could be swayed if we sent him a seven-foot sub from Campo's. He'd be delivering Backlund for Shelley by the time he got to the fifth bite of his Original Cin.

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So in exchange for a guy who would combine with Pronger to give Crosby and Malkin night terrors, you won't give up a guy who's scoring at less than 0.5 PPG? Just because he was a former 2nd overall pick? I'd say the addition of Regehr has a far greater impact on the Flyers' fortunes than the loss of JvR.

But I guess you all would know better than me. So counter-propose with something more realistic than 2 2nd rounders. A first, a third, and a salary dump, I don't know.
One word: age, buddy, age. Pray tell, how old is Robyn compared to JVR? And will JVR be getting better than he is now... while Robyn will start sliding?

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I hate feeding trolls... but get serious please. really. please.
I know you don't care, but I'm honestly not trying to troll. I'm sorry for undervaluing JvR; it just seems like he's a forgotten man when the Flyers get talked about. I thought maybe management might be looking to move him. Clearly his value is way higher than I had thought.

With that said, Robyn Regehr is worth a lot more than Carle/Carcillo. Carle plus some combination of prospects/2nd/3rd rounders, I'm not sure what. I don't really follow the Flyers that closely. Though HF has the Flyers ranked 28th as far as prospect depth goes, and like the Flames, most of that depth looks to be on the blue line and in goal.

So with that said, I have no idea. IF Holmgren wanted Regehr, he could probably get him. But none of you really seem to want him, so it is what it is.

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I know you don't care, but I'm honestly not trying to troll. I'm sorry for undervaluing JvR; it just seems like he's a forgotten man when the Flyers get talked about. I thought maybe management might be looking to move him. Clearly his value is way higher than I had thought.
It's not just you who doesn't understand that JVR is playing very well despite limited time. And besides him playing well, every once in a while there are those flashes where he just dominates everything that makes me think, even for a second, he could be the most dominant forward on this team in a few years. Of course that would be hard with Carter, Richards, Giroux, etc, but when he gets his legs driving he's a force.

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With that said, Robyn Regehr is worth a lot more than Carle/Carcillo. Carle plus some combination of prospects/2nd/3rd rounders, I'm not sure what. I don't really follow the Flyers that closely. Though HF has the Flyers ranked 28th as far as prospect depth goes, and like the Flames, most of that depth looks to be on the blue line and in goal.
The Flyers prospect pool is short on forwards. We don't really have any bluechips, but we have quite a few quality defenseman and a couple good goalies.

We also need our picks. It doesn't look like the Flyers and Flames are good trading partners.

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So with that said, I have no idea. IF Holmgren wanted Regehr, he could probably get him. But none of you really seem to want him, so it is what it is.
He'd be a nice upgrade to Carle, and Meszaros would take Carle's spot making our defense look like:

Pronger - Meszaros
Timonen - Coburn
Regehr - O'Donnell

It looks nice, but it's not particularly necessary to acquire Regehr.

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Homer has said that JVR isn't going to get moved, and I think that's wise. He still has some developing left to do, and I want to see where it goes.

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The Flyers prospect pool is short on forwards. We don't really have any bluechips, but we have quite a few quality defenseman and a couple good goalies.
who are these quality dman you speak of? You cant be speaking baout the ones who have regressed this year can you? So you still think gus or the finn will still be a potential replacement for carel next year? Gus while with the big club cant even get a spot start over Bartulis, who hasnt looked all that good. That speaks volumes right now.

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I know you don't care, but I'm honestly not trying to troll. I'm sorry for undervaluing JvR; it just seems like he's a forgotten man when the Flyers get talked about. I thought maybe management might be looking to move him. Clearly his value is way higher than I had thought.

With that said, Robyn Regehr is worth a lot more than Carle/Carcillo. Carle plus some combination of prospects/2nd/3rd rounders, I'm not sure what. I don't really follow the Flyers that closely. Though HF has the Flyers ranked 28th as far as prospect depth goes, and like the Flames, most of that depth looks to be on the blue line and in goal.

So with that said, I have no idea. IF Holmgren wanted Regehr, he could probably get him. But none of you really seem to want him, so it is what it is.
Not to the Flyers.

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