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Marc-Andre Bergeron (TBL), Trent Whitfield (BOS), Kyle Wilson (CBJ) - [All cleared]

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01-05-2011, 12:19 PM
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Marc-Andre Bergeron (TBL), Trent Whitfield (BOS), Kyle Wilson (CBJ) - [All cleared]

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M-A Bergeron, as expected, officially put on NHL waivers by lightning at noon ET
now bolts cross their fingers.

also Whifeild in Boston and Kyle Wilson in CBJ as per Bob Mckenzie


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Nashville picked up Svatos so who knows I guess.

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Why does he need to be waived first? Did he play in Europe earlier this season?

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Why does he need to be waived first? Did he play in Europe earlier this season?
Nope. I don't see why they need to waive him either.

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Why does he need to be waived first? Did he play in Europe earlier this season?
He doesn't "need" to be waived - he could have been put on Tampa's roster immediately after they signed him if they wanted to. But they're concerned about his knee (offseason surgery) and the fact that he hasn't played hockey in six months or whatever. So he's going to the AHL to get back into game shape and then they'll call him up. And they want him down there for longer than a conditioning stint (which he wouldn't have to be waived for, either).

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Wouln't he need to be put on re-entry when he comes back up then?

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He can be assigned to the AHL on a conditioning stint, and wouldn't have to be put on waivers.

I believe it is to do with the number of days that have passed in the season...

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Wouln't he need to be put on re-entry when he comes back up then?
I think so but if you didn't claim him when he was waived originally why claim him later on?

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I think so but if you didn't claim him when he was waived originally why claim him later on?
Get him for half the salary.

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He doesn't "need" to be waived - he could have been put on Tampa's roster immediately after they signed him if they wanted to. But they're concerned about his knee (offseason surgery) and the fact that he hasn't played hockey in six months or whatever. So he's going to the AHL to get back into game shape and then they'll call him up. And they want him down there for longer than a conditioning stint (which he wouldn't have to be waived for, either).
Ah, thanks. That makes sense, now that I think about it. Maybe now he can help sabotage Tampa a little bit so the Rangers actually stand a chance the next time they play against each other....

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I think so but if you didn't claim him when he was waived originally why claim him later on?

'cuz he's half price on reentry waivers ... and if he's playing well enough for Tampa to want to call him up, well his knee must be ok!!

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I think they intend to keep him there until the playoffs where he wouldn't have to pass reentry waivers. Keep cap hit down while adding some depth for the playoffs.

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That's why they signed him for so much . So that if he would go through re entry waivers that he wouldn't be that inexpensive.

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'cuz he's half price on reentry waivers ... and if he's playing well enough for Tampa to want to call him up, well his knee must be ok!!
He won't hit re-entry waivers his AHL salary is too low. He will go straight to the big club if I understand correctly.

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He doesn't "need" to be waived - he could have been put on Tampa's roster immediately after they signed him if they wanted to. But they're concerned about his knee (offseason surgery) and the fact that he hasn't played hockey in six months or whatever. So he's going to the AHL to get back into game shape and then they'll call him up. And they want him down there for longer than a conditioning stint (which he wouldn't have to be waived for, either).
I believe this is right. They want him down there for longer than a conditioning stint.
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He won't hit re-entry waivers his AHL salary is too low. He will go straight to the big club if I understand correctly.
Correct. He is not subject to re-entry waivers

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No offense if they wanted him to play some on the farm why not get their farm team to sign him to a PTO or two and then sign him when he is ready to play in the NHL?

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Couldn't they avoid waivers by putting him down in the AHL for a conditioning stint?

Or would that only work after an injury?

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Couldn't they avoid waivers by putting him down in the AHL for a conditioning stint?

Or would that only work after an injury?
A conditioning stint is only good for 2 weeks or 5 games which ever comes first. They want him down longer than that.

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I didn't realize having such a low salary would mean he's not subjected to re-entry waivers. That's actually a great sign by stevie y. 1 mil on a waiver player who hasn't played all season is too risky, nobody will claim & he clears. Now hell get paid 100k in ahl, which is nothing to an nhl club. But bc he is only making that, he can be called up when he's ready & they can't lose him. Very smart imo

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A conditioning stint is only good for 2 weeks or 5 games which ever comes first. They want him down longer than that.
Close. It's 14 days, but no limits on the number of games.

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RIP Kyle Wilson's NHL career.

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I didn't realize having such a low salary would mean he's not subjected to re-entry waivers. That's actually a great sign by stevie y. 1 mil on a waiver player who hasn't played all season is too risky, nobody will claim & he clears. Now hell get paid 100k in ahl, which is nothing to an nhl club. But bc he is only making that, he can be called up when he's ready & they can't lose him. Very smart imo
Yeah, that's some serious GM'ing.

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RIP Kyle Wilson's NHL career.
He got into more games than I ever thought he would after leaving Washington/Hershey, good luck to him, hope he gets back to the NHL.

Seems like a really good guy from all accounts, still, I'll always remember how awkwardly unemotional he was when he was interviewed on his birthday in his first NHL games between periods after scoring his first NHL point .

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