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01-13-2011, 05:44 PM
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Ok, so, who do you consider untradeable on this team.

I'm not talking about NTC or NMC's, im talking about guys you value so much you wouldnt move them for anything outside of a gross overpayment (Stamkos for Stepan for example).

Personally speaking:

Cally
Dubi
Staal
Henrik
Gabby
Kreider
AA
Grachev
Stepan

EDIT (forgot Stepan)


I know ppl have soured on Grachev and AA over the past few years, but i still absolutely love/believe in em.
Here's a different twist.

Players only, no prospects. In order of importance.

Group 1 <--Wouldn't trade any of these players or combo of unless your name is Crosby, Ovechkin, Stamkos, Toews, Kane, Getzlaf, Malkin, Doughty, Stewart, Parise, Backstrom, Sedin

1) Henrik
2) Dubinsky
3) Staal


Group 2 <--Wouldn't trade any of these guys or combo of unless your name is Kopitar, Semin, Kesler, E Staal, B Richards, Carter, M Richards, Ryan, Perry, Heatley, Iginla,

1) Callahan
2) Gaborik
3) Girardi
4) Anisimov
5) Stepan

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01-13-2011, 06:05 PM
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Here's a different twist.

Players only, no prospects. In order of importance.

Group 1 <--Wouldn't trade any of these players or combo of unless your name is Crosby, Ovechkin, Stamkos, Toews, Kane, Getzlaf, Malkin, Doughty, Stewart, Parise, Backstrom, Sedin

1) Henrik
2) Dubinsky
3) Staal


Group 2 <--Wouldn't trade any of these guys or combo of unless your name is Kopitar, Semin, Kesler, E Staal, B Richards, Carter, M Richards, Ryan, Perry, Heatley, Iginla,

1) Callahan
2) Gaborik
3) Girardi
4) Anisimov
5) Stepan
Theres a lot of fail here but the bold is mind-numbing.

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01-13-2011, 06:09 PM
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In no particular order:

Callahan
Lundqvist
Staal
Dubinsky
Anisimov
Stepan
Girardi
Kreider

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01-13-2011, 06:34 PM
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Lundqvist
Dubinsky
Staal
Kreider
Callahan
Girardi
Stepan
Sauer
Anisimov
McDonagh
Del Zotto
McIlrath
Boyle
Prust

You could say its too long a list.

But realistically no one is offering anything I'd want for them.

And IMO those guys together as a team are more valuable then any one player we would get in return for a few of them in a package.

I've been saying this now for years.

Team > individual superstar


(I only have two prospects on that list Kreider and McIlrath, everyone else has NHL experience)

If Werek signs over the summer, I'm adding him. He's going to be good.

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01-13-2011, 06:51 PM
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Hank , Staal , MDZ , Dubinsky & Cally. On the fence for MZA , i've really liked what I've seen so far.

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01-13-2011, 07:01 PM
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IMO, no team has more than about 3-4 untradeable players. Untradeable players from where I'm coming from are rare players who you would find it hard to replace...special players.

So my list would be:

Henrik
Staal
Gaborik

Cally and Dubi would be in the next group. Players who you really want to keep because of who they are and what they represent. But are not on the same playing level as the 3 guys listedn above.

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01-13-2011, 07:11 PM
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Stepan
Callahan
Dubinsky
Lundqvist
Staal
Girardi

Close:

Del Zotto
McDonagh
Sauer
Anisimov
Prust + Boyle (more valuable to us than any team would pay us)

I'm torn between placing Anisimov in the first group or the second.

Edit: Kreider on the close list. He's more valuable to us while he hasn't proven anything. He could come into this league and be a big time player, but until he shows that, teams won't give too much for him because how he pans out is up in the air.

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01-13-2011, 07:52 PM
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Lundqist
Staal
Callahan
Dubinsky
Stepan
Zuccarello
Kreider
McDonagh
Anisimov
Boyle
Girardi
Sauer

Because i don`t think we could get an upgrade for any of those guys. And i sense that we are in the midst of creating a dangerous team with a great team chemistry that can be dangerous for years to come.

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01-13-2011, 08:58 PM
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Hank
Dubi
Cally
Staal
Stepan

that's it. some of these lists are a bit ridiculous with the number of people on them.

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01-13-2011, 09:05 PM
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IMO, no team has more than about 3-4 untradeable players. Untradeable players from where I'm coming from are rare players who you would find it hard to replace...special players.

So my list would be:

Henrik
Staal
Gaborik

Cally and Dubi would be in the next group. Players who you really want to keep because of who they are and what they represent. But are not on the same playing level as the 3 guys listedn above.
gabby is much less "untradeable" than cally or dubi. yea gaborik is elite...when's he's "on," when he's healthy, when he's playing with the right line, etc. cally and dubi bring it every night and are growing more and more irreplaceable. i trade gabby before any of those guys.

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Here's a different twist.

Players only, no prospects. In order of importance.

Group 1 <--Wouldn't trade any of these players or combo of unless your name is Crosby, Ovechkin, Stamkos, Toews, Kane, Getzlaf, Malkin, Doughty, Stewart, Parise, Backstrom, Sedin

1) Henrik
2) Dubinsky
3) Staal


Group 2 <--Wouldn't trade any of these guys or combo of unless your name is Kopitar, Semin, Kesler, E Staal, B Richards, Carter, M Richards, Ryan, Perry, Heatley, Iginla,

1) Callahan
2) Gaborik
3) Girardi
4) Anisimov
5) Stepan
a big and to those bolded.

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01-13-2011, 09:30 PM
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I don't think I'd trade anyone right now.

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01-13-2011, 09:37 PM
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Staal
Dubinsky
Calahan
Anisimov
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Henrik
Stepan
Dubi
Cally
Staal
Girardi - purely for how well he plays with Staal

I feel like Grachev/Kreider aren't NHL proven, so like others have said could be on the block - and I'd place them there - for proven talent, that could perhaps bring us a Cup now or improve. I don't feel like Gabby leaving would have too much of an impact if we were to trade him, definitely entertain offers no problem.

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01-13-2011, 09:54 PM
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This is a strange topic.

Would you trade Callahan for Patrick Kane? Then he's not untradeable.

Dubinsky for Henrik Sedin?

Staal for Shea Weber?

Gaborik for Malkin?

Stepan for Anze Kopitar?

Get the point? It's all relative. Nobody is untradeable.
I'm not actually sure I'd trade Staal for Weber to be honest.

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01-13-2011, 10:04 PM
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Lundqvist is probably the only person I see as 'untouchable.'

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Ok, so, who do you consider untradeable on this team.

I'm not talking about NTC or NMC's, im talking about guys you value so much you wouldnt move them for anything outside of a gross overpayment (Stamkos for Stepan for example).

Personally speaking:

Cally
Dubi
Staal
Henrik
Gabby
Kreider
AA
Grachev
Stepan

EDIT (forgot Stepan)


I know ppl have soured on Grachev and AA over the past few years, but i still absolutely love/believe in em.
I would add Girardi and be ok with letting Grachev go if it was the right return longterm and thats my list. AA is an absolute must keep for me. Maybe keep DZ as well depending how his game rounds out.

I remember when Sangs was on this list... just saying.

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01-13-2011, 11:35 PM
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Honestly, the only guys on our current roster I wouldn't trade for pretty much anything:

Lundqvist
Staal
Girardi
Dubinsky
Callahan
YES.. That's all.

Players like Del Zotto.. Stepan..
They are def tradable no doubt..

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The only player who's untradeable imo, is Henrik Lundqvist. After that, every player on our team can be had for the right price. That includes my favorite forwards (Dubi+Cally), favorite dmen (Staal+Girardi/MDZ), and favorite prospects (Stepan+Kreider).

If a trade improves the team, that's all I really care about.

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Under no circumstances would I trade any of the following, unless the return involved a Crosby or Datsyuk level player coming back:

Lundqvist, Callahan, Staal. Sauer eventually joins this group.

Your goal is always to have the best players for every role. That's why players like Callahan should be off limits. Unless we're recieving one of the top 5-10 players in the league, Callahan should be off limits. And I imagine Sauer will be in the same category eventually. I'd be hesitant to trade a prospect like Werek for the same reason.

Players like Dubinsky, Gaborik and Girardi, who are good, but not the best league-wide in their role, I would consider trading if it meant getting a player who fills the same role but does so better. For example, Eriksson for Dubinsky, off the top of my head.

Stepan I'd be hesitant to trade unless it was in a package for a very, very good center or defenseman.

Players like Anisimov, Boyle, Prust, Del Zotto, McDonagh, McIlrath, Wolski, Drury I wouldn't have a problem moving if it made sense and made the team better overall.

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Honestly, the only guys on our current roster I wouldn't trade for pretty much anything:

Lundqvist
Staal
Girardi
Dubinsky
Callahan
Agreed.

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01-14-2011, 02:50 AM
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Ok, so, who do you consider untradeable on this team.

I'm not talking about NTC or NMC's, im talking about guys you value so much you wouldnt move them for anything outside of a gross overpayment (Stamkos for Stepan for example).

Personally speaking:

Cally
Dubi
Staal
Henrik
Gabby
Kreider
AA
Grachev
Stepan

EDIT (forgot Stepan)


I know ppl have soured on Grachev and AA over the past few years, but i still absolutely love/believe in em.
I think your list is far too long, and kind of devalues the word "untradable"

For me:
Staal
Lundqvist
Callahan
Dubinsky
Gaborik

and MAYBE Stepan

Then the list of players I'd rather NOT see traded but certainly don't consider to be untradeable would have:
Girardi
Del Zotto
Stepan
Zuccarello
Sauer
Kreider
Werek
Valentenko

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As of right now (and these lists are so fickle based on play):

Lundqvist
Staal
Dubi
Cally
Kreider
Stepan

It would take a lot to get

MDZ
Gabs
MZA

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Callahan, Dubinsky, Stepan, Sauer, Staal, Girardi, Lundqvist, Boyle, Prust, Zuccarello, Anisimov get my vote.

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gabby is much less "untradeable" than cally or dubi. yea gaborik is elite...when's he's "on," when he's healthy, when he's playing with the right line, etc. cally and dubi bring it every night and are growing more and more irreplaceable. i trade gabby before any of those guys.
I understand that but if Gabby gets back to where we all kno he should be. He is our best forward not named Henrik....by a distance. I cant use this bad season to judge him when he has had years of playing at an elite standard.

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Ok, so, who do you consider untradeable on this team.

I'm not talking about NTC or NMC's, im talking about guys you value so much you wouldnt move them for anything outside of a gross overpayment (Stamkos for Stepan for example).

Personally speaking:

Cally
Dubi
Staal
Henrik
Gabby
Kreider
AA
Grachev
Stepan

EDIT (forgot Stepan)


I know ppl have soured on Grachev and AA over the past few years, but i still absolutely love/believe in em.
also add:

Sauer, Zuccarello, Wolski, Prust, Boyle, Girardi, Del Zotto, Eminger, McDonagh I wouldn't want to trade anyone unless the other team is really overpaying for them.

Sauer I would consider for rookie of the year, he is that good defensively.

Drury who would replace his intangibles?

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