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01-14-2011, 11:00 AM
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Yes, but there's a big difference between Boucher/Leighton... and Boucher/Bob. Bob isn't perfect yet, but he probably has the best athleticism between the pipes that we've seen around here in some time.
Pretty much what I was going for. Bob is developing and will only be better come playoff time. Boucher is Boucher, solid with the right personnel in front, and except for the occasional off-night, will do what we need him to do. I feel confident with a Bob/Boucher tandem in net. I'd say the biggest thing they need to fix is the lack of discipline...that's something that a trade won't fix.

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01-14-2011, 11:01 AM
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Homer should be publicly flogged if he trades JvR

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So what are you saying? We'll be fine in playoffs with Bobrovsky and Boucher? Because both goalies arguable better than last year combination Leighton/Boucher?
Ah, no. I've been pretty explicit around here in stating that I don't think we have much of a shot at the Cup this year because of our goaltending. However, if the organization feels that Bob is the potential future in net for this team, then there is good reason to pop that playoff cherry now and see what happens.

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01-14-2011, 11:03 AM
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Pretty much what I was going for. Bob is developing and will only be better come playoff time. Boucher is Boucher, solid with the right personnel in front, and except for the occasional off-night, will do what we need him to do. I feel confident with a Bob/Boucher tandem in net. I'd say the biggest thing they need to fix is the lack of discipline...that's something that a trade won't fix.
We're of slightly different minds here. I think it makes sense to roll the dice with Bob because of his potential future returns for this organization. It made no sense to roll the dice with Boucher/Leighton because they never had much future potential, IMO.

So, it's two different situations.

If you're focused entirely on winning this year, then making a trade for a goalie is something that you should probably advocate, IMO.

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01-14-2011, 11:07 AM
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Pretty much what I was going for. Bob is developing and will only be better come playoff time. Boucher is Boucher, solid with the right personnel in front, and except for the occasional off-night, will do what we need him to do. I feel confident with a Bob/Boucher tandem in net. I'd say the biggest thing they need to fix is the lack of discipline...that's something that a trade won't fix.
Really? Based on freaking what?

I guess you think Bobrovsky will pull Patrick Roy.
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If you're focused entirely on winning this year, then making a trade for a goalie is something that you should probably advocate, IMO.
We are a contender while Timonen and Pronger still got it not because we have Bob

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01-14-2011, 11:15 AM
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Carter and Zherdev for Iginal and Glencross....? Done.

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01-14-2011, 11:16 AM
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We are a contender while Timonen and Pronger still got it not because we have Bob
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The top prospect is probably Joacim Eriksson guys, calm down.

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Carter and Zherdev for Iginal and Glencross....? Done.
Cartsiephan wants to trade Carter?

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Carter and Zherdev for Iginal and Glencross....? Done.
This is ****ing stupid.

Iginla is 33! And makes $7 mill the next 2 years! Of course Calgary would make that trade because we shouldnt.

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01-14-2011, 11:25 AM
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The top prospect is probably Joacim Eriksson guys, calm down.
If this rumor holds any value it's not Eriksson. Eklund said himself the "prospect" is in the Flyers lineup

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If this rumor holds any value it's not Eriksson. Eklund said himself the "prospect" is in the Flyers lineup
Nodl, JVR, and Bob are the only guys in the lineup I would consider "prospects".

Losing JVR or BOB will hurt this team more then help it. Nodl in a package for Vokoun doesnt bother me a bit. **** Stillman though, DO NOT WANT.

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Trading Carter for Iginla is an incredibly terrible idea.

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If this rumor holds any value it's not Eriksson. Eklund said himself the "prospect" is in the Flyers lineup
I actually saw Eklund said the prospect is someone currently in the Flyers lineup after I posted my original comment, and if thats the case then I don't know. I think its obvious the "major need" would be goalie, but why would we deal Bob or JVR? It doesn't make any sense, but maybe - hopefully - Nodl is getting confused with a top prospect.

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01-14-2011, 11:41 AM
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nothing is going to happen, Eklund is an idiot

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We're of slightly different minds here. I think it makes sense to roll the dice with Bob because of his potential future returns for this organization. It made no sense to roll the dice with Boucher/Leighton because they never had much future potential, IMO.

So, it's two different situations.

If you're focused entirely on winning this year, then making a trade for a goalie is something that you should probably advocate, IMO.
I'm in an agreement with that, but the last part, depends on who you go after. I keep seeing the name "Vokoun" in this thread. Goaltending is important, but to take on Vokoun's cap hit we'd have to give up a significant player, which I'm against.

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01-14-2011, 12:16 PM
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Cartsiephan wants to trade Carter?

SHOCKING
LOL - This must be the time of year that he enjoys the most, the possibility of a Carter trade is to him as a brand new bike is to a 4 year old on his birthday. Give it up already, we signed him for 11 years......sit back and relax, he isn't going anywhere.

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I believe it to be Coburn + Boucher for Vokoun. That works for me and Florida would see Coburn as a blue-chip up and coming D-man. I am ready to trade Coburn.

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01-14-2011, 12:21 PM
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I believe it to be Coburn + Boucher for Vokoun. That works for me and Florida would see Coburn as a blue-chip up and coming D-man. I am ready to trade Coburn.



Carle instead of Coburn would make me happy enough. Couldn't see Florida doing that until the 23rd hour of deadline day though.

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01-14-2011, 12:35 PM
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Carle instead of Coburn would make me happy enough. Couldn't see Florida doing that until the 23rd hour of deadline day though.
Why do people always want to trade Coburn over Carle? Carle is an obvious choice to move based on his contract and dubious play. Coburn is a real important D man to have for the playoffs...yeah last year he was pretty bad but this year he's been way more consistent. The guy logs big minutes and is a big body that can skate...even though he's not as fast as when we first got him.

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Why do people always want to trade Coburn over Carle? Carle is an obvious choice to move based on his contract and dubious play. Coburn is a real important D man to have for the playoffs...yeah last year he was pretty bad but this year he's been way more consistent. The guy logs big minutes and is a big body that can skate...even though he's not as fast as when we first got him.
I think they're pretty much the same deal. Coburn is a bit better defensively, and Carle is better offensively.

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Coburn is able to jump into the offense when needed. His role with this team, though is to be more defensive minded. Carle can't kill penalties. Coburn can. There are plenty of Dmen who can work the point on the PP for the Flyers. Deal Carle.

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Coburn is able to jump into the offense when needed. His role with this team, though is to be more defensive minded. Carle can't kill penalties. Coburn can. There are plenty of Dmen who can work the point on the PP for the Flyers. Deal Carle.
Coburn is useless offensively. He can jump in because he's such a good skater... not because he has real offensive skill.

While I don't think Carle is a particularly good PKer per se, he had the best GAON/60 on the PK last year for this club. Coburn, on the other hand, got shredded on the PK last year. Once again this year, Carle has the lowest GAON/60 for the relevant players.... Coburn has improved considerably on that front.

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I think they're pretty much the same deal. Coburn is a bit better defensively, and Carle is better offensively.


I see a world of difference in these two guys although they fill a similar role on seperate pairings. Coburn is bigger, stronger and faster but neither guy could anchor a pair for 20 minutes a night. They have similar shortcomings, but what really does it for me is the muffin that Carle tries to pass off as a legitimate NHL slapshot.

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I see a world of difference in these two guys although they fill a similar role on seperate pairings. Coburn is bigger, stronger and faster but neither guy could anchor a pair for 20 minutes a night. They have similar shortcomings, but what really does it for me is the muffin that Carle tries to pass off as a legitimate NHL slapshot.
He has a good wrister when he uses it, however. He doesn't really like to shoot, so it is what it is.

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