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01-14-2011, 03:59 PM
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Arthur Staples-Rangers are the new Devils

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It was Lamoriello-esque, really. With a couple of exceptions, the Rangers have become what their one-time coach, the quotable Colin Campbell, used to call the Devs during Jersey's heyday: They are pretty much an interchangeable flock of forwards.

There is more talent in certain areas than others. But Tortorella has at least half a dozen guys he could send out as shutdown forwards; he does really only have Marc Staal and Dan Girardi to do that on the back end -- there's no Scott Niedermayer/Brian Rafalski pair to supplement the Scott Stevens/Ken Daneyko duo as the Devils once had. But those Devils were a bit ahead of these Rangers.

This is a young, young group, but how many Ranger fans thought the Mike Sauer/Steve Eminger pair would give up a good scoring chance in the final minutes? Or a mixed and matched forward line with Chris Drury, Artem Anisimov and Derek Stepan?
http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...1?showAll=true

Soupy Campbell made the "interchangeable flock of forwards" comment when Jacques I coached the Devils.

The Devils always had their scouting staff and AHL team pouring out talent. The Rangers relied on the older players and barely had a single player capable of coming up and contributing for them. The roles have been reversed. The Devils are the team full of older and expensive players.

John Tortorella today on the Rangers minor league system

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Tortorella was particularly impressed by a pass that Zuccarello made to Artem Anisimov made to create a scoring chance last night, and in a season that has seen the Rangers bitten hard by the injury bug, the coach gave thanks to the minor league system.

“Each game, (Ryan McDonagh has) been better,” Tortorella said. “The thing I liked about his game last night was he wasn’t timid as far as the neutral zone, as far as his gaps, against a solid hockey club. (Dale Weise has) played, the minutes that he’s gotten, he’s done his job. Zucc is learning the play away from the game – he’s been pretty good there, and has added some offense and forechecking. Last night, he made a great pass to Artie when everyone thought he was gonna shoot. They’ve chipped in and it’s been seamless. A lot of credit goes to the coaching staff and the group down there with our minor league team that when we call these guys up – and there’s been a number this year – they’ve come in and they’ve produced. So that’s good stuff.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ran...-scoring-blues

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http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...1?showAll=true

Soupy Campbell made the "interchangeable flock of forwards" comment when Jacques I coached the Devils.

The Devils always had their scouting staff and AHL team pouring out talent. The Rangers relied on the older players and barely had a single player capable of coming up and contributing for them. The roles have been reversed. The Devils are the team full of older and expensive players.

John Tortorella today on the Rangers minor league system



http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ran...-scoring-blues

Lets Go Rangers
His intentions were good and all...But please Mr Staple. Don't ever refer to the NY Rangers as the NJ Devils again.

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What does this make the Debbies...the new Islanders?

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What does this make the Debbies...the new Islanders?
They are the 98-04 Rangers. A bunch of old guys past their prime that used to be good.

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um, can we win some playoff games first!!!!!

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um, can we win some playoff games first!!!!!
NO! They are the new best team of the decade prior to the lockout. They are the new 3 cup wins, 4 finals appearances, perennial division and conference champions, etc. End of story.

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Rangers are the new Devils


Does that mean we have to smell like Joisey?

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Sorry but our system is nothing like the Devils was.

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They are the 98-04 Rangers. A bunch of old guys past their prime that used to be good.
But unlike those NYR squads, at least the Devs have some good prospects.

Lou Lams could not adjust, and like the Rangers of those years he held onto Vets way too long to get another shot at a title run. But with his team and their record could ya blame them?


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when parise comes back all they really need to do is either fix their d or get a starting goalie. then they can bounce back and become an average team imo. they arent as far away as the rangers were from 98 to 04

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when parise comes back all they really need to do is either fix their d or get a starting goalie. then they can bounce back and become an average team imo. they arent as far away as the rangers were from 98 to 04
Fixing the D is no small task, as we Ranger fans know. Will be interesting to see how the Parise contract talks go.

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when parise comes back all they really need to do is either fix their d or get a starting goalie. then they can bounce back and become an average team imo. they arent as far away as the rangers were from 98 to 04
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Rangers play a high tempo forechecking system. The Devils trapped you to death. I understand the overall logic, but even still. I don't believe the Devils were ever as young as the Rangers are now.

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Let's win like seven division titles and three Cups in the next 15 years first.

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Rangers play a high tempo forechecking system. The Devils trapped you to death. I understand the overall logic, but even still. I don't believe the Devils were ever as young as the Rangers are now.
We have about 14 regulars under 26, that is amazing for any Ranger team.

8 Devs regulars were 26 or under when they took us to 7 game ECF in 1994. Then the next year they won the Cup with 8 regulars under 26 as well. In 2000 they had 10 regulars under 26 and won the Cup.

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We've had mixed success with free agent signings but it's pretty funny that the ONE offseason that the Devils sign some big free agents... An idea completely foreign to that organization... DISASTER.

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When I saw 'Rangers are new Devils' title for a second I thought it might be about trap.

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When I saw 'Rangers are new Devils' title for a second I thought it might be about trap.
That's what I thought at first too. It's sad that so many think that a team that forechecks as much as the Rangers do are a trapping team simply because they backcheck hard and play well in their own zone.

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I'm actually fairly worried about this. Been thinking about it myself even before seeing this that we're the Devils in that in grinding it out every single day, playing playoff hockey everyday, it might wear us down and hurt our chances at a long playoff run. The Devils did win a cup, but that period was more characterized by strong regular seasons coupled with disappointing early exits in the playoffs.

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I'm actually fairly worried about this. Been thinking about it myself even before seeing this that we're the Devils in that in grinding it out every single day, playing playoff hockey everyday, it might wear us down and hurt our chances at a long playoff run. The Devils did win a cup, but that period was more characterized by strong regular seasons coupled with disappointing early exits in the playoffs.
It's hurting us already. Look at our IR

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I don't see how making such a comparison should be taken as a positive when the league has changed so drastically.

It's a lot easier to win with an interchangeable flock of forwards when talent, skill, offense and creativity are stifled as much as they were in the late 90s-early 2000s, when defense and goaltending were the path toward the top.

The rules have changed and the path has changed.

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