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01-16-2011, 11:20 PM
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This is a pretty bold statement for a team outside a playoff spot and 4 pts out of 14 in the conference
Is it just me or is bringing up standings as an Oilers fan just a really bad idea...

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01-16-2011, 11:23 PM
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Is it just me or is bringing up standings as an Oilers fan just a really bad idea...
Oh all us oil fans no where we are I just find a fan of a non playoff team so far saying players would not make their team like they are world beaters full of a stacked roster

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01-16-2011, 11:25 PM
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Oh all us oil fans no where we are I just find a fan of a non playoff team so far saying players would not make their team like they are world beaters full of a stacked roster
Oh I know, but its just opening a door that I rather not see opened

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01-16-2011, 11:51 PM
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Yeah, some great analysis here:

"First, let me start off by saying that I really don’t watch the Kings that much so I haven’t seen Jack Johnson play all that much. My comments here are based purely on a statistical analysis."
That's coincidentally right where I stop reading, laughed, and hit the little red 'x' in the top corner.

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01-16-2011, 11:53 PM
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Calm down bro. Hemsky could benefit playing with the Kings seeing as he has had past chemistry with guys like Smyth and Stoll. Yes, I know you are a Hemsky hater, that means Hemsky is doing a good job.
Brooo, I like Hemsky a lot but we don't need a RW. Penner makes more sense

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01-17-2011, 12:25 AM
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I'd do Hemsky for Schenn straight up. High risk-high reward for both sides. Although I think LA might stay put for the season, they're clearly not contenders for a few more years and trading for Hemsky probably isn't ideal.

As for Penner. I think the Oilers would make a huge mistake trading him. He's durable, a big body, easy to play with and can play 82 games a season in a Top-6 role.

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01-17-2011, 12:29 AM
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Vyacheslav Voynov will become more vital to the Kings organization than JJ.
Based on what? I mean, it's possible, anything is, but JJ just signed a 7 year extension, so something tells me the Kings brass currently thinks JJ is much more vital to their future than Voynov is.

I expect he'll be traded at the deadline personally.

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01-17-2011, 12:32 AM
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LLOLOLOLOL Hey, edmonton fans, answer this for me!

When was the last time Hemsky played 82 games? Quick, quick, quick.. DING DING DING, NEVER!. He's a ****ing band-aid.

When was the last time he had over 25 goals? NEVER! Yet you guys treat him like ****ing Wayne Gretzky.

One of Teubert/Hickey/Voynov, Justin Williams (We'd have too many RW if we didn't trade one of ours away, unless Hemsky can play LW) and 1st or 2nd would be more than enough. Consider yourselves lucky the Kings are even allegedly interested in this scrub.
Next time just save yourself the time and call yourself a dumb*** Hemsky a scrub? Get real. Be serious or don't post.

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01-17-2011, 12:47 AM
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Based on what? I mean, it's possible, anything is, but JJ just signed a 7 year extension, so something tells me the Kings brass currently thinks JJ is much more vital to their future than Voynov is.

I expect he'll be traded at the deadline personally.
I would have JJ on my team over E Johnson to be honest and JJ is nowhere near his peak he is going to be a beast in the League. Down the road I can see Doughty and JJ being the two top dmen in the league on the same team. The kings problem going forward is upfront not the d

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01-17-2011, 01:25 AM
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Oh all us oil fans no where we are I just find a fan of a non playoff team so far saying players would not make their team like they are world beaters full of a stacked roster
Who said the Kings have a stacked roster? Besides Kopi and Brown/Williams the Kings have nothing but average 3rd line players....

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Who said the Kings have a stacked roster? Besides Kopi and Brown/Williams the Kings have nothing but average 3rd line players....
That Smyth guy is on pace for 30g/60p and that Stoll character is another 60pt guy.

I know they aren't flashy, but give them a little credit.

LA has 5 legit 60+pt guys with Kopi being a potential 90pt guy. They aren't doing too bad in their top 6. With Schenn, they could theoretically have 6, 60+pt forwards.

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That Smyth guy is on pace for 30g/60p and that Stoll character is another 60pt guy.

I know they aren't flashy, but give them a little credit.

LA has 5 legit 60+pt guys with Kopi being a potential 90pt guy. They aren't doing too bad in their top 6. With Schenn, they could theoretically have 6, 60+pt forwards.
Smyth is more or less a PP specialist lately and Stoll can't produce anything 5on5 without Williams....he is the catalyst for the 2nd line without a doubt.

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That statement is as ignorant as "Hemsky isn't worth too much because he is always injured. I mean he has missed 100 games in the past four years and hasn't played a complete season once in his 8 year NHL career".
It's all about talent buddy.

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Voynov leads the AHL in scoring and is a very solid D man. Muzzin has already proven himself to be a very good pmd who is also NHL ready. Forbort, Toffoli, Weal, Kozun, Hickey Tuebert, Loktionov, Vey along with Clifford are all more than average nhl prospects.
I agree with what your saying thats why I question a 7 year contract for such a young defenceman in JJ, Doughy better be making over 5 mill a season his next contract then.

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Based on what? I mean, it's possible, anything is, but JJ just signed a 7 year extension, so something tells me the Kings brass currently thinks JJ is much more vital to their future than Voynov is.

I expect he'll be traded at the deadline personally.
Awesome, Teubert and Voynov should get shipped to Edmonton then.

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01-17-2011, 04:22 AM
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Smyth is more or less a PP specialist lately and Stoll can't produce anything 5on5 without Williams....he is the catalyst for the 2nd line without a doubt.
Regardless of how they get their points...they get them, and they do the job that they are paid to do. Unless you can find somebody else on the roster to stand in front of the net like Smyth does. As far as PP points...just be glad we're getting them right now.

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It's all about talent buddy.



I agree with what your saying thats why I question a 7 year contract for such a young defenceman in JJ, Doughy better be making over 5 mill a season his next contract then.
Depends how Doughty wraps up the season. He picked a bad year to get cold...as for Johnson. He is as loyal as a player gets. He even said he would have went for a longer deal. If you know anything about JJ, you know of his loyalty and dedication. That's why management did what they did. If any player on LA is committed to becoming a better player, hands down it is without a doubt Johnson. If I were GM, he would be the first guy I would trust to give a contract to given his work ethic, then Brown, then Kopi, then the rest fall in line.

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I'd like Stoll and one of your defensive prospects and a pick.

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I'd like Stoll and one of your defensive prospects and a pick.
This is more realistic but then the Kings have a problem at center, unless you guys are willing to give up Cogliano or something, which I doubt. Change Stoll to Williams

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Next time just save yourself the time and call yourself a dumb*** Hemsky a scrub? Get real. Be serious or don't post.
Lmao ok there hero, you think Ales Hemsky for Brayden Schenn makes sense? You really think that trade would go down? Be serious or don't post.

Hemsky's isn't a scrub, I definitely misused that word but he's not God either and reading the Edmonton fans here, they think he's the second coming of Wayne Gretzky, cmon son

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This is more realistic but then the Kings have a problem at center, unless you guys are willing to give up Cogliano or something, which I doubt. Change Stoll to Williams
If we were to get Stoll Cogs would be expendable. He's already talked about being expendable although his role has changed and has become more valuable to the team.

I personally want Stoll back because he would not only bring the faceoffs, defesnive game and 40ish points, he would also although us to go change our PP up. He'd be able to go to the point, he has the shot to do it.

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Lmao ok there hero, you think Ales Hemsky for Brayden Schenn makes sense? You really think that trade would go down? Be serious or don't post.

Hemsky's isn't a scrub, I definitely misused that word but he's not God either and reading the Edmonton fans here, they think he's the second coming of Wayne Gretzky, cmon son
Exaggeration makes you sound kind of....dumb. First, I don't see anyone saying anything that makes me think "Hemsky is Gretzky". The fact is though, that Hemsky is one of the best playmakers in the NHL, and Schenn is a prospect who has never played. The deal won't get done, because Edmonton probably would want a roster player and a prospect, and Lombardi won't do Schenn + for Hemsky. But, Hemsky does have a lot of value, enough that a Voynov/Muzzin/1st round pick package for Hemsky and a 2nd is not out of the question in terms of value.

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Hemsky for Schenn + Teubert

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It's all about talent buddy.



I agree with what your saying thats why I question a 7 year contract for such a young defenceman in JJ, Doughy better be making over 5 mill a season his next contract then.
So because Voynov is among the league leaders at the AHL level for scoring among defensemen its bad to sign JJ to a 7 year contract? Go take a look at the stats of the top scoring defenseman in the AHL the last 5 years and tell me how many of those guys are currently doing anything at the NHL level. JJ is getting it done at the NHL level and improving every year. You sign guys like that to 7 year deals especially when they are a building block of the team.

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Awesome, Teubert and Voynov should get shipped to Edmonton then.
Sure, when you send back hemsky.

Just because LA I think will trade Voynov doesn't mean you guys are getting him.

I hope we don't trade with Edmonton to be honest unless it is for Hemsky. I just don't like penner and other than him, I don't think Edmonton has a single player who would add a significant scoring punch to our team that Edmonton would be willing to trade.

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Lmao ok there hero, you think Ales Hemsky for Brayden Schenn makes sense? You really think that trade would go down? Be serious or don't post.

Hemsky's isn't a scrub, I definitely misused that word but he's not God either and reading the Edmonton fans here, they think he's the second coming of Wayne Gretzky, cmon son
I wasn't replying to you about Schen and Hemsky going down. I was replying to you calling Hemsky a scrub. I have no comment, nor made any comment that Schenn for Hemsky would, could or should go down.

Read before replying. It's what serious posters do. I'm glad at least you can understand Hemsky isn't a scrub. He's no Gretzky either, I 100 per cent agree, but give a guy props, especially one who has had to go through playing on some bad teams the last few seasons and never had a legitimate set up man or true first line player to play with for the vast majority of his NHL career.

Put Hemsky in LA and he gets 30+ goals and 85-95 points a season I'd expect with Kopitar. If there's a guy in the league who deserves to show what he can do with real top line players to play with, it's Hemsky.

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