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01-17-2011, 12:22 PM
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all contracts get pro-rated. it's how it works
In Jan? lol

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01-17-2011, 12:23 PM
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EXACTLY.......name ONE Leaf goalie that left the Leafs and got better....Besides Parent lol
Clemmenson had a hell of a break-thru season the year after he was with the Leafs. Got a great contract from Florida and has reverted to playing average again.

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Giguere's career is in jeopardy at this point.

I don't see him being traded.

But i do see him signing somewhere else for a bargain next season. Ala Turco.

My money is on Detroit making him a reclaimation project after Howard tanks horribly in the playoffs this season.

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01-17-2011, 12:24 PM
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Based on what because he had 2 good playoff seasons behind strong teams? If any goalie goes ona heater they can be good.

He is not better option. Screw that.

O yes. He is in talks.. Might be? Sound slike he will be signed. lol

http://www.tsn.ca/story/?id=349233

might be, meaning I would assume if he signed with Florida than he is off the trade market. But they can't come to terms, than I would assume they would look to move him. Which makes sense that Florida would talk to him now, than they are able to decide how to move forward.

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01-17-2011, 12:24 PM
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He has an under .900 save %. No contending team will pick him up imo.

He knows with the Leafs having so many good young goalies he won't be re-signed next season by the team.

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01-17-2011, 12:26 PM
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No. The hit for the remainder of his contract is based on how much time is left (not much).



Maybe he just wants to win. Or just wants to be in the playoffs. Or to play for someone other than Wilson. Or to set the table for a July signing with a team that has a good future.
Not much? Half a season right now so that is a 3 mill camp hit and he's getting paid something like 7 so you are paying him 3.5 cash and a 3 mill camp hit. At this point JSG is really in no position to pick and choose his destination after e becomes a FA. If he did get dealt I doubt if you'd be getting much coming back for a really high cap hit rental.

His value could rise if there is a bad tender injury for a contending team. In any case this is a classic case where Burke comes out and shoots the rumour down in a most truculent manner.

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01-17-2011, 12:26 PM
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You guys are going to feel like mighty large 'tards when Giguere lands his next starting job. When will you ever learn to not bet against professional athletes, especially the humble, accomplished and resilient variety?
He hasn't played 60 games in a season since the lock-out. And only twice in his career. Numbers have gotten worse every year and gets injured a lot now. He's been sidelined with groin injuries 6 or 7 times since the Leafs acquired him... He'll be 34 by the time the playoffs are in full swing...

I'd definitely take that bet...

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01-17-2011, 12:27 PM
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I'm reading a lot about how Giguere has not played well this season.

Giguere has played in 18 games this year.

First 9 games: 4-3-2, 2.31 GAA, .910%
Last 9 games: 4-4-1, 3.10 GAA, .891%

In his last 4 games: 2-1-1,. 1.88 GAA, .933%.

In his total of 33GP with the Leafs: 14-14-5, 2.59 GAA, .907 %

He has been battling injury recently, but his season was actually off to a great start.
Overall, he has a winning record (8-7-3) and a 2.69 GAA this season on one of the league's worst teams.

If you look at the stats, combined with the fact that the man has been to the Cup Final twice and has a ring to show for it, and that his contract comes off the books at the end of season...You may be surprised of the demand for Giguere. All it takes is two teams that both decide they really want him in order to fetch a high price.

Dwayne Roloson fetched a 22 year old 2006 first round pick. Roloson has comparable numbers, a losing record, is 41 years old, and has played 22 less playoff games than Giguere.

The only key in all this is Giguere's willingness to waive.

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01-17-2011, 12:29 PM
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This may throw teams off a bit...

2011/01/13 Missed 11 games (groin).
2010/12/26 Groin, injured reserve.
2010/12/17 Groin, day-to-day.
2010/12/08 Missed 1 game (groin).
2010/12/06 Groin, day-to-day.
2010/12/02 Missed 6 games (groin).
2010/11/17 Groin, day-to-day.
2010/01/31 Acquired from the Anaheim Ducks.
2009/11/11 Missed 6 games (groin).
2009/10/26 Groin, sidelined indefinitely.

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01-17-2011, 12:31 PM
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In Jan? lol
are u dense?

when a player get's traded mid-season, no matter what month, the contract is pro-rated. The team that trades the player is still responsible for the cap hit until the day he was traded. The other team is responsible for the rest of the cap hit. That's why certain teams have to wait before making trades for certain players to make sure enough $ is transferred over in the ledger.

go to the capgeek website if you still can't grasp the concept

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I'm reading a lot about how Giguere has not played well this season.

Giguere has played in 18 games this year.

First 9 games: 4-3-2, 2.31 GAA, .910%
Last 9 games: 4-4-1, 3.10 GAA, .891%

In his last 4 games: 2-1-1,. 1.88 GAA, .933%.

In his total of 33GP with the Leafs: 14-14-5, 2.59 GAA, .907 %

He has been battling injury recently, but his season was actually off to a great start.
Overall, he has a winning record (8-7-3) and a 2.69 GAA this season on one of the league's worst teams.

If you look at the stats, combined with the fact that the man has been to the Cup Final twice and has a ring to show for it, and that his contract comes off the books at the end of season...You may be surprised of the demand for Giguere. All it takes is two teams that both decide they really want him in order to fetch a high price.

Dwayne Roloson fetched a 22 year old 2006 first round pick. Roloson has comparable numbers, a losing record, is 41 years old, and has played 22 less playoff games than Giguere.

The only key in all this is Giguere's willingness to waive.
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01-17-2011, 12:32 PM
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JS Giguere + Tomas Kaberle

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Jeff Carter

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Possibly NYI or Wild? I don't know how long their goalies are injured for but I can't really think of anyone who is in dire need of netminding off the top of my head.
Islanders doing something to improve their team? Why aren't you performing standup on Comedy Central?

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01-17-2011, 12:36 PM
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Bryzgalov is set to be UFA in Phoenix. If they are even thinking about not re-signing him, then they will be in the hunt for Giguere. The reason being that if they don't have Bryzgalov next year, this is their last chance to make a go in the playoffs.

Their veterans are getting there in age...Doan (34), Whitney (38), Aucoin (37), Jovanovski (34).

Jovanovski, Vrbata, Upshall, Fiddler and Belanger are all UFA at end of season.

If you're wondering if these are valuable pieces to the team...Here is the forward scoring for Phoenix:

Whitney 33pts
Doan 30pts
Vrbata 25pts
Kopikoski 23pts
Upshall 22pts
Stempniak 21pts
Belanger 20pts

Giguere would be a relatively cheap insurance if Bryzgalov goes down in the playoffs if Phoenix wants to make a very serious push.

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01-17-2011, 12:41 PM
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if Giggy were traded today his cap hit would be exactly: $2,677,419

around the deadline should be approx. $1.4 mil

EDIT: exact cap hit @ deadline is $1,322,583

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Bryzgalov is set to be UFA in Phoenix. If they are even thinking about not re-signing him, then they will be in the hunt for Giguere. The reason being that if they don't have Bryzgalov next year, this is their last chance to make a go in the playoffs.

Their veterans are getting there in age...Doan (34), Whitney (38), Aucoin (37), Jovanovski (34).

Jovanovski, Vrbata, Upshall, Fiddler and Belanger are all UFA at end of season.

If you're wondering if these are valuable pieces to the team...Here is the forward scoring for Phoenix:

Whitney 33pts
Doan 30pts
Vrbata 25pts
Kopikoski 23pts
Upshall 22pts
Stempniak 21pts
Belanger 20pts

Giguere would be a relatively cheap insurance if Bryzgalov goes down in the playoffs if Phoenix wants to make a very serious push.
Your reasons above make sense for why Phoenix should trade for Giggy this year but it won't happen because of the financial situation they're in.

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Everyone says the Caps need a goalie. Varlamov and Neuvirth are good.

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Everyone says the Caps need a goalie. Varlamov and Neuvirth are good.
I know, their stats are actually pretty solid. The problem has been in front of them

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01-17-2011, 01:48 PM
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Giguere is useless. No team wants him.

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I'm reading a lot about how Giguere has not played well this season.

Giguere has played in 18 games this year.

First 9 games: 4-3-2, 2.31 GAA, .910%
Last 9 games: 4-4-1, 3.10 GAA, .891%

In his last 4 games: 2-1-1,. 1.88 GAA, .933%.

In his total of 33GP with the Leafs: 14-14-5, 2.59 GAA, .907 %

He has been battling injury recently, but his season was actually off to a great start.
Overall, he has a winning record (8-7-3) and a 2.69 GAA this season on one of the league's worst teams.

If you look at the stats, combined with the fact that the man has been to the Cup Final twice and has a ring to show for it, and that his contract comes off the books at the end of season...You may be surprised of the demand for Giguere. All it takes is two teams that both decide they really want him in order to fetch a high price.

Dwayne Roloson fetched a 22 year old 2006 first round pick. Roloson has comparable numbers, a losing record, is 41 years old, and has played 22 less playoff games than Giguere.

The only key in all this is Giguere's willingness to waive.
Coming from a westcoast leaf nation "outsider", I'm of the opinion that Giguere is still for real. I think things would certainly improve if he was playing for a winning team, too. A lot easier to get into the game mentally. I can't see Carolina going for him for reasons mentioned, but I'm sure there would be teams around the league kicking the tires a bit to see what the pricetag is. Groin issues would certainly be a concern, sure. But at a pro-rated hit, with an expiring contract, and a guy with a good resume and playing for a contract next year, it seems like a good option for quite a few clubs.

Yes - including Philly. These posts from this 'Kaktus' character are a trip.

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Giguere is useless. No team wants him.
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idk what washington is up to lately but it seems like he could help them. prolly for like a 2 or 3rd round pick

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I don't see Giguere reverting to his 07 form, but its a low risk move to acquire him that could potentially pay off. If I'm a team like the Flyers or Washington I would easily take him for a low round pick. Not aying he would necessarily start but I wouldn't mind having a Conn Smythe winning goalie ready to come in.

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are u dense?

when a player get's traded mid-season, no matter what month, the contract is pro-rated. The team that trades the player is still responsible for the cap hit until the day he was traded. The other team is responsible for the rest of the cap hit. That's why certain teams have to wait before making trades for certain players to make sure enough $ is transferred over in the ledger.

go to the capgeek website if you still can't grasp the concept
Speaking of capgeek, how much cap space Flyers have? and you calling me dense?

No freaking interest even for half of his price. ZERO. Get lost


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I don't see Giguere reverting to his 07 form, but its a low risk move to acquire him that could potentially pay off. If I'm a team like the Flyers or Washington I would easily take him for a low round pick. Not aying he would necessarily start but I wouldn't mind having a Conn Smythe winning goalie ready to come in.
He won't waive his NTC to be a backup. He'd be better off as Toronto's starter through April 9. It's all about showcasing himself as a starter.

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