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01-18-2011, 10:35 AM
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01-18-2011, 10:53 AM
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Magnus Pajarvi. Just say the three letters and you get his name, lol.

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01-18-2011, 01:41 PM
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Seabrook is a great number two guy to a number 1 PMD. Edmonton should seriously consider taking a run at him to play with Whitney.

Something like:

To Edmonton - Seabrook
To Nashville - Magnus Paarjavi
To Chicago - Cody Franson, Nashville's 2nd in 2011, Chicago's choice of Gilbert Brule or Andrew Cogliano, Anton Lander

Edmonton gets the defesenman they need to build their defense around (along with Whitney) and build their top pairing with. Logically Edmonton can replace the loss of Magnus Paarjavi with what will likely be a high pick in the draft again. They also can afford to lose him with a plethora of talented wingers.

Nashville gets a much needed blue chipper winger who can help improve their scoring (hopefully) and hopefully persuade Weber they are making moves to improve the teams weaknesses.. They can afford to part with Franson because a well documented knack for developing quality defenseman. The 2nd is expendable because they also own NJ's 2nd rounder which will in all likelihood be the 31st, 32nd or 33rd overall pick.

Chicago gets a cheap solid top 4 potential laden defenseman in Franson, a mid level 2nd rounder, a solid third liner in Brule or Cogliano and a nice prospect in Lander. Losing Seabrook would hurt but they would get cheaper on the backend and add to an ever grwoing list of prospects and picks, all of which could be used in trades for other impact players.

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01-18-2011, 01:44 PM
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Hawks don't want picks or prospects. Maybe if it was multiple NHL ready blue chippers, like say MPS and Colin Wilson, we may have something. Otherwise, premier player+ is the return for Seabrook.

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01-18-2011, 01:49 PM
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Count me among those who can't see Seabrook being traded, as he's too valuable to what the Hawks do defensively alongside Keith. However, IF Chicago trades him they would need to receive in return:
(1) a 2nd line center who's a plus faceoff guy and solid on the PK, and
(2) a 2nd pairing type D-man, or at least an above average #5 who could realistically develop into a solid top-4 player in the near future. Again, PK ability is a plus here. Physical, stay-at-home defenders would be preferred to PMD, as most Hawks prospects are of the puck-moving variety.

Throw in draft picks/prospects either way to even the deal, and keep in mind the combined cap hit of players coming to Chicago needs to be limited ($4-5M max). Western conference teams would have to add, of course, as it's always preferable to trade out of the conference if possible.

Whether Seabrook is worth the overpayment it would take to acquire him is up for debate. That's always the case when a team doesn't really need to deal a good player. Even with the above players coming back, such a trade probably weakens Chicago, which is why it's unlikely to happen IMO.
Ideally they keep him...but if they are worried after this year of having a cap friendly team....they have room for him...but will be like Pitts spending draft picks at the deadline to shore up either offence or defence every trade deadline.This is more a move for next year.....put feelers out there...so if they are just out of playoffs or a bubble team then they may pull it for the right offer(going forward).....wouldnt surprise me to see him traded at the draft to move up/aquire players they need

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01-18-2011, 11:22 PM
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Brent Seabrook would be a solid piece to add to our mediocre (I'm being generous with the word mediocre here) blueline. If we can draft Larsson, our blueline would be sick in the next 2 or 3 years if a couple of our prospects can pan out....

Volchenkov-Larsson
Urbom-Seabrook
Merrill-Gelinas


I have no idea what the Hawks would want in return but a move like this would turn this franchise around in a heartbeat.
Damn. I was impressed with what I saw from Merrill at the WJC and I was jealous to find that NJ had drafted him. Damn. That would be great for NJ.

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01-19-2011, 01:55 AM
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Bailey, Moulson, 2nd

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01-19-2011, 02:45 AM
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we would need a D-Men in Return instead of Moulson. You have none of interest (that could fill the hole in the Top4 after Seabrook is gone).

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01-19-2011, 03:58 PM
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How about something like this:

To Chicago: Braydon Coburn, Andreas Nodl, Nik Zherdev, Philadelphia 1st in 2011

To Philadelphia: Brent Seabrook, Patrick Sharp, Chicago 2nd in 2011

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01-19-2011, 04:05 PM
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How about something like this:

To Chicago: Braydon Coburn, Andreas Nodl, Nik Zherdev, Philadelphia 1st in 2011

To Philadelphia: Brent Seabrook, Patrick Sharp, Chicago 2nd in 2011


Hawks give up 2 best players and get a bottom 6 winger and a late 1st or it?

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01-19-2011, 04:08 PM
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How about something like this:

To Chicago: Braydon Coburn, Andreas Nodl, Nik Zherdev, Philadelphia 1st in 2011

To Philadelphia: Brent Seabrook, Patrick Sharp, Chicago 2nd in 2011
Sharp isn't going anywhere- especially for that kind of return. The 'Hawks turned down a possible Kovalchuk (a 40 goal scorer last season) acquisition last year simply because Atlanta wanted Sharp.

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